Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Do I want to see my son happy... because I want my son's happiness or, because seeing him happy makes me happy or, because, I consider it my duty or, because, I am conditioned by the nature, biology, evolution ('God') to think, feel and behave that way and I have real control or choice over it? Why do I care whether you believe me or not... when I speak " truth " ? Why do I care whether you listen to me or not... when I speak " truth " ? Why do I care whether you understand me or not... when I speak " truth " ? Why do I care whether you understand enlightenment/liberation or not (,if you really do want to understand it)... when I speak " truth " ? Why do I care whether you get enlightenment/liberation or not (,if it really matters to you)... when I speak " truth " ? Why do I care.... when I have no hope of getting sex, money or fame out of you believing, understanding one way or the other? Do I really love you? If yes, why? If not, why do I care... is it because, I am conditioned by the nature, biology, evolution ('God') to think, feel and behave that way and I have real control or choice over it? I really don't understand the logic behind it? Why do I care? .... Why do you care? I know most of you don't get any money for posting what you post here! Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > I have no interest in " becoming " enlightened. > > I have no interest in " becoming " a mukta. > > I have no interest in " achieving " liberation. > > I have no interest in " achieving " moksha. > > I have no interest in " achieving " nirvana. > > > > I am not a Advaita pioneer or scholar like Shankara. > > I am not a relinquisher like Ramana. > > I am not a famous philosopher like J. Krishnamurti. > > I have not written a bestseller like Tolle. > > I don't have charisma like Osho. > > I am not a social leader like Gandhi. > > I am not a scientist like Einstein. > > > > Yet, I can't deny that I am enlightened. > > > ...and, this I can say without wanting any sex, money or fame from it. To me, it is a simple and truthful expression of truth as I know it. > > > To me, it is like saying: > > ...I mayn't run like Usain Bolt! > > ...I mayn't play golf like Tiger Woods! > > ...I mayn't be as pious as Gandhi! > > ...I mayn't show scientific acumen of Einstein! > > ...I mayn't have blockbusters like Tom Cruise or a fan following like Madonna! > > > > ....yet, I can't deny that my blood too is red! > > > Do I have to run like Bolt or be famous like Tom Cruise or have disciples like Niz in order to have " red blood " ? I don't think so. Yet, when it comes to " enlightenment " , I do think some (make it " many " ) of us think that way. Luckily blood is a " thing " and thus, can be easily checked and verified. > > > > ...by the way, just like Tom Cruise, Madonna as well as like Ramana... I too get into deep dreamless sleep... sometimes, " consciously " ... other times, unconsciously! And, I know I can't argue like Shankara? > > What does it say? > > I am afraid perhaps, it says nothing to the 'believers' among us! > > > BTW... is Tom Cruise's blood really red? > I know it is expected to be. But, I haven't really seen it myself! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 what you really care about is hearing yourself talk.. about why or why not you care. supplemental to that you care about having other people believe.. that you actually care about something or anything.. including caring about whether they themselves care. it's a con game but you will never admit it. and you even think that it's an abuse of thought to think otherwise. but bottom line..without lying to yourself or others.. that's the game you're playing. same with everyone about everything. but you love lying..almost as much as yourself..maybe even more. your " self " is the first and prime lie. and that first fib feeds the magical journey. oh i know..it sounds terrible. it is. ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > Do I want to see my son happy... > > because I want my son's happiness > > or, > > because seeing him happy makes me happy > > or, > > because, I consider it my duty > > > or, > > because, I am conditioned by the nature, biology, evolution ('God') to think, feel and behave that way and I have real control or choice over it? > > > > Why do I care whether you believe me or not... when I speak " truth " ? > > Why do I care whether you listen to me or not... when I speak " truth " ? > > Why do I care whether you understand me or not... when I speak " truth " ? > > Why do I care whether you understand enlightenment/liberation or not (,if you really do want to understand it)... when I speak " truth " ? > > > Why do I care whether you get enlightenment/liberation or not (,if it really matters to you)... when I speak " truth " ? > > > > Why do I care.... when I have no hope of getting sex, money or fame out of you believing, understanding one way or the other? > > > Do I really love you? If yes, why? If not, why do I care... > > > is it because, I am conditioned by the nature, biology, evolution ('God') to think, feel and behave that way and I have real control or choice over it? > > > I really don't understand the logic behind it? > > Why do I care? > > > ... > > > Why do you care? > > > I know most of you don't get any money for posting what you post here! > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > I have no interest in " becoming " enlightened. > > > > I have no interest in " becoming " a mukta. > > > > I have no interest in " achieving " liberation. > > > > I have no interest in " achieving " moksha. > > > > I have no interest in " achieving " nirvana. > > > > > > > > I am not a Advaita pioneer or scholar like Shankara. > > > > I am not a relinquisher like Ramana. > > > > I am not a famous philosopher like J. Krishnamurti. > > > > I have not written a bestseller like Tolle. > > > > I don't have charisma like Osho. > > > > I am not a social leader like Gandhi. > > > > I am not a scientist like Einstein. > > > > > > > > Yet, I can't deny that I am enlightened. > > > > > > ...and, this I can say without wanting any sex, money or fame from it. To me, it is a simple and truthful expression of truth as I know it. > > > > > > To me, it is like saying: > > > > ...I mayn't run like Usain Bolt! > > > > ...I mayn't play golf like Tiger Woods! > > > > ...I mayn't be as pious as Gandhi! > > > > ...I mayn't show scientific acumen of Einstein! > > > > ...I mayn't have blockbusters like Tom Cruise or a fan following like Madonna! > > > > > > > > ....yet, I can't deny that my blood too is red! > > > > > > Do I have to run like Bolt or be famous like Tom Cruise or have disciples like Niz in order to have " red blood " ? I don't think so. Yet, when it comes to " enlightenment " , I do think some (make it " many " ) of us think that way. Luckily blood is a " thing " and thus, can be easily checked and verified. > > > > > > > > ...by the way, just like Tom Cruise, Madonna as well as like Ramana... I too get into deep dreamless sleep... sometimes, " consciously " ... other times, unconsciously! And, I know I can't argue like Shankara? > > > > What does it say? > > > > I am afraid perhaps, it says nothing to the 'believers' among us! > > > > > > BTW... is Tom Cruise's blood really red? > > I know it is expected to be. But, I haven't really seen it myself! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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