Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta, Marc <dennis_travis33@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > a game about spiritual winners and losers... > > > > > > > > which don't work in a non-dual group... > > > > -marc- > > > > > > > > non-dual group? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > yes....there are plenty of ego minded little dual freaks in here " who " take themself for more enlightened than appearent others... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > without knowling that there just isn't any " enlightenment " which could happen to anybody in person > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > seeing " ego minded little dual freaks in here " > > > > > > *is* that disease you warned us about, Marc. > > > > > > when the best defense is a good offense ... > > > > > > and it's for the sake of a supposed " nondual group " ... > > > > > > how twisted can things get? > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > such ego minded little dual freaks in here.....are as real as the dream of last night....i know > > > > > > ... > > > > > > this doesn't mean that it's allowed to have some fun with > > > > > > ... > > > > > > what is the real reason you are posting in here dan? > > > > > > ... > > > > > > don't give an answer...please > > > > > > ... > > > > > > you know that there isn't any answer to give > > > > > > ... > > > > > > you are death! > > > > > > ... > > > > > > i mean...i hope so! > > > > > > ... > > > > > > if not...please...do some effort, finally > > > > > > ... > > > > > > instead of leaving this your non-sense and meaningless words in here...again and again... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > like all this proud neos Love to do....for one ver good reason... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Look, Marc - > > > > If it's a dream to you, and you're just interacting with dream images in your own mind ... > > > > And understand that there's nothing to be offered therein ... > > > > All righty then ... > > > > > > - Dan - > > > i just love Jim Carrey movies.. > > especially Ace Ventura. > > all righty then. > > and all righty now too of course. > > i think. > > or i think i think. > > at least i thought. > > maybe that's all wrongy. > > i just can't be sure. > > but i'm at least sure i can't be sure. > > i think. > > or i think that i.. > > that's a cut. > > .b b.b. Okay, but tell that badger to get back under the pile of dirty laundry. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, Marc <dennis_travis33@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > a game about spiritual winners and losers... > > > > > > > > > > which don't work in a non-dual group... > > > > > -marc- > > > > > > > > > > non-dual group? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes....there are plenty of ego minded little dual freaks in here " who " take themself for more enlightened than appearent others... > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > without knowling that there just isn't any " enlightenment " which could happen to anybody in person > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > seeing " ego minded little dual freaks in here " > > > > > > > > *is* that disease you warned us about, Marc. > > > > > > > > when the best defense is a good offense ... > > > > > > > > and it's for the sake of a supposed " nondual group " ... > > > > > > > > how twisted can things get? > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > such ego minded little dual freaks in here.....are as real as the dream of last night....i know > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > this doesn't mean that it's allowed to have some fun with > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > what is the real reason you are posting in here dan? > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > don't give an answer...please > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > you know that there isn't any answer to give > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > you are death! > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > i mean...i hope so! > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > if not...please...do some effort, finally > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > instead of leaving this your non-sense and meaningless words in here...again and again... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > like all this proud neos Love to do....for one ver good reason... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Look, Marc - > > > > > > If it's a dream to you, and you're just interacting with dream images in your own mind ... > > > > > > And understand that there's nothing to be offered therein ... > > > > > > All righty then ... > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > i just love Jim Carrey movies.. > > > > especially Ace Ventura. > > > > all righty then. > > > > and all righty now too of course. > > > > i think. > > > > or i think i think. > > > > at least i thought. > > > > maybe that's all wrongy. > > > > i just can't be sure. > > > > but i'm at least sure i can't be sure. > > > > i think. > > > > or i think that i.. > > > > that's a cut. > > > > .b b.b. > > Okay, but tell that badger to get back under the pile of dirty laundry. > > - D - Jesus loves you too dabbo. but you need to get down on your knees a little more often. but you can just bow to baba too. that get's you about the same merit as burning 6 votive candles. what laundry? i don't have any rags to wash for my head. i wear a new baseball cap every other day. " hare kitchy hairy hairy itchy koo ko kokomo. aramalamadingdong. polly wolly doodle all day. " how close are you to California dabbo? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, Marc <dennis_travis33@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > a game about spiritual winners and losers... > > > > > > > > > > > > which don't work in a non-dual group... > > > > > > -marc- > > > > > > > > > > > > non-dual group? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes....there are plenty of ego minded little dual freaks in here " who " take themself for more enlightened than appearent others... > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > without knowling that there just isn't any " enlightenment " which could happen to anybody in person > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > seeing " ego minded little dual freaks in here " > > > > > > > > > > *is* that disease you warned us about, Marc. > > > > > > > > > > when the best defense is a good offense ... > > > > > > > > > > and it's for the sake of a supposed " nondual group " ... > > > > > > > > > > how twisted can things get? > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such ego minded little dual freaks in here.....are as real as the dream of last night....i know > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > this doesn't mean that it's allowed to have some fun with > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > what is the real reason you are posting in here dan? > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > don't give an answer...please > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > you know that there isn't any answer to give > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > you are death! > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > i mean...i hope so! > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > if not...please...do some effort, finally > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > instead of leaving this your non-sense and meaningless words in here...again and again... > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > like all this proud neos Love to do....for one ver good reason... > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Look, Marc - > > > > > > > > If it's a dream to you, and you're just interacting with dream images in your own mind ... > > > > > > > > And understand that there's nothing to be offered therein ... > > > > > > > > All righty then ... > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > i just love Jim Carrey movies.. > > > > > > especially Ace Ventura. > > > > > > all righty then. > > > > > > and all righty now too of course. > > > > > > i think. > > > > > > or i think i think. > > > > > > at least i thought. > > > > > > maybe that's all wrongy. > > > > > > i just can't be sure. > > > > > > but i'm at least sure i can't be sure. > > > > > > i think. > > > > > > or i think that i.. > > > > > > that's a cut. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Okay, but tell that badger to get back under the pile of dirty laundry. > > > > - D - > > > Jesus loves you too dabbo. > > but you need to get down on your knees a little more often. > > but you can just bow to baba too. > > that get's you about the same merit as burning 6 votive candles. > > what laundry? > > i don't have any rags to wash for my head. > > i wear a new baseball cap every other day. > > " hare kitchy > > hairy hairy itchy > > koo ko kokomo. > > aramalamadingdong. > > polly wolly doodle all day. " > > how close are you to California dabbo? > > .b b.b. I'm about an hour and forty-five minutes from San Francisco. You going to be in San Francisco? - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 yes, Tim.... > > meditate finally on some reality.... > > instead to produce meaningless non-dual crap > > ... > > > > > Marc So, Marc gives advice to one of his dreamed up characters? And " Marc " is a dreamed up character? All righty then ... - D - yes, everything all right.... wish a nice day .... a nice world .... a nice -D- .... and that all this your wishes come true .... or stay being true .... or whatever you like .... up to you Dan .... to nobody else Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Hello, Marc. There are no " somes " to know or not know. Hello! - D - hello Dan, how are you? ... are you there? ... not there? .... how is your day? .... hello Dan! .... hello, hello .... wait....i leave you some exiting words and worlds.... .... NEO ADVAITA .... wow...isn't it exciting!? .... hello Dan .... are you there? .... nobody is there? .... you are nobody? .... etc etc etc hey Dan .... is this game ok for you? .... i'm having some effort to please you... .... isn't it exciting?! .... hello hello Dan .... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > yes, Tim.... > > > > meditate finally on some reality.... > > > > instead to produce meaningless non-dual crap > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > So, Marc gives advice to one of his dreamed up characters? > > And " Marc " is a dreamed up character? > > All righty then ... > > - D - > > > yes, everything all right.... > > wish a nice day > > ... > > a nice world > > ... > > a nice -D- > > ... > > and that all this your wishes come true > > ... > > or stay being true > > ... > > or whatever you like > > ... > > up to you Dan > > ... > > to nobody else > > > > > Marc Yes, this somebody else is a useful fiction I employ from time to time. Smiles, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Hello, Marc. > > There are no " somes " to know or not know. > > Hello! > > - D - > > > > hello Dan, > > how are you? > > .. > > are you there? > > .. > > not there? > > ... > > how is your day? > > ... > > hello Dan! > > ... > > hello, hello > > ... > > wait....i leave you some exiting words and worlds.... > > ... > > NEO ADVAITA > > ... > > wow...isn't it exciting!? > > ... > > hello Dan > > ... > > are you there? > > ... > > nobody is there? > > ... > > you are nobody? > > ... > > etc > > > etc > > > etc > > > > hey Dan > > ... > > is this game ok for you? > > ... > > > i'm having some effort to please you... > > ... > > isn't it exciting?! > > ... > > > > hello hello Dan > > ... > > > lol laughter at the fictional character Marc dreams up to talk to. laughter at Marc dreaming he is the one talking. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 [...] > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > Dan, > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' I think Werner asked a *valid* and *real* question, Dan Jee! I think Far More Real than... 'What is 'non-duality'?', 'What is Self?', 'Are there 'others'?', 'What is 'Consciousness'?', 'What is 'enlightenment'?', 'What is " truth " ?' and likes... And, I do think you 'bailed out' without answering it with courage, openness and honesty. Not, what is " honesty " ??? Well... that is avenue for many other 'diplomatic', 'political' or 'convoluted philosophical' or 'Advaitic' answers :-) A great cartoon that US shared on GR: < http://digitalconversations.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/calvinacademiahereicome.\ jpg > > > > > Werner > > Werner - > > Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. > > > Thanks, > > Dan > [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > I think Werner asked a *valid* and *real* question, Dan Jee! > > I think Far More Real than... > > 'What is 'non-duality'?', > 'What is Self?', > 'Are there 'others'?', > 'What is 'Consciousness'?', > 'What is 'enlightenment'?', > 'What is " truth " ?' > > and likes... It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good guy/bad guy philosophy " . I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before Werner asked if there were limits to it. As such, it's not a valid question. A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good guy/bad guy philosophy? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > I think Werner asked a *valid* and *real* question, Dan Jee! > > I think Far More Real than... > > 'What is 'non-duality'?', > 'What is Self?', > 'Are there 'others'?', > 'What is 'Consciousness'?', > 'What is 'enlightenment'?', > 'What is " truth " ?' > > and likes... > > > > And, I do think you 'bailed out' without answering it with courage, openness and honesty. thank you, ac, for reporting your thoughts. - d - > Not, what is " honesty " ??? > > > Well... that is avenue for many other 'diplomatic', 'political' or 'convoluted philosophical' or 'Advaitic' answers :-) A great cartoon that US shared on GR: > > < http://digitalconversations.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/calvinacademiahereicome.\ jpg > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > Werner - > > > > Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > > > > [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > > > > > I think Werner asked a *valid* and *real* question, Dan Jee! > > > > I think Far More Real than... > > > > 'What is 'non-duality'?', > > 'What is Self?', > > 'Are there 'others'?', > > 'What is 'Consciousness'?', > > 'What is 'enlightenment'?', > > 'What is " truth " ?' > > > > and likes... > > It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good guy/bad guy philosophy " . > > I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before Werner asked if there were limits to it. > > As such, it's not a valid question. > > A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good guy/bad guy philosophy? " i'm an invalid. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Werner asked a *valid* and *real* question, Dan Jee! > > > > > > I think Far More Real than... > > > > > > 'What is 'non-duality'?', > > > 'What is Self?', > > > 'Are there 'others'?', > > > 'What is 'Consciousness'?', > > > 'What is 'enlightenment'?', > > > 'What is " truth " ?' > > > > > > and likes... > > > > It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good guy/bad guy philosophy " . > > > > I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before Werner asked if there were limits to it. > > > > As such, it's not a valid question. > > > > A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good guy/bad guy philosophy? " > > i'm an invalid. > > - d - > I'm burning incense. It's in here, in a sense. That's why they call it incense ;-p. Not incensed at ya, -T- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > I think Werner asked a *valid* and *real* question, Dan Jee! I think Werner asked THE at all times most stupid question AC LOL What would you do IF - IF - IF - IF - how the heck can I know what I would do IF? That is the most nonsensical question one can ask. But that is what many of us do all the time. What IF Saddam has massdestruction weapons? We better take him out now, no need to wait and see. What IF the man is a terrorist? We better get him and lock him up in the Guantanamo an let him stay there till he expires and we can jubilate: hurray, one more potential terrorist down! And take another look at Werner's question to Dan: " If some guy raped your daughter (...) " Now: what IF Dan does not even have a daughter? Ha ha ha ha > I think Far More Real than... I think there is no such thing as far more or far less real. > 'What is 'non-duality'?', > 'What is Self?', > 'Are there 'others'?', > 'What is 'Consciousness'?', > 'What is 'enlightenment'?', > 'What is " truth " ?' > > and likes... > > > > And, I do think you 'bailed out' without answering it with courage, openness and honesty. IF I had a god I would say Oh My God! Enough of this -- everybody but me most likely has ended and buried this discussion a long time ago. I just wrote that be cause I wanted to say something to somebody -Lene > Not, what is " honesty " ??? > > > Well... that is avenue for many other 'diplomatic', 'political' or 'convoluted philosophical' or 'Advaitic' answers :-) A great cartoon that US shared on GR: > > < http://digitalconversations.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/calvinacademiahereicome.\ jpg > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > Werner - > > > > Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > > > > [...] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > > > > > It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good guy/bad guy philosophy " . > > > > > > I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before Werner asked if there were limits to it. > > > > > > As such, it's not a valid question. > > > > > > A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good guy/bad guy philosophy? " > > > > i'm an invalid. > > > > - d - > > > > I'm burning incense. > > It's in here, in a sense. > > That's why they call it incense ;-p. > > Not incensed at ya, > > -T- You're not in-sensed. Because there's only sensing and nothing in it. Sensing never makes sense. Don't be tense or get incensed. Have one of these peppermints. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > > > > > I think Werner asked a *valid* and *real* question, Dan Jee! > > > > > I think Werner asked THE at all times most stupid question AC > LOL > > What would you do IF - IF - IF - IF - how the heck can I know > what I would do IF? That is the most nonsensical question one > can ask. > > But that is what many of us do all the time. > > What IF Saddam has massdestruction weapons? We better take him > out now, no need to wait and see. > > What IF the man is a terrorist? We better get him and lock him > up in the Guantanamo an let him stay there till he expires and > we can jubilate: hurray, one more potential terrorist down! > > And take another look at Werner's question to Dan: > > " If some guy raped your daughter (...) " > > Now: what IF Dan does not even have a daughter? Ha ha ha ha > > > > > I think Far More Real than... > > > I think there is no such thing as far more or far less real. > > > > > 'What is 'non-duality'?', > > 'What is Self?', > > 'Are there 'others'?', > > 'What is 'Consciousness'?', > > 'What is 'enlightenment'?', > > 'What is " truth " ?' > > > > and likes... > > > > > > > > And, I do think you 'bailed out' without answering it with courage, openness and honesty. > > > > IF I had a god I would say Oh My God! > > Enough of this -- everybody but me most likely has ended and > buried this discussion a long time ago. I just wrote that be > cause I wanted to say something to somebody > > -Lene Well, what you wrote was very well-said. I would have said something well, but I wasn't well, so I couldn't. I was in-disposed. Disposed of, you see. And I can't be well, because I'm invalid. I'm invalidated. And that is valid. Love, Valid, the Impaled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good guy/bad guy philosophy " . > > > > > > > > I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before Werner asked if there were limits to it. > > > > > > > > As such, it's not a valid question. > > > > > > > > A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good guy/bad guy philosophy? " > > > > > > i'm an invalid. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > I'm burning incense. > > > > It's in here, in a sense. > > > > That's why they call it incense ;-p. > > > > Not incensed at ya, > > > > -T- > > You're not in-sensed. > > Because there's only sensing and nothing in it. > > Sensing never makes sense. > > Don't be tense or get incensed. > > Have one of these peppermints. > > - D - > There's innocence in a sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Werner asked a *valid* and *real* question, Dan Jee! > > > > > > > > > > I think Werner asked THE at all times most stupid question AC > > LOL > > > > What would you do IF - IF - IF - IF - how the heck can I know > > what I would do IF? That is the most nonsensical question one > > can ask. > > > > But that is what many of us do all the time. > > > > What IF Saddam has massdestruction weapons? We better take him > > out now, no need to wait and see. > > > > What IF the man is a terrorist? We better get him and lock him > > up in the Guantanamo an let him stay there till he expires and > > we can jubilate: hurray, one more potential terrorist down! > > > > And take another look at Werner's question to Dan: > > > > " If some guy raped your daughter (...) " > > > > Now: what IF Dan does not even have a daughter? Ha ha ha ha > > > > > > > > > I think Far More Real than... > > > > > > I think there is no such thing as far more or far less real. > > > > > > > > > 'What is 'non-duality'?', > > > 'What is Self?', > > > 'Are there 'others'?', > > > 'What is 'Consciousness'?', > > > 'What is 'enlightenment'?', > > > 'What is " truth " ?' > > > > > > and likes... > > > > > > > > > > > > And, I do think you 'bailed out' without answering it with courage, openness and honesty. > > > > > > > > IF I had a god I would say Oh My God! > > > > Enough of this -- everybody but me most likely has ended and > > buried this discussion a long time ago. I just wrote that be > > cause I wanted to say something to somebody > > > > -Lene > > Well, what you wrote was very well-said. All the stuff on this list is well-said. It gets dropped down into a well the moment it's said ;-D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:37 PM Re: It's very simple Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > > > > > It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good > > > guy/bad guy philosophy " . > > > > > > I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before > > > Werner asked if there were limits to it. > > > > > > As such, it's not a valid question. > > > > > > A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good guy/bad > > > guy philosophy? " > > > > i'm an invalid. > > > > - d - > > > > I'm burning incense. > > It's in here, in a sense. > > That's why they call it incense ;-p. > > Not incensed at ya, > > -T- You're not in-sensed. Because there's only sensing and nothing in it. Sensing never makes sense. Don't be tense or get incensed. Have one of these peppermints. - D - In a sense only the senses makes sense - even the nonesense. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good guy/bad guy philosophy " . > > > > > > > > > > I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before Werner asked if there were limits to it. > > > > > > > > > > As such, it's not a valid question. > > > > > > > > > > A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good guy/bad guy philosophy? " > > > > > > > > i'm an invalid. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > I'm burning incense. > > > > > > It's in here, in a sense. > > > > > > That's why they call it incense ;-p. > > > > > > Not incensed at ya, > > > > > > -T- > > > > You're not in-sensed. > > > > Because there's only sensing and nothing in it. > > > > Sensing never makes sense. > > > > Don't be tense or get incensed. > > > > Have one of these peppermints. > > > > - D - > > > > There's innocence in a sense. Niiiiiice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Werner asked a *valid* and *real* question, Dan Jee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Werner asked THE at all times most stupid question AC > > > LOL > > > > > > What would you do IF - IF - IF - IF - how the heck can I know > > > what I would do IF? That is the most nonsensical question one > > > can ask. > > > > > > But that is what many of us do all the time. > > > > > > What IF Saddam has massdestruction weapons? We better take him > > > out now, no need to wait and see. > > > > > > What IF the man is a terrorist? We better get him and lock him > > > up in the Guantanamo an let him stay there till he expires and > > > we can jubilate: hurray, one more potential terrorist down! > > > > > > And take another look at Werner's question to Dan: > > > > > > " If some guy raped your daughter (...) " > > > > > > Now: what IF Dan does not even have a daughter? Ha ha ha ha > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Far More Real than... > > > > > > > > > I think there is no such thing as far more or far less real. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'What is 'non-duality'?', > > > > 'What is Self?', > > > > 'Are there 'others'?', > > > > 'What is 'Consciousness'?', > > > > 'What is 'enlightenment'?', > > > > 'What is " truth " ?' > > > > > > > > and likes... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, I do think you 'bailed out' without answering it with courage, openness and honesty. > > > > > > > > > > > > IF I had a god I would say Oh My God! > > > > > > Enough of this -- everybody but me most likely has ended and > > > buried this discussion a long time ago. I just wrote that be > > > cause I wanted to say something to somebody > > > > > > -Lene > > > > Well, what you wrote was very well-said. > > All the stuff on this list is well-said. > > It gets dropped down into a well the moment it's said ;-D. Along with everything else that never happened. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:37 PM > Re: It's very simple > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good > > > > guy/bad guy philosophy " . > > > > > > > > I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before > > > > Werner asked if there were limits to it. > > > > > > > > As such, it's not a valid question. > > > > > > > > A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good guy/bad > > > > guy philosophy? " > > > > > > i'm an invalid. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > I'm burning incense. > > > > It's in here, in a sense. > > > > That's why they call it incense ;-p. > > > > Not incensed at ya, > > > > -T- > > You're not in-sensed. > > Because there's only sensing and nothing in it. > > Sensing never makes sense. > > Don't be tense or get incensed. > > Have one of these peppermints. > > - D - > > In a sense only the senses makes sense - even the nonesense. > -geo- I haven't made anything from sense. No sense in it. No future to it. Senselessly sensing, - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good guy/bad guy philosophy " . > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before Werner asked if there were limits to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > As such, it's not a valid question. > > > > > > > > > > > > A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good guy/bad guy philosophy? " > > > > > > > > > > i'm an invalid. > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm burning incense. > > > > > > > > It's in here, in a sense. > > > > > > > > That's why they call it incense ;-p. > > > > > > > > Not incensed at ya, > > > > > > > > -T- > > > > > > You're not in-sensed. > > > > > > Because there's only sensing and nothing in it. > > > > > > Sensing never makes sense. > > > > > > Don't be tense or get incensed. > > > > > > Have one of these peppermints. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > There's innocence in a sense. > > Niiiiiice! > Ahh, like Toomie sez. 'Cept you're not Toomie. Mmmkay, Doomie :-p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:09 PM Re: It's very simple Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:37 PM > Re: It's very simple > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It would only be 'valid' and 'real' if Dan had a valid, real " good > > > > guy/bad guy philosophy " . > > > > > > > > I'm not at all convinced such a thing had been established, before > > > > Werner asked if there were limits to it. > > > > > > > > As such, it's not a valid question. > > > > > > > > A more valid question might have been " Dan, do you have a good > > > > guy/bad > > > > guy philosophy? " > > > > > > i'm an invalid. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > I'm burning incense. > > > > It's in here, in a sense. > > > > That's why they call it incense ;-p. > > > > Not incensed at ya, > > > > -T- > > You're not in-sensed. > > Because there's only sensing and nothing in it. > > Sensing never makes sense. > > Don't be tense or get incensed. > > Have one of these peppermints. > > - D - > > In a sense only the senses makes sense - even the nonesense. > -geo- I haven't made anything from sense. No sense in it. No future to it. Senselessly sensing, - D - Senselessly awareing, -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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