Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > your thoughtful post deserves a thoughtful response but i just can't come up with one. i'm not joking. let me try tomorrow since i should be at work now. > > hur Hur: lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. soon have no majority to worry about. maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. and true enough it stinks.. it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. this is a great list..warts and all. all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... " How much discomfort is okay? " ... " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. designed to make you question your own established creation. this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. have control freak programs.. which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. if this House of Niz. changes.. into another Mutual Admiration Society... where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. and everyone just compliments one another.. where no one has single independent or creative thought.. but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... well sir..i'm gone. this isn't a threat.. fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. already established and being employed here.. i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. no problem.. no hard feelings.. no sad goodbyes. ..b b.b. ******************************nnb************************************* > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Hur - > > > > Your idea of a poll is not a good one as far as I'm concerned. > > > > As moderator, your vision of the list is the determining factor. > > > > The buck can't be passed. > > > > There is nothing particularly wise about a majority. > > > > Mob rule involves a majority opinion. > > > > What is your vision, Hur? > > > > Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? > > > > Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? > > > > Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? > > > > How much discomfort is okay? > > > > Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? > > > > I suppose it's up to you if you want to answer any of these questions, or if you want to make your vision for this list more explicit ... > > > > However, if you leave decisions up to polls, the list just becomes whatever the majority wants it to be. > > > > Of course, this is how the great American political system works - and look how much understanding that has led to ... > > > > Smiles, > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > Bob presents an interesting dilemma for this list. Occasionally i get complaints about him and sometimes change his status to moderated which creates more work for me. Since I'm undecided on this issue, I started a new poll about " what to do with Bob " which the members can vote to voice their opinons. This somehow reminds me of the movie " what about Bob. " > > > > > > Nisargadatta/surveys?id=2937657 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > Hur: > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > and true enough it stinks.. > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > have control freak programs.. > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > well sir..i'm gone. > > this isn't a threat.. > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > already established and being employed here.. > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > no problem.. > > no hard feelings.. > > no sad goodbyes. > > .b b.b. Bob - I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Hur: > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > no problem.. > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > .b b.b. > > Bob - > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > - Dan - i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. i don't care either way. i smell what i smell. i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. i too am not trying to decide for him. and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. it reflects your personal agenda period. he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. in a direction that started giving rise to.. concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. not for me. that simple. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Bob - > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > - Dan - > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > i don't care either way. > > i smell what i smell. > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > not for me. > > that simple. > > .b b.b. Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. Seems like that's what an open list is for. Part of that dynamic you say you like. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > > > i don't care either way. > > > > i smell what i smell. > > > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > > > not for me. > > > > that simple. > > > > .b b.b. > > Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. > > Seems like that's what an open list is for. > > Part of that dynamic you say you like. > > > - Dan - > " i smell what i smell. " No concerns, Dabbo... he smells only his own armpits ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > > > i don't care either way. > > > > i smell what i smell. > > > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > > > not for me. > > > > that simple. > > > > .b b.b. > > Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. > > Seems like that's what an open list is for. > > Part of that dynamic you say you like. > > > - Dan - absolutely nothing " wrong " with you contributing your two cents. that attitude that it's either right or wrong.... that's exactly the kind of thing that for me is so disgusting. this right/wrong dichotomy.. that you believe must adhere to or within everything... is moralistic and judgmental crap. there is nothing right nor wrong. however there are motives behind attitudes and " contributions " . everyone's...mine as well. and without saying that it's right or wrong.. i can still say that i don't like your motives.. nor your method of conniving in such an obvious way.. as to how you plan those motives to act in affecting others.. in order to bringabout your desired outcome. in short i think you are a phony about what you do and why you do it. i try as best as possible to be right up front. i am often an asshole because i will not compromise nor hide.. what i feel is the truth of any matter. you don't... or won't... do that..be straight..period. i don't like that NOT because it's wrong.. but because i find that to be creepy behavior. it IS an open list..i DO like that. and as i have said as far as i'm concerned you can do what you want.. as i can do as i want. and if i want to say that i find your modus operandi.. as well as most of your motives and mind farts.. a little revolting or obsequious and ill thought in form and content.. i should be allowed to express that as you are allowed to express.. what it is that i find to be that way. capisce? well frankly it doesn't matter. like it or not.. without being right or wrong.. that's that. ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > > > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > > > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > > > > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > > > > > i don't care either way. > > > > > > i smell what i smell. > > > > > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > > > > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > > > > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > > > > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > > > > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > > > > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > > > > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > > > > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > > > > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > > > > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > > > > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > > > > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > > > > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > > > > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > > > > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > > > > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > > > > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > > > > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > > > > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > > > > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > > > > > not for me. > > > > > > that simple. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. > > > > Seems like that's what an open list is for. > > > > Part of that dynamic you say you like. > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > " i smell what i smell. " > > No concerns, Dabbo... he smells only his own armpits ;-). dabbo's my armpit? you're some goddamn friend you are timmy. glad i'm not a friend of yours. what do you call your best mate? crotch rot? ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > > > > > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > > > > > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > > > > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > > > > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > > > > > > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > > > > > > > i don't care either way. > > > > > > > > i smell what i smell. > > > > > > > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > > > > > > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > > > > > > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > > > > > > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > > > > > > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > > > > > > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > > > > > > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > > > > > > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > > > > > > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > > > > > > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > > > > > > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > > > > > > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > > > > > > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > > > > > > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > > > > > > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > > > > > > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > > > > > > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > > > > > > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > > > > > > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > > > > > > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > > > > > > > not for me. > > > > > > > > that simple. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. > > > > > > Seems like that's what an open list is for. > > > > > > Part of that dynamic you say you like. > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > " i smell what i smell. " > > > > No concerns, Dabbo... he smells only his own armpits ;-). > > > dabbo's my armpit? > > you're some goddamn friend you are timmy. " Timmy " is the smell of Dabbo's arm pit. *sniff sniff*, goes the reader of this message, Who sits alone, Imagining others. Cheers from me, to me! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > > > > > > > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > > > > > > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > > > > > > > > > i don't care either way. > > > > > > > > > > i smell what i smell. > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > > > > > > > > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > > > > > > > > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > > > > > > > > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > > > > > > > > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > > > > > > > > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > > > > > > > > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > > > > > > > > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > > > > > > > > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > > > > > > > > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > > > > > > > > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > > > > > > > > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > > > > > > > > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > > > > > > > > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > > > > > > > > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > > > > > > > > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > > > > > > > > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > > > > > > > > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > > > > > > > > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > > > > > > > > > not for me. > > > > > > > > > > that simple. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. > > > > > > > > Seems like that's what an open list is for. > > > > > > > > Part of that dynamic you say you like. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > " i smell what i smell. " > > > > > > No concerns, Dabbo... he smells only his own armpits ;-). > > > > > > dabbo's my armpit? > > > > you're some goddamn friend you are timmy. > > " Timmy " is the smell of Dabbo's arm pit. > > *sniff sniff*, goes the reader of this message, > > Who sits alone, > > Imagining others. > > Cheers from me, to me! ;-) > P.S. nobody's your friend, Babbo... you're alone. Completely alone. Sitting here, right now, reading this, imagining, pretending, wishing. Fakir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > > > > > > > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > > > > > > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > > > > > > > > > i don't care either way. > > > > > > > > > > i smell what i smell. > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > > > > > > > > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > > > > > > > > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > > > > > > > > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > > > > > > > > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > > > > > > > > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > > > > > > > > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > > > > > > > > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > > > > > > > > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > > > > > > > > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > > > > > > > > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > > > > > > > > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > > > > > > > > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > > > > > > > > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > > > > > > > > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > > > > > > > > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > > > > > > > > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > > > > > > > > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > > > > > > > > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > > > > > > > > > not for me. > > > > > > > > > > that simple. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. > > > > > > > > Seems like that's what an open list is for. > > > > > > > > Part of that dynamic you say you like. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > " i smell what i smell. " > > > > > > No concerns, Dabbo... he smells only his own armpits ;-). > > > > > > dabbo's my armpit? > > > > you're some goddamn friend you are timmy. > > " Timmy " is the smell of Dabbo's arm pit. > > *sniff sniff*, goes the reader of this message, > > Who sits alone, > > Imagining others. > > Cheers from me, to me! ;-) you fall back on very poor ratiocination.. every time you get caught with your ass in a sling... caused by your own misspoken words. doesn't work kid. it just gets you more wound up. and sounding even more like a fool. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't care either way. > > > > > > > > > > > > i smell what i smell. > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > > > > > > > > > > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > > > > > > > > > > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > > > > > > > > > > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > > > > > > > > > > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > > > > > > > > > > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > > > > > > > > > > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > > > > > > > > > > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > > > > > > > > > > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > > > > > > > > > > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > > > > > > > > > > > not for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > that simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. > > > > > > > > > > Seems like that's what an open list is for. > > > > > > > > > > Part of that dynamic you say you like. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i smell what i smell. " > > > > > > > > No concerns, Dabbo... he smells only his own armpits ;-). > > > > > > > > > dabbo's my armpit? > > > > > > you're some goddamn friend you are timmy. > > > > " Timmy " is the smell of Dabbo's arm pit. > > > > *sniff sniff*, goes the reader of this message, > > > > Who sits alone, > > > > Imagining others. > > > > Cheers from me, to me! ;-) > > > you fall back on very poor ratiocination.. > > every time you get caught with your ass in a sling... > > caused by your own misspoken words. > > doesn't work kid. That's right, Babbo. As the one sitting alone, reading this, imaging others, talks to himself imaginarily through others. It doesn't work, me, this reader. Woo! An instant of sense got through! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't care either way. > > > > > > > > > > > > i smell what i smell. > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > > > > > > > > > > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > > > > > > > > > > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > > > > > > > > > > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > > > > > > > > > > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > > > > > > > > > > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > > > > > > > > > > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > > > > > > > > > > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > > > > > > > > > > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > > > > > > > > > > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > > > > > > > > > > > not for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > that simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. > > > > > > > > > > Seems like that's what an open list is for. > > > > > > > > > > Part of that dynamic you say you like. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i smell what i smell. " > > > > > > > > No concerns, Dabbo... he smells only his own armpits ;-). > > > > > > > > > dabbo's my armpit? > > > > > > you're some goddamn friend you are timmy. > > > > " Timmy " is the smell of Dabbo's arm pit. > > > > *sniff sniff*, goes the reader of this message, > > > > Who sits alone, > > > > Imagining others. > > > > Cheers from me, to me! ;-) > > > > P.S. nobody's your friend, Babbo... you're alone. > > Completely alone. > > Sitting here, right now, reading this, imagining, pretending, wishing. > > Fakir. ROFLMAO! i'm pissing my pants at your p.s.ing me.. because you forgot to say something.. and you wanted me to know that you had something additional to add. that i couldn't remember i needed to say to myself before. whoooo boy! you are sick timmy. if i was as lonely as you evidently are son.. i'd add things to what i said.. was someone else talking to themselves too. i guess for sorry ass losers like you this is sort of company huh? i'm there for you boy..even though i'm here by myself. LOL! PLEASE keep this up timmy. it's punch-drunk slaphappy and stupid. lot'o'laughs kidddo. thanx. have another slurp of that Colt '45 buckaroo rummy. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lists that are NOT about what the majority wants.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon have no majority to worry about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe dabbo doesn't like the American political system.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and true enough it stinks.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's the worst one on earth except for all the rest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visions and Perfections are the stuff of fools dreams... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and would be gurus with nothing but self interest in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a great list..warts and all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all of that " encounter group " hocus-pocus about: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you have or want rules to govern discourse here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want an open forum where minority voices are heard? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you want the majority to feel comfortable here? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How much discomfort is okay? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Does understanding involve acceptance of discomfort? " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is nothing more than a bunch of smarmy and silly nonsense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > designed to make you question your own established creation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the most free and least undermined groups on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarlo..Jerry..and a host of others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have control freak programs.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which often enough become controlled by their favored pets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if that is what you should decide to do with your list here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to conduct any further polls regarding allowing me to stay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if this House of Niz. changes.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into another Mutual Admiration Society... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where everyone fawns over everyone who agrees.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and everyone just compliments one another.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where no one has single independent or creative thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but who ooh and ahh every time some dufus rephrases some old.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-duality or zen like " gee that's cool " bunch of words... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well sir..i'm gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this isn't a threat.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact is you probably would consider it a blessing if i left. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you have said it would cause you less grief and far less work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my leaving if you have this group emulate those others referred to.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is merely because i wouldn't see the point anymore in staying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the fun and actual fresh discovery for me would be gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll know by your reply to dabbo what it is you plan to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " unsubbing " ..nor moderating will be necessary.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should you agree with his incredibly small minded.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and unthought-out notion of what a group is all about.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and should you decide to abandon what i see as the " best " policies.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already established and being employed here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i will simply and most definitely and completely disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no problem.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no hard feelings.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no sad goodbyes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not invested in you leaving or staying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The questions I put out there don't tell Hur what to do or how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I simply voiced the questions I heard already going on, that led to the creation of a poll. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I don't think a poll is the best way to answer them, that's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever the answer - it's Hur's group, Hur's vision, and not for me to say. I'd be interested if he wants to articulate it - I'm not sure he has before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I agree with what you say about groups where everyone starts agreeing with the preconceived notions of everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not interested in what you are or are not interested in dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pardon me if i don't buy this bullshit dabbo...or don't pardon me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't care either way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i smell what i smell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say nor think that you would tell Hur how to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nor do i believe that he would listen to you anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i too am not trying to decide for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and i don't try and act like an EST trainer asking bullshit questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's true it's Hur's group and vision.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought he already was doing pretty damn good without your input. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AND i think by his doing what he already has been doing.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's done a damn good job of " articulating " his " vision " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and allowing for a high powered self propelling group dynamic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your advice to Hur was neither needed nor requested... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regardless of how important you may feel it is for him to ponder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it reflects your personal agenda period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's very gracious and has taken it into consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i disagree with most of your insipid notions.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and i was just saying that should the group start moving.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a direction that started giving rise to.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concerning itself with the considerations such as you have outlined.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that i wanted no part of it and would gladly and quickly depart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it would start laying itself open to moral judgments.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and moot notions of right and wrong and propriety and preaching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure what the objection is to me contributing my two cents. > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems like that's what an open list is for. > > > > > > > > > > > > Part of that dynamic you say you like. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i smell what i smell. " > > > > > > > > > > No concerns, Dabbo... he smells only his own armpits ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > dabbo's my armpit? > > > > > > > > you're some goddamn friend you are timmy. > > > > > > " Timmy " is the smell of Dabbo's arm pit. > > > > > > *sniff sniff*, goes the reader of this message, > > > > > > Who sits alone, > > > > > > Imagining others. > > > > > > Cheers from me, to me! ;-) > > > > > > you fall back on very poor ratiocination.. > > > > every time you get caught with your ass in a sling... > > > > caused by your own misspoken words. > > > > doesn't work kid. > > That's right, Babbo. > > As the one sitting alone, reading this, imaging others, talks to himself imaginarily through others. > > It doesn't work, me, this reader. > > Woo! An instant of sense got through! gulp gulp gulp.. there's my big boy! are you getting a little " imaginarily " (haha!) wasted timmy? sure as hell reads like you are. of course..when doesn't it? LOL! ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > you fall back on very poor ratiocination.. > > > > every time you get caught with your ass in a sling... > > > > caused by your own misspoken words. > > > > doesn't work kid. > > That's right, Babbo. > > As the one sitting alone, reading this, imaging others, talks to himself imaginarily through others. > > It doesn't work, me, this reader. > > Woo! An instant of sense got through! > P.S. " There is no me " is utter bullshit. I don't care how dualistic that sounds. There is only me. I, this reader, am all alone. I, Babbo, keep making a jackass of myself to imagined " others " . Why? Because I like to see myself as a jackass! Damn! Doesn't it feel GOOD to finally hit on the twooth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > you fall back on very poor ratiocination.. > > > > > > every time you get caught with your ass in a sling... > > > > > > caused by your own misspoken words. > > > > > > doesn't work kid. > > > > That's right, Babbo. > > > > As the one sitting alone, reading this, imaging others, talks to himself imaginarily through others. > > > > It doesn't work, me, this reader. > > > > Woo! An instant of sense got through! > > > > P.S. " There is no me " is utter bullshit. I don't care how dualistic that sounds. > > There is only me. I, this reader, am all alone. > > I, Babbo, keep making a jackass of myself to imagined " others " . > > Why? Because I like to see myself as a jackass! > > Damn! Doesn't it feel GOOD to finally hit on the twooth! you drink alone too. that's what makes you a certified drunk. all by yourself. one day at a time timmy. NOW. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > you fall back on very poor ratiocination.. > > > > > > > > every time you get caught with your ass in a sling... > > > > > > > > caused by your own misspoken words. > > > > > > > > doesn't work kid. > > > > > > That's right, Babbo. > > > > > > As the one sitting alone, reading this, imaging others, talks to himself imaginarily through others. > > > > > > It doesn't work, me, this reader. > > > > > > Woo! An instant of sense got through! > > > > > > > P.S. " There is no me " is utter bullshit. I don't care how dualistic that sounds. > > > > There is only me. I, this reader, am all alone. > > > > I, Babbo, keep making a jackass of myself to imagined " others " . > > > > Why? Because I like to see myself as a jackass! > > > > Damn! Doesn't it feel GOOD to finally hit on the twooth! > > > you drink alone too. > > that's what makes you a certified drunk. > > all by yourself. > > one day at a time timmy. > > NOW. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > I like dwinkin' from time to time, whether alone or with a friend. Doesn't seem out of the ordinary here. Doesn't bring on any crocodile tears, Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fall back on very poor ratiocination.. > > > > > > > > > > every time you get caught with your ass in a sling... > > > > > > > > > > caused by your own misspoken words. > > > > > > > > > > doesn't work kid. > > > > > > > > That's right, Babbo. > > > > > > > > As the one sitting alone, reading this, imaging others, talks to himself imaginarily through others. > > > > > > > > It doesn't work, me, this reader. > > > > > > > > Woo! An instant of sense got through! > > > > > > > > > > P.S. " There is no me " is utter bullshit. I don't care how dualistic that sounds. > > > > > > There is only me. I, this reader, am all alone. > > > > > > I, Babbo, keep making a jackass of myself to imagined " others " . > > > > > > Why? Because I like to see myself as a jackass! > > > > > > Damn! Doesn't it feel GOOD to finally hit on the twooth! > > > > > > you drink alone too. > > > > that's what makes you a certified drunk. > > > > all by yourself. > > > > one day at a time timmy. > > > > NOW. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I like dwinkin' from time to time, whether alone or with a friend. > > Doesn't seem out of the ordinary here. > > Doesn't bring on any crocodile tears, Bob. > There are, of course, pussies and nannies who have something against alcohol. Doesn't concern me any ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fall back on very poor ratiocination.. > > > > > > > > > > every time you get caught with your ass in a sling... > > > > > > > > > > caused by your own misspoken words. > > > > > > > > > > doesn't work kid. > > > > > > > > That's right, Babbo. > > > > > > > > As the one sitting alone, reading this, imaging others, talks to himself imaginarily through others. > > > > > > > > It doesn't work, me, this reader. > > > > > > > > Woo! An instant of sense got through! > > > > > > > > > > P.S. " There is no me " is utter bullshit. I don't care how dualistic that sounds. > > > > > > There is only me. I, this reader, am all alone. > > > > > > I, Babbo, keep making a jackass of myself to imagined " others " . > > > > > > Why? Because I like to see myself as a jackass! > > > > > > Damn! Doesn't it feel GOOD to finally hit on the twooth! > > > > > > you drink alone too. > > > > that's what makes you a certified drunk. > > > > all by yourself. > > > > one day at a time timmy. > > > > NOW. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I like dwinkin' from time to time, whether alone or with a friend. > > Doesn't seem out of the ordinary here. > > Doesn't bring on any crocodile tears, Bob. well hell no i guess not. i'm laughin' about your stuff too. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fall back on very poor ratiocination.. > > > > > > > > > > > > every time you get caught with your ass in a sling... > > > > > > > > > > > > caused by your own misspoken words. > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't work kid. > > > > > > > > > > That's right, Babbo. > > > > > > > > > > As the one sitting alone, reading this, imaging others, talks to himself imaginarily through others. > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't work, me, this reader. > > > > > > > > > > Woo! An instant of sense got through! > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. " There is no me " is utter bullshit. I don't care how dualistic that sounds. > > > > > > > > There is only me. I, this reader, am all alone. > > > > > > > > I, Babbo, keep making a jackass of myself to imagined " others " . > > > > > > > > Why? Because I like to see myself as a jackass! > > > > > > > > Damn! Doesn't it feel GOOD to finally hit on the twooth! > > > > > > > > > you drink alone too. > > > > > > that's what makes you a certified drunk. > > > > > > all by yourself. > > > > > > one day at a time timmy. > > > > > > NOW. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > I like dwinkin' from time to time, whether alone or with a friend. > > > > Doesn't seem out of the ordinary here. > > > > Doesn't bring on any crocodile tears, Bob. > > > > There are, of course, pussies and nannies who have something against alcohol. > > Doesn't concern me any ;-). ROFLMAO! spoken like a true drunk. well anyway..just so you don't get me wrong timmy.. nor let yourself jump on some high horse righteousness kick.. i've got nothing agin' firewater nor winos. i get a kick out of drunks in the midnight choir. belt it out baby! don't let anyone tell you that you.. don't have a big schlong shweetheart. you tell them pussies! booze and bravery go together right hero? :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > ROFLMAO! > > spoken like a true drunk. > > well anyway..just so you don't get me wrong timmy.. No worries, Bob. " You " are nothing but mental noise here. Sounds like all the rest. Couldn't possibly get it 'wrong' ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > spoken like a true drunk. > > > > well anyway..just so you don't get me wrong timmy.. > > No worries, Bob. > > " You " are nothing but mental noise here. > > Sounds like all the rest. Couldn't possibly get it 'wrong' ;-). you're really " something " alright timmy. " you " think " you " are right by saying that " it " can't be wrong. " nothing " is preferable to the " something " " you " identify with. life's good without that burden. not that it's bad with that burden. it's certainly nothing to " worry " about(ha ha!). there's really no one to be worried anyway. unless you believe in being a being.. who is a " something " which is " right " about not being " wrong " . sounds typically just like " you " . noisy yes but without anything mental involved. i'll stick with being the nothing.. as the nothing but the " mental noise " . you just keep on trucking as the mentally mindless something. that's so fitting! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Just for the fun of it, on this version of the list, out of 25 posts... Tim G posted 12 which is 48%. Bob posted 12 which is 48% Dan posted 1 which is .4%. :-)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Michael Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > > > Just for the fun of it, on this version of the list, out of 25 posts... > > Tim G posted 12 which is 48%. > Bob posted 12 which is 48% > Dan posted 1 which is .4%. > > :-)) oh boy what " fun " !! small things for small minds huh mikey. idle hands are the devil's workshop so calculate sonny. you're just busy as a bee huh? business will pick up some day and you won't have time for this fun. then it'll be " magic time " again.. making circles turn into pyramids. and then watching all the kings men and all the kings distributors.. fall down. and then you can put that Humpty Dumpty back together.. again and again and again. you know the drill eh? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Michael Adamson > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:44 PM > Re: New Poll: What to do with Bob? (Dan) ----(HUR) > > > > > > Just for the fun of it, on this version of the list, out of 25 posts... > > Tim G posted 12 which is 48%. > Bob posted 12 which is 48% > Dan posted 1 which is .4%. > > :-)) > > geo> Why not counting me??? he can't count anyway geoparado. he only counted one post for dan. he must have crooked fingers or a forked tongue. no matter which it is..our little mikey is WAY off. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 - Michael Adamson Nisargadatta Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:44 PM Re: New Poll: What to do with Bob? (Dan) ----(HUR) Just for the fun of it, on this version of the list, out of 25 posts... Tim G posted 12 which is 48%. Bob posted 12 which is 48% Dan posted 1 which is .4%. :-)) geo> Why not counting me??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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