Ramana: Self-Realization.

[Guest guest]

Mr. Cohen: I get into meditation and

reach a point which may be called peace

and a contemplative mood. What should

be the next step?

 

M: Peace is Self-Realization. Peace

need not be disturbed. One should aim

at Peace only.

 

D.: But I do not have the satisfaction.

 

M: Because your peace is temporary. If

made permanent it is called Realization.

 

....

 

M: Realisation is nothing to be got

afresh. It is already there. All that

is necessary is to be rid of the

thought: " I have not realised. "

 

D.: Then one need not attempt it.

 

M: No. STILLNESS OF MIND OR PEACE IS

REALISATION. There is no moment when

the Self is not.

 

 

....

 

M:

....

 

The thoughts are due to identification

of the Self with the nonself. When the

non-self disappears the Self alone

remains. To make room anywhere it is

enough that things are removed from

there.

 

 

Room is not brought in afresh. Nay,

more - room is there even in cramping.

Absence of thoughts does not mean a

blank. THERE MUST BE ONE TO KNOW THE

BLANK. Knowledge and ignorance are of

the mind. They are born of duality. But

the Self is beyond knowledge and

ignorance. It is light itself. THERE IS

NO NECESSITY. TO SEE THE SELF WITH

ANOTHER 'SELF.

 

 

....Blankness is the evil result of

searching the mind. The mind must be

cut off, root and branch. See who the

thinker is, who the seeker is.

Abide as the thinker, the seeker. All

thoughts will disappear.

[Guest guest]

M: Realisation is nothing to be got

afresh. It is already there. All that

is necessary is to be rid of the

thought: " I have not realised. "

 

D.: Then one need not attempt it.

 

M: No. STILLNESS OF MIND OR PEACE IS

REALISATION. There is no moment when

the Self is not.

[Guest guest]

After it is felt the practice should not be made an end in itself. Nada is not

the objective; the subject should firmly be held; otherwise a blank will result.

Though the subject is there even in the blank he would not be aware of the

cessation of nada of different kinds. In order to be aware even in that blank

one must remember his own self.

 

 

 

....

 

D.: How to get rid of the mind?

 

M: Is it the mind that wants to kill itself? The mind cannot kill itself. So

your business is to find the real nature of the mind. Then you will know that

there is no mind. When the Self is sought, the mind is nowhere. Abiding in the

Self, one need not worry about the mind.

 

 

 

....

 

M: ...The Self is ever there, there is nothing without it. Be the Self and the

desires and doubts will disappear. Such Self is the witness in sleep, dream and

waking states of existence. These states belong to the ego. The Self transcends

even the ego. Did you not exist in sleep? Did you know then that you were asleep

or unaware of the world? It is only in the waking state that you describe the

experience of sleep as being unawareness; therefore the consciousness when

asleep is the same as that when awake. If you know what this waking

consciousness is, you will know the consciousness which witnesses all the three

states. Such consciousness could be found by seeking the consciousness as it was

in sleep.

 

D.: In that case, I fall asleep.

M: No harm!

 

D.: It is a blank.

M: For whom is the blank? Find out. You cannot deny yourself at any time. The

Self is ever there and continues in all states.

 

[...]

 

 

Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

> M: Realisation is nothing to be got

> afresh. It is already there. All that

> is necessary is to be rid of the

> thought: " I have not realised. "

>

> D.: Then one need not attempt it.

>

> M: No. STILLNESS OF MIND OR PEACE IS

> REALISATION. There is no moment when

> the Self is not.

>