The Nondual Jackass

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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> The Nondual Jackass

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> The nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties to attract during nondual

discussions the attention of other visitors and to become the center of

attention.

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> The nondual Jackass constantly denies with his philosophy the reality of the

human condtidion and is blind to it:

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> We are conditioned beings, genetical, soziological and psychological.

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> Each of those conditionings is so effective and deeply rooted that no nondual

philosophy and argumentation can touch it. These conditions will resist all of

those nondual arguments and won't leave or change even a bit.

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> Undoubtedly, as already mentioned, nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail

parties and I don't deny its value for such occations.

>

> Werner

 

 

 

Interesting, Werner

 

Now take Krishnamurti and his talking of our being conditioned.

 

What is that conditioning? It is the past. Not? Seeing this is

being free from it.

 

When there is that freedom from conditioning there is but one.

That is non-duality for you. One is the observed. The observer

is absent in free-dom, absent in peace, absent in love, absent

in beauty.

 

The observer, this is the [child of] conditioning is the flaw

or stain to one - duh filth if ya will.

 

Where there is no flaw, stain, condition = no observer, there

is no longer two in the play - only one: the observed. One is

- always - flawless. One is un-condition-al.

 

All it takes for this one-ness to be -- is the absence of the

observer.

 

JK was a non dualist although he spoke of the pins and needles

of the spinning wheels, that are our conditioning and how this

spin destroys the joy of being nothing - being noone - the joy

of non-existance as in the painful knowing, that one is. It IS

painful, that knowing - and completely useless too.

 

I would often wonder why it is that some people cling to their

conditioning although they are aware that it's the passé, like

it were a holy shrine or something. Are they not aware that it

is false? Have they not experienced the joy of being, which is

in the seeing, that it is false? Or do they feel doomed? What?

 

Ah! They most likely just need something to cling on to and

since the world is totally unreliable they cling to themselves

(conditioning: the me's and the you's, the me's and the that's

= duality).

 

But -why cling to anything at all? So much pain in clinging to

what is not even for real.

 

-Lene