Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Lene > Nisargadatta > Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:09 AM > Re: Does neo-advaita work like a disease? > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > Consicousness, the known, things, bodies are empty shells. They are > > > filled > > > with IS-NESS. > > > -oge- > > > > If you say so goe > > Can there be iss-ness without the empty shells? > > -nlen > > > > This is a very interesting question. But the fact is that the question - > > that any " serious " :>) investigator have faced one time or the other - is > > conceptual and can never be in other way because what IS is is-ness plus > > the > > empty shells. > > Dear Horche > > I don't know whether we are in agreement or dis-ditto so let > me just convey what I have to say. For ex I am not sure what > you mean by 1 plus 1. So. > > I don't want to split hairs yet must say that there is not 1 > plus 1. Only one which is none. Not this AND this (re. That) > > This morning it was all clear. Have not slept properly for 3 > nights and I am not quite myself (fig of speech > > There was a sensation of being - just being - not something - > only this iss-ness which you call it and which I call nothing > or presence or empty-of-content or formless and there was the > shell/form, drinking coffee and smoking. The only missing was > thought. It was very weird. > > And it was like a non-movement was a-watching the movement of > the shell/form - like there were two in the game. > > Then it came clear that the moving and the non-moving was all > the same; where one was, the other was; and they were not two > - they were one an the same. > > The everchanging (form, shell) equals, IS, the neverchanging. > > Because the everchanging is transient it can not be told from > the neverchanging - and so - as a matter of fact - nothing is > moving! There is movement all right - but nothing moving. > > Try to separate them - just give it a try > > I AM - the [n]everchanging. > > The answer to my question: can there be iss-ness without the > empty shell? Is no. > > So what? So - nothing! > > Here is to appearences! Let us keep 'em up > > I have read the rest of your message. No comment. > > Love > Lene > > > > I agree. They are non-separable. " They are " and it just is. > -geo- Ah! Finally a meeting. Now I will give it a rest, take a break and a walk on the lake (who said one could not walk on water?) and feed some birds and tonight I will take the usual doze-off medicine and get some sleep for there is no need to experiment with life - being it, one form or another - is just fine. Thank you, Geo, all the best Love Lene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 - Lene Nisargadatta Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:09 AM Re: Does neo-advaita work like a disease? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > Consicousness, the known, things, bodies are empty shells. They are > > filled > > with IS-NESS. > > -oge- > > If you say so goe > Can there be iss-ness without the empty shells? > -nlen > > This is a very interesting question. But the fact is that the question - > that any " serious " :>) investigator have faced one time or the other - is > conceptual and can never be in other way because what IS is is-ness plus > the > empty shells. Dear Horche I don't know whether we are in agreement or dis-ditto so let me just convey what I have to say. For ex I am not sure what you mean by 1 plus 1. So. I don't want to split hairs yet must say that there is not 1 plus 1. Only one which is none. Not this AND this (re. That) This morning it was all clear. Have not slept properly for 3 nights and I am not quite myself (fig of speech There was a sensation of being - just being - not something - only this iss-ness which you call it and which I call nothing or presence or empty-of-content or formless and there was the shell/form, drinking coffee and smoking. The only missing was thought. It was very weird. And it was like a non-movement was a-watching the movement of the shell/form - like there were two in the game. Then it came clear that the moving and the non-moving was all the same; where one was, the other was; and they were not two - they were one an the same. The everchanging (form, shell) equals, IS, the neverchanging. Because the everchanging is transient it can not be told from the neverchanging - and so - as a matter of fact - nothing is moving! There is movement all right - but nothing moving. Try to separate them - just give it a try I AM - the [n]everchanging. The answer to my question: can there be iss-ness without the empty shell? Is no. So what? So - nothing! Here is to appearences! Let us keep 'em up I have read the rest of your message. No comment. Love Lene I agree. They are non-separable. " They are " and it just is. -geo- > An is-ness without its empty patterns, or is-ness without the > world is a non-fact. So the next question is: if that is an impossible > case > how can one realize that there is such is-ness at all? I don't know how to > answer that, but what I can say is: in order to the waves to > be...obviously > the sea must be there. This is NOT some conclusion or concept or theory. > It > is THE most obvious fact. For anything to be, first there must be a > " dimensionless space " for it to be. > -ggo- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I don't know whether we are in agreement or dis-ditto so let me just convey what I have to say. For ex I am not sure what you mean by 1 plus 1. So. I don't want to split hairs yet must say that there is not 1 plus 1. Only one which is none. Not this AND this (re. That) -lenine- Analogous to electrons and substance. The same electrons and an infinitude of different substances. Substances may transform, react, oxidate, burn, freeze, liquidify, gaseify..... and the electrons remain the same. -ego- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 > I agree. They are non-separable. " They are " and it just is. > -geo- Ah! Finally a meeting. Now I will give it a rest, take a break and a walk on the lake (who said one could not walk on water?) and feed some birds and tonight I will take the usual doze-off medicine and get some sleep for there is no need to experiment with life - being it, one form or another - is just fine. Thank you, Geo, all the best Love Lene Sounds as if you where going somewhere " else " ! LOL -egg- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > I agree. They are non-separable. " They are " and it just is. > > -geo- > > Ah! Finally a meeting. Now I will give it a rest, take a break > and a walk on the lake (who said one could not walk on water?) > and feed some birds and tonight I will take the usual doze-off > medicine and get some sleep for there is no need to experiment > with life - being it, one form or another - is just fine. > > Thank you, Geo, all the best > > Love > Lene > > Sounds as if you where going somewhere " else " ! > LOL > -egg- geg i just like to finish a job before I go do something " else " . and thanks; i slept well last night; back on dr pill -leena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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