Boredom / Werner.

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> > Yes, Werner. It is possible to err on the either side. You can make it all

about entertainment and start pornography and such. Or, you can make it all

about monotonous preaching and make it very dull, dry, boring and humorless. In

either case, I think the list will lose its charm and value.

> >

> > I think Bob offers a very valuable, important and interesting challenge to

the " teachings " and by doing so, he sometimes exposes the pitfalls of the

teaching and he also makes the whole experience far more engaging and revealing

than it would be without any witty challenge.

> >

> > I, personally, would have great difficulty in understanding what you or few

other members write here. J. Krishnamurthy was known to be a complex and

" difficult to understand " teacher. You guys sometimes talk in way which is even

more difficult to understand. Understanding it feels like " torture " -

especially, when it becomes too monotonous. It appears to me that you guys might

be too much in love with certain concepts and can't help but jest keep repeating

it in the same monotonous, dry way over and over. Bob sometimes cancels that

through his wit, humor and challenge and sometimes, he breaks it into smaller

pieces that can be easily digested.

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> > regards,

> > ac

> >

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> Thanks, Ac,

>

> Intersting point.

 

Thanks.

 

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> Question: Why is one longing for and needing any challenge at all ?

 

I was talking about a concept, theory, a teaching needing questions, challenges

and examination in order to clarify it and to discover its flaws.

 

 

I was not talking about a person needing challenges. But, now that you ask, I

think a person too might work in the same way. Mental challenges might help you

make mentally sharper, more focussed and stronger. Physical exercise/challenge

can make you physically stronger and can help develop stronger muscles.

 

 

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> Is it because our minds are that sluggish and/or depending on outside stimuli

? Does one constantly need some kick or stimulus to feel alive ?

 

As long as you are alive, your heart beats, blood flows, breathing happens,

digestion happens, you get hungry.Lot of activities keep happening as long as

one is alive.

 

 

 

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> Do you personally need challenges, AC ?

 

I need food, water, shelter, clothes and, sometimes, medicines to survive. Many

times, to me and to many others, that itself creates a " challenge " . When working

or communicating I do enjoy activities that makes me think in new ways and

discover new possibilities.

 

 

 

 

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> Because you already mentioned Krishnamurti here is what he said about boredom:

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> " Boredom is the threatening dawning realization of what one really is: Nothing

!

 

 

When one is deep dreamless sleep - one is not bored.

 

When one is resting or relaxing by his choice - one is not bored.

 

To me, boredom is being stuck in situation which a person no longer enjoys.

 

 

 

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> That's why one constantly is craving for entertainment and for challenges as

an escape not having to face one's shallowness and nothingness " .

 

 

" Shallowness " , " nothingness " are the stupid creation of the same stupid

'thinking mind'. When one is in deep dreamless sleep - one is neither shallow

nor nothing.

 

 

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> Ok then, let's have fun and let's choose Bob as our king !

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> Werner

 

 

 

 

regards,

ac