Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Ah! Finally I found the original. Geo - thanks for sharing! I appreciated it. Many people have had strange experiences when kids. I do not recall any myself - but my dad told me when he was in his late seventies - that he died during brain-surgery when he was 10 years old. Fascinating. He was a wonderful guy and not a school-master at all. Im not certain he believed in anything really - 'religious' belief is on my mother's side. I recall when for the first time I realised I was alone - all alone; and I was surrounded by family, and it was in the dark ness of the night. I would get epileptic fits round that time & had had a few already. Started when I was 35. Not regular - just the odd one. Later I figured that it was my having a bit of fun with TM that triggered it but could be anything really but was it scarey and not funny at all to find one was alone. Been crazy ever since really, like before - crazy all my life really. Kids say I am crazy the " good way " - kids can be nice No fits no more; no resistance, no fits. Two winters ago Walking alone in a frosty world Dustey Glazey Bluish Icebells chiming in the willows Mystery tour Unrealistically Wonderful And the roof lifted above me And all was wide open As the lid on top of the head was removed And there I was Without a head Imagine that As I walked home The lid recomposed itself As I walked home Slowly Slowly Very slowly I was the world there For a moment No head No tail No body Much love Lene > Well..since you told us some stuff about yourself, and bbb gave us even the > address the cemetery he is buried in, I will tell you something related to > K(partly repetition). > > At the age of 6 I was walking down a path to meet some friends near the > lake. Suddenly I had to freeze. I had just " seen " that I was the only being > in the universe that was inside a body - for all other where seen (by me) > from outside. AS I did not know how to read, did not have any religious > upbringing (both parents atheists), the episode did not cause any severe > repercussion to my personality except that I knew that the " I " was something > absolutely unique...but a natural event of nature. Of course at that time my > " seeing " was incomplete because I did not understand the non-dual nature of > what IS. I just understood that the " I " was absolutely intransferible and > totally unmoving. I found something that seemed fixed: the " I " . (in a way > there is some truth in it) > > In fact what happened at that time, now I know, is that a peace of the roof > cracked and I saw some light creeping in. > > Very well. A decade or more later I found a little book I don't remember > where...from K. I started reading it and the man was saying that there is no > " I " !!!! > What???!!! I thought. What is going on here? The problem was that by the > time I arrived at the chapter he said that (no I) I was already hooked to > his intelligence, his reasoning, and mostly to his insights. So I just could > not drop him...and kept reading him trying to find out where the flaw was.. > (no I)...... > -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > Ah! Finally I found the original. Geo - thanks for sharing! I > appreciated it. Many people have had strange experiences when > kids. I do not recall any myself - but my dad told me when he > was in his late seventies - that he died during brain-surgery > when he was 10 years old. Fascinating. He was a wonderful guy > and not a school-master at all. Im not certain he believed in > anything really - 'religious' belief is on my mother's side. > > I recall when for the first time I realised I was alone - all > alone; and I was surrounded by family, and it was in the dark > ness of the night. I would get epileptic fits round that time > & had had a few already. Started when I was 35. Not regular - > just the odd one. Later I figured that it was my having a bit > of fun with TM that triggered it but could be anything really > but was it scarey and not funny at all to find one was alone. > > Been crazy ever since really, like before - crazy all my life > really. Kids say I am crazy the " good way " - kids can be nice > > No fits no more; no resistance, no fits. > > Two winters ago > Walking alone in a frosty world > Dustey > Glazey > Bluish > Icebells chiming in the willows > Mystery tour > Unrealistically > Wonderful > And the roof lifted above me > And all was wide open > As the lid on top of the head was removed > And there I was > Without a head > Imagine that > As I walked home > The lid recomposed itself > As I walked home > Slowly > Slowly > Very slowly > I was the world there > For a moment > No head > No tail > No body > > > Much love > Lene Déja-vue: Now that I come to think of it - my first death-experience was not in '97, only in '87 -- I died during sleep and the next day I got up - grasped the kid and want to stay at my father's house, and I did not sleep for a month - I was so afraid, terrified rather that if I ever went a sleep again I would never wake up. This was not my first death-experience of course --- there were loads of them in my sleep throughout childhood, loads and t'was almost a blessing to be wakened and having to go to school - almost Bottom line -- there are no limits to imagination and that is basically what there is to this called life. I just reread what you wrote below and it was like I hadnt read all of it on reading through it for the first time. What a mystery tour! )) PD - ahem - PS. Hopefully you will get off the hook of and that rather sooner than later - the K-hook. Better hang in one's own hook )) It is all a flying circus anyway -Lene Where is Bob buried? Tell me tell me tell me, pray tell that I can bring him blue flowers in the moonshineon light > > Well..since you told us some stuff about yourself, and bbb gave us even the > > address the cemetery he is buried in, I will tell you something related to > > K(partly repetition). > > > > At the age of 6 I was walking down a path to meet some friends near the > > lake. Suddenly I had to freeze. I had just " seen " that I was the only being > > in the universe that was inside a body - for all other where seen (by me) > > from outside. AS I did not know how to read, did not have any religious > > upbringing (both parents atheists), the episode did not cause any severe > > repercussion to my personality except that I knew that the " I " was something > > absolutely unique...but a natural event of nature. Of course at that time my > > " seeing " was incomplete because I did not understand the non-dual nature of > > what IS. I just understood that the " I " was absolutely intransferible and > > totally unmoving. I found something that seemed fixed: the " I " . (in a way > > there is some truth in it) > > > > In fact what happened at that time, now I know, is that a peace of the roof > > cracked and I saw some light creeping in. > > > > Very well. A decade or more later I found a little book I don't remember > > where...from K. I started reading it and the man was saying that there is no > > " I " !!!! > > What???!!! I thought. What is going on here? The problem was that by the > > time I arrived at the chapter he said that (no I) I was already hooked to > > his intelligence, his reasoning, and mostly to his insights. So I just could > > not drop him...and kept reading him trying to find out where the flaw was.. > > (no I)...... > > -geo- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 > -Lene > > Where is Bob buried? Tell me tell me tell me, pray tell > that I can bring him blue flowers in the moonshineon light it's an unmarked quasi-burial place in the center of the universe. baba's not there. he Arose shortly before being placed there by His disciples. He can never be Found but He's always Around. Glory .b b.b Unto Baba. this Heavenly message is being Graciously sent from Cloud Nine. Hark the Herald Angels Sing: Rock and Roll boys and girls! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Err...ahamm..what is TM? -geo- - Lene Nisargadatta Monday, January 18, 2010 11:38 AM Re: Was JK stuck? Geo Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > Ah! Finally I found the original. Geo - thanks for sharing! I > appreciated it. Many people have had strange experiences when > kids. I do not recall any myself - but my dad told me when he > was in his late seventies - that he died during brain-surgery > when he was 10 years old. Fascinating. He was a wonderful guy > and not a school-master at all. Im not certain he believed in > anything really - 'religious' belief is on my mother's side. > > I recall when for the first time I realised I was alone - all > alone; and I was surrounded by family, and it was in the dark > ness of the night. I would get epileptic fits round that time > & had had a few already. Started when I was 35. Not regular - > just the odd one. Later I figured that it was my having a bit > of fun with TM that triggered it but could be anything really > but was it scarey and not funny at all to find one was alone. > > Been crazy ever since really, like before - crazy all my life > really. Kids say I am crazy the " good way " - kids can be nice > > No fits no more; no resistance, no fits. > > Two winters ago > Walking alone in a frosty world > Dustey > Glazey > Bluish > Icebells chiming in the willows > Mystery tour > Unrealistically > Wonderful > And the roof lifted above me > And all was wide open > As the lid on top of the head was removed > And there I was > Without a head > Imagine that > As I walked home > The lid recomposed itself > As I walked home > Slowly > Slowly > Very slowly > I was the world there > For a moment > No head > No tail > No body > > > Much love > Lene Déja-vue: Now that I come to think of it - my first death-experience was not in '97, only in '87 -- I died during sleep and the next day I got up - grasped the kid and want to stay at my father's house, and I did not sleep for a month - I was so afraid, terrified rather that if I ever went a sleep again I would never wake up. This was not my first death-experience of course --- there were loads of them in my sleep throughout childhood, loads and t'was almost a blessing to be wakened and having to go to school - almost Bottom line -- there are no limits to imagination and that is basically what there is to this called life. I just reread what you wrote below and it was like I hadnt read all of it on reading through it for the first time. What a mystery tour! )) PD - ahem - PS. Hopefully you will get off the hook of and that rather sooner than later - the K-hook. Better hang in one's own hook )) It is all a flying circus anyway -Lene Where is Bob buried? Tell me tell me tell me, pray tell that I can bring him blue flowers in the moonshineon light > > Well..since you told us some stuff about yourself, and bbb gave us even > > the > > address the cemetery he is buried in, I will tell you something related > > to > > K(partly repetition). > > > > At the age of 6 I was walking down a path to meet some friends near the > > lake. Suddenly I had to freeze. I had just " seen " that I was the only > > being > > in the universe that was inside a body - for all other where seen (by > > me) > > from outside. AS I did not know how to read, did not have any religious > > upbringing (both parents atheists), the episode did not cause any severe > > repercussion to my personality except that I knew that the " I " was > > something > > absolutely unique...but a natural event of nature. Of course at that > > time my > > " seeing " was incomplete because I did not understand the non-dual nature > > of > > what IS. I just understood that the " I " was absolutely intransferible > > and > > totally unmoving. I found something that seemed fixed: the " I " . (in a > > way > > there is some truth in it) > > > > In fact what happened at that time, now I know, is that a peace of the > > roof > > cracked and I saw some light creeping in. > > > > Very well. A decade or more later I found a little book I don't remember > > where...from K. I started reading it and the man was saying that there > > is no > > " I " !!!! > > What???!!! I thought. What is going on here? The problem was that by the > > time I arrived at the chapter he said that (no I) I was already hooked > > to > > his intelligence, his reasoning, and mostly to his insights. So I just > > could > > not drop him...and kept reading him trying to find out where the flaw > > was.. > > (no I)...... > > -geo- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > -Lene > > > > Where is Bob buried? Tell me tell me tell me, pray tell > > that I can bring him blue flowers in the moonshineon light > > > it's an unmarked quasi-burial place in the center of the universe. > > baba's not there. > > he Arose shortly before being placed there by His disciples. > > He can never be Found but He's always Around. > > Glory .b b.b Unto Baba. > > this Heavenly message is being Graciously sent from Cloud Nine. > > Hark the Herald Angels Sing: > > Rock and Roll boys and girls! > > .b b.b. P: Oh, Bob, why don't you tell it like it is. You are a hot tamale, wrapped inside an enchilada, buried inside a burrito. Just tell your readers to belch softly, and carry a big bottle of Pepto Bismol. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > Where is Bob buried? Tell me tell me tell me, pray tell > > > that I can bring him blue flowers in the moonshineon light > > > > > > it's an unmarked quasi-burial place in the center of the universe. > > > > baba's not there. > > > > he Arose shortly before being placed there by His disciples. > > > > He can never be Found but He's always Around. > > > > Glory .b b.b Unto Baba. > > > > this Heavenly message is being Graciously sent from Cloud Nine. > > > > Hark the Herald Angels Sing: > > > > Rock and Roll boys and girls! > > > > .b b.b. > > P: Oh, Bob, why don't you tell it like > it is. You are a hot tamale, wrapped inside > an enchilada, buried inside a burrito. Just > tell your readers to belch softly, and carry a > big bottle of Pepto Bismol. :-) i'd " go forward " with a " come back " .. but that seems to paradoxical even for me. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > -Lene > > > > Where is Bob buried? Tell me tell me tell me, pray tell > > that I can bring him blue flowers in the moonshineon light > > > it's an unmarked quasi-burial place in the center of the universe. > > baba's not there. > > he Arose shortly before being placed there by His disciples. --- > He can never be Found but He's always Around. Just like the truth - I thought I had found it and held it tight but when I opened my hand it had gone with the light light was still there empty handed -Lene > > Glory .b b.b Unto Baba. > > this Heavenly message is being Graciously sent from Cloud Nine. > > Hark the Herald Angels Sing: > > Rock and Roll boys and girls! > > .b b.b. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > Where is Bob buried? Tell me tell me tell me, pray tell > > > that I can bring him blue flowers in the moonshineon light > > > > > > it's an unmarked quasi-burial place in the center of the universe. > > > > baba's not there. > > > > he Arose shortly before being placed there by His disciples. > > > > --- > > He can never be Found but He's always Around. > > > > Just like the truth - I thought I had found it and held it tight > but when I opened my hand it had gone with the light > light was still there > empty handed > > -Lene yes it's interesting how " seekers of TOTAL TRUTH " .. after they think they have found it.. go on and seek " additional Truth " . usually.... within days of finding their " Truth " .. they find a " Truth " that has superseded the first " Truth " . how does " THE truth " do that magical disappearing act? evidently there are many overlapping Truths. which would seem to indicate that there is no THE Truth at all. which may also indicate that there is NO truth whatsoever. except for the truth we make. " seek ye and ye shall find " ..is no bullshit. whatever you seek as the truth you will find. it's usually exactly what you set out to seek. we love to confirm what we think we know we already know. i don't know but baba doesn't think we know anything. so seeking seems senseless. like reaching for any coveted " goal " ... when once it is attained as the ever sought after.. it begins to melt as an Ice Idol held in the hand that holds it. and Great New Vistas appear to be before one's eyes to reach for. or as Chester Riley used to say: " Gillis..it's a losin' battle! " :-) ..b b.b. > > Glory .b b.b Unto Baba. > > > > this Heavenly message is being Graciously sent from Cloud Nine. > > > > Hark the Herald Angels Sing: > > > > Rock and Roll boys and girls! > > > > .b b.b. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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