Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I beg to differ... N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in your consciousness,and not seperate from it. realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1 wrote: > > I beg to differ... > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . it's vastly simpler than all that. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 - crowbarus1 Nisargadatta Monday, January 18, 2010 2:13 AM nisaragadatta I beg to differ... N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in your consciousness,and not seperate from it. realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . geo: But then you wake up and all is back again. From where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1 wrote: > > I beg to differ... > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... There is no such thing as pure consciousness and there is also no impure consciousness. The idea of pure consciouss has its origin in that very old idea that consciousness is a mirror - wipe that mirror clean and, voila: You get pure consciousness. > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > Right, that's it. Consciousness is all there is. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > crowbarus1 > Nisargadatta > Monday, January 18, 2010 2:13 AM > nisaragadatta > > > > I beg to differ... > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the > realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition > imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has > taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in > the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to > " pure awareness " ... > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted > for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once > consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > geo: But then you wake up and all is back again. From where? > When you fall asleep the brain is putting consciousness into a box and locks it off and when you wake up the brain unlocks and opens that box again. Didn't you know that, Geo ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Right, that's it. Consciousness is all there is. Werner And, werner, when you wake up from deep dreamless sleep, where was consciousness? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 - wwoehr Nisargadatta Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:57 PM Re: nisaragadatta Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > crowbarus1 > Nisargadatta > Monday, January 18, 2010 2:13 AM > nisaragadatta > > > > I beg to differ... > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the > realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by > definition > imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has > taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is > in > the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to > " pure awareness " ... > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be > accounted > for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once > consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > geo: But then you wake up and all is back again. From where? > When you fall asleep the brain is putting consciousness into a box and locks it off and when you wake up the brain unlocks and opens that box again. Didn't you know that, Geo ? Werner So " brain " is other then consciousness? Must be if it can put consciousness into a box. Is it? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > wwoehr > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:57 PM > Re: nisaragadatta > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > crowbarus1 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, January 18, 2010 2:13 AM > > nisaragadatta > > > > > > > > I beg to differ... > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the > > realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by > > definition > > imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has > > taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is > > in > > the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to > > " pure awareness " ... > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be > > accounted > > for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once > > consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > > > geo: But then you wake up and all is back again. From where? > > > > When you fall asleep the brain is putting consciousness into a box and locks > it off and when you wake up the brain unlocks and opens that box again. > > Didn't you know that, Geo ? > > Werner > > So " brain " is other then consciousness? Must be if it can put consciousness > into a box. > Is it? > -geo- P: Let's test if you guys are conscious. Who noticed Nis name was misspelled in the tittle of all these posts? LOL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 - geo Nisargadatta Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:10 PM Re: Re: nisaragadatta - wwoehr Nisargadatta Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:57 PM Re: nisaragadatta Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > crowbarus1 > Nisargadatta > Monday, January 18, 2010 2:13 AM > nisaragadatta > > > > I beg to differ... > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the > realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by > definition > imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has > taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is > in > the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to > " pure awareness " ... > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be > accounted > for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once > consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > geo: But then you wake up and all is back again. From where? > When you fall asleep the brain is putting consciousness into a box and locks it off and when you wake up the brain unlocks and opens that box again. Didn't you know that, Geo ? Werner So " brain " is other then consciousness? Must be if it can put consciousness into a box. Is it? Then, later, when it is time to wake up, consciousness is locked in the box - together with the brain, because brain is not separate from consciousness.....(@#$%#%) -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1@> wrote: > > > > I beg to differ... > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... > > > There is no such thing as pure consciousness and there is also no impure consciousness. The idea of pure consciouss has its origin in that very old idea that consciousness is a mirror - wipe that mirror clean and, voila: You get pure consciousness. > > > > > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > > > > Right, that's it. Consciousness is all there is. > > Werner well then wernie poo-pants.. how did you miss out in participation with that consciousness? oh baba knows.. you're not part of all there is. right. that's it. wernerina is all of all there isn't. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > crowbarus1 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, January 18, 2010 2:13 AM > > nisaragadatta > > > > > > > > I beg to differ... > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the > > realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition > > imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has > > taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in > > the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to > > " pure awareness " ... > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted > > for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once > > consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > > > geo: But then you wake up and all is back again. From where? > > > > > When you fall asleep the brain is putting consciousness into a box and locks it off and when you wake up the brain unlocks and opens that box again. > > Didn't you know that, Geo ? > > Werner so you're living outside the box huh wernie? that's why you're unconscious. well then.. don't bother waking up. it wouldn't matter. not for an unconscious stupid dummkopf like yourself. yours truly.. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > Right, that's it. Consciousness is all there is. > > Werner > > And, werner, when you wake up from deep dreamless sleep, where was > consciousness? > -geo- that's an unfair question for wernerina. she never wakes up. consciousness has nothing to do with her. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > Right, that's it. Consciousness is all there is. > > Werner > > And, werner, when you wake up from deep dreamless sleep, where was > consciousness? > -geo- are you suggesting consciousness is subject to " place " ? you are kidding right? you don't really " think " that consciousness " comes and goes " are you? nor are you trying to imply.. that consciousness " comes from " or " goes to " ANYWHERE are you? are you OK? do you like asking senseless questions? oh wait.. that's right.. you're speaking with wernie poo-pants. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > wwoehr > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:57 PM > > Re: nisaragadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > crowbarus1 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 2:13 AM > > > nisaragadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ... > > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the > > > realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by > > > definition > > > imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has > > > taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is > > > in > > > the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to > > > " pure awareness " ... > > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be > > > accounted > > > for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once > > > consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > > > > > geo: But then you wake up and all is back again. From where? > > > > > > > When you fall asleep the brain is putting consciousness into a box and locks > > it off and when you wake up the brain unlocks and opens that box again. > > > > Didn't you know that, Geo ? > > > > Werner > > > > So " brain " is other then consciousness? Must be if it can put consciousness > > into a box. > > Is it? > > -geo- > > P: Let's test if you guys are conscious. Who noticed > Nis name was misspelled in the tittle of all these posts? LOL wow! how could anybody miss the misspelling of Alfred E. Neuman? the " What 'Me' Worry " kid Himself. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 > > > > P: Let's test if you guys are conscious. Who noticed > > Nis name was misspelled in the tittle of all these posts? LOL > > > wow! > > how could anybody miss the misspelling of Alfred E. Neuman? > > the " What 'Me' Worry " kid Himself. > > :-) > > .b b.b. P: That ain't no joke, Bob. Most these guys here believe awareness is some kind of ultimate cosmic perfection. So how come, it misses typos then? No one can deny we all miss very important things, like not seeing a car coming, and having a fender bender. Being distracted is a common thing. So, how come? If Awareness is all there is, it should not miss anything. Am I missing something to go on pissing about this? Nah! We love pissing, don't we, baba? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:59 PM Re: nisaragadatta > > > > P: Let's test if you guys are conscious. Who noticed > > Nis name was misspelled in the tittle of all these posts? LOL > > > wow! > > how could anybody miss the misspelling of Alfred E. Neuman? > > the " What 'Me' Worry " kid Himself. > > :-) > > .b b.b. P: That ain't no joke, Bob. Most these guys here believe awareness is some kind of ultimate cosmic perfection. So how come, it misses typos then? No one can deny we all miss very important things, like not seeing a car coming, and having a fender bender. Being distracted is a common thing. So, how come? If Awareness is all there is, it should not miss anything. Am I missing something to go on pissing about this? Nah! We love pissing, don't we, baba? geo> Pete, there is nothing that is not awareness. Missing typos is what awareness is. Your delirium, believing awareness is " something " this or that is also it. So is distractions and pissing also. Suppose awareness was only " not missing typos " , then missing them would be what? Would it be something in " another " field of existence? Yea... " Existence - 6, the final episode " LOL LOL LOL -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > > > P: Let's test if you guys are conscious. Who noticed > > > Nis name was misspelled in the tittle of all these posts? LOL > > > > > > wow! > > > > how could anybody miss the misspelling of Alfred E. Neuman? > > > > the " What 'Me' Worry " kid Himself. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > P: That ain't no joke, Bob. Most these guys > here believe awareness is some kind of ultimate > cosmic perfection. So how come, it misses typos > then? No one can deny we all miss very important > things, like not seeing a car coming, and having > a fender bender. Being distracted is a common thing. > So, how come? If Awareness is all there is, it should > not miss anything. Am I missing something to go on > pissing about this? Nah! We love pissing, don't we, > baba? yeah.. playing guitar.. playing keyboards.. boating and fishing.. and pissing... these are the fab few of my most favorite things. i don't know but i think that we think too much about our thinking. and we think it's tits. the absolute pinnacle of wonder and greatness. sometime soon after the first thought thought.. there most likely came a second thought that said: " hey..I'm GOD! " .. or " I AM....and I am made in My God's image " .. (the God who says " I AM " .) or something similar to that. it's the arrogance of a clam actually. if we were clams we would " feel " if not " think " .. that everything pretty much centered around clams.. and that " clamness " was the highest capability and of the Universe. the Ultimate Cool. anyway.. the idea that our thinking thoughts is tantamount to " Awareness " .. and that therefore Awareness is subject to the rules of our games: of logic and phrasing and cognition and spelling et. al... is such a belittlement to whatever the hell Awareness IS.. (i don't have a f*cking clue what that is).. is just so much hubris and that's all. please excuse me.. i've just been hit by a car and need to piss. i hope you don't miss me.. but i hope you miss any misspellings i made. we don't need any distractions that i'm aware of anyway. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1 wrote: > > I beg to differ... > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . you're just imagining that, in retrospect, because you thought process has inferred two hours past and you have no recollection of it. Thought is associating " memory " as " being aware. " A false equation. Thought's contents have never been about what " awareness " actually is - only other thoughts supposed to be about " awareness. " But awareness as a concept, as a memory of something one is aware of, is not what awareness is. So, the word " nothing " gets used. " Nothing " = " awareness. " Such an equation hints at bringing down the house of cards constructed by memory through thought's contents and associations. Now, one sees, only the seeing and the being of this nothing are not-two. There is no word for this. Yet, words flow forth, and flow on ... The game of human discourse and thought's process being what it is ... and isn't ... - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > > > P: Let's test if you guys are conscious. Who noticed > > > Nis name was misspelled in the tittle of all these posts? LOL > > > > > > wow! > > > > how could anybody miss the misspelling of Alfred E. Neuman? > > > > the " What 'Me' Worry " kid Himself. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > P: That ain't no joke, Bob. Most these guys > here believe awareness is some kind of ultimate > cosmic perfection. So how come, it misses typos > then? No one can deny we all miss very important > things, like not seeing a car coming, and having > a fender bender. Being distracted is a common thing. > So, how come? If Awareness is all there is, it should > not miss anything. Am I missing something to go on > pissing about this? Nah! We love pissing, don't we, > baba? Pete - All of your discourse is through awareness. Ideas about something noticed, something not noticed. Why get hung up on the word " awareness " and concepts about it? Clearly the word ain't the actuality. You've used the word " sensed. " All your talk is sensed ... Sensing, awareness - does the word really matter? The actuality never could be truly represented. The actuality that I am isn't " I " isn't " am. " All this talk going back and forth about nothing. Successful nothing talk. Unsuccessful nothing talk. If a bridge gets built, it needs to be structurally sound. So, give me some structurally sound talk about structurelessness. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1@> wrote: > > > > I beg to differ... > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > you're just imagining that, in retrospect, because you thought process has inferred two hours past and you have no recollection of it. > > Thought is associating " memory " as " being aware. " > > A false equation. > > Thought's contents have never been about what " awareness " actually is - only other thoughts supposed to be about " awareness. " > > But awareness as a concept, as a memory of something one is aware of, is not what awareness is. > > So, the word " nothing " gets used. > > " Nothing " = " awareness. " > > Such an equation hints at bringing down the house of cards constructed by memory through thought's contents and associations. > > Now, one sees, only the seeing and the being of this nothing are not-two. > > There is no word for this. > > Yet, words flow forth, and flow on ... > > The game of human discourse and thought's process being what it is ... > > and isn't ... > > - Dan - hahahahahaaaa! are you on something? i bet you impress you huh? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1@> wrote: > > > > > > I beg to differ... > > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... > > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > > > you're just imagining that, in retrospect, because you thought process has inferred two hours past and you have no recollection of it. > > > > Thought is associating " memory " as " being aware. " > > > > A false equation. > > > > Thought's contents have never been about what " awareness " actually is - only other thoughts supposed to be about " awareness. " > > > > But awareness as a concept, as a memory of something one is aware of, is not what awareness is. > > > > So, the word " nothing " gets used. > > > > " Nothing " = " awareness. " > > > > Such an equation hints at bringing down the house of cards constructed by memory through thought's contents and associations. > > > > Now, one sees, only the seeing and the being of this nothing are not-two. > > > > There is no word for this. > > > > Yet, words flow forth, and flow on ... > > > > The game of human discourse and thought's process being what it is ... > > > > and isn't ... > > > > - Dan - > > > hahahahahaaaa! > > are you on something? > > i bet you impress you huh? > > LOL! > > .b b.b. impressive, and he's mild. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I beg to differ... > > > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... > > > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > > > > > you're just imagining that, in retrospect, because you thought process has inferred two hours past and you have no recollection of it. > > > > > > Thought is associating " memory " as " being aware. " > > > > > > A false equation. > > > > > > Thought's contents have never been about what " awareness " actually is - only other thoughts supposed to be about " awareness. " > > > > > > But awareness as a concept, as a memory of something one is aware of, is not what awareness is. > > > > > > So, the word " nothing " gets used. > > > > > > " Nothing " = " awareness. " > > > > > > Such an equation hints at bringing down the house of cards constructed by memory through thought's contents and associations. > > > > > > Now, one sees, only the seeing and the being of this nothing are not-two. > > > > > > There is no word for this. > > > > > > Yet, words flow forth, and flow on ... > > > > > > The game of human discourse and thought's process being what it is ... > > > > > > and isn't ... > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > hahahahahaaaa! > > > > are you on something? > > > > i bet you impress you huh? > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > impressive, and he's mild. > > - D - oh shit dabbo... you're full of it. full of the same shit as after the oh above. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ... > > > > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > > > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > > > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > > > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > > > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... > > > > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > > > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > > > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > > > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > > > > > > > you're just imagining that, in retrospect, because you thought process has inferred two hours past and you have no recollection of it. > > > > > > > > Thought is associating " memory " as " being aware. " > > > > > > > > A false equation. > > > > > > > > Thought's contents have never been about what " awareness " actually is - only other thoughts supposed to be about " awareness. " > > > > > > > > But awareness as a concept, as a memory of something one is aware of, is not what awareness is. > > > > > > > > So, the word " nothing " gets used. > > > > > > > > " Nothing " = " awareness. " > > > > > > > > Such an equation hints at bringing down the house of cards constructed by memory through thought's contents and associations. > > > > > > > > Now, one sees, only the seeing and the being of this nothing are not-two. > > > > > > > > There is no word for this. > > > > > > > > Yet, words flow forth, and flow on ... > > > > > > > > The game of human discourse and thought's process being what it is ... > > > > > > > > and isn't ... > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > hahahahahaaaa! > > > > > > are you on something? > > > > > > i bet you impress you huh? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > impressive, and he's mild. > > > > - D - > > > oh shit dabbo... > > you're full of it. > > full of the same shit as after the oh above. > > .b b.b. full of it. empty of it. full of it. empty of it. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ... > > > > > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > > > > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > > > > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > > > > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > > > > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... > > > > > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > > > > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > > > > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > > > > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > > > > > > > > > you're just imagining that, in retrospect, because you thought process has inferred two hours past and you have no recollection of it. > > > > > > > > > > Thought is associating " memory " as " being aware. " > > > > > > > > > > A false equation. > > > > > > > > > > Thought's contents have never been about what " awareness " actually is - only other thoughts supposed to be about " awareness. " > > > > > > > > > > But awareness as a concept, as a memory of something one is aware of, is not what awareness is. > > > > > > > > > > So, the word " nothing " gets used. > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing " = " awareness. " > > > > > > > > > > Such an equation hints at bringing down the house of cards constructed by memory through thought's contents and associations. > > > > > > > > > > Now, one sees, only the seeing and the being of this nothing are not-two. > > > > > > > > > > There is no word for this. > > > > > > > > > > Yet, words flow forth, and flow on ... > > > > > > > > > > The game of human discourse and thought's process being what it is ... > > > > > > > > > > and isn't ... > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahaaaa! > > > > > > > > are you on something? > > > > > > > > i bet you impress you huh? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > impressive, and he's mild. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > oh shit dabbo... > > > > you're full of it. > > > > full of the same shit as after the oh above. > > > > .b b.b. > > > full of it. > > empty of it. > > full of it. > > empty of it. > > - d - full of shit.. empty of brains.. full of shit.. empty of brains.. i like that dabbo! that's you to a " D " . :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " crowbarus1 " <crowbarus1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ... > > > > > > N's ..expose is wonderful,but...the latter part where one comes to the realization of the absolute(pure awareness) seems unattainable to me.. > > > > > > If you say you have realized the absolute(pure awareness),that by definition imlpies and implicates a " you " ... > > > > > > my point is,you can go as far,and realize your " consciousness " .. > > > > > > but to go beyond...? who is it that is going beyond ??who is it that has taken notice of that " going beyond " ???.. > > > > > > Pure awareness,is like gasoline,and consciousness is the gasoline that is in the tank of your car..you can only be aware of your consiounness thanks to " pure awareness " ... > > > > > > The so called " realization " of pure awareness can only happen in > > > > > > your consciousness,and not seperate from it. > > > > > > realization of pure awareness is an impossible task... > > > > > > when you are under anesthesia for 2 hrs,those two hours cn not be accounted for....in those 2 hrs there is neither consciousness nor awareness...once consciousness is gone ..so has awareness . > > > > > > > > > > you're just imagining that, in retrospect, because you thought process has inferred two hours past and you have no recollection of it. > > > > > > > > > > Thought is associating " memory " as " being aware. " > > > > > > > > > > A false equation. > > > > > > > > > > Thought's contents have never been about what " awareness " actually is - only other thoughts supposed to be about " awareness. " > > > > > > > > > > But awareness as a concept, as a memory of something one is aware of, is not what awareness is. > > > > > > > > > > So, the word " nothing " gets used. > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing " = " awareness. " > > > > > > > > > > Such an equation hints at bringing down the house of cards constructed by memory through thought's contents and associations. > > > > > > > > > > Now, one sees, only the seeing and the being of this nothing are not-two. > > > > > > > > > > There is no word for this. > > > > > > > > > > Yet, words flow forth, and flow on ... > > > > > > > > > > The game of human discourse and thought's process being what it is ... > > > > > > > > > > and isn't ... > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahaaaa! > > > > > > > > are you on something? > > > > > > > > i bet you impress you huh? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > impressive, and he's mild. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > oh shit dabbo... > > > > you're full of it. > > > > full of the same shit as after the oh above. > > > > .b b.b. > > > full of it. > > empty of it. > > full of it. > > empty of it. > > - d - > Stop! You're going to scare him! :-p. (oh wait... you stopped ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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