Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > I would say there is more chance of him getting into your knickers than any enlightenment...Tony. > > > > > When hit by a bullet... both a saint as well as a sinner dies. His/her heart stops, brain stops, mind stops... > > > Having taken a drug... both a saint as well as a sinner is likely to show similar changes. His/her heart beat changes, brain wave changes, emotions change, though change, how he feels too changes... > > > Having taken enough alcohol... both a saint as well as a sinner is likely to show similar changes. His/her heart beat changes, brain wave changes, emotions change, though change, how he feels too changes... > > Both a saint as well as sinner can get a DUI when driving under influence. > > > Medicines, drugs, poison, food, drink... bacteria, virus affect saint and sinner similarly. Both a saint as well as a sinner can go into deep dreamless sleep... their brain shown similar waves, their mind too enters similar state. > Love can be said to be a mental state... yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. Fear can be said to be a mental state... yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. Excitement can be said to be a mental state... yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. Joy can be said to be a mental state... yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. Happiness can be said to be a mental state... yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. Peace can be said to be a mental state... yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. Deep dreamless can be said to be a mental state... yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical and Mental? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 [...] > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical and Mental? > http://home.att.net/~meditation/Osho.html Mr. Calder guy thinks... .... Functional magnetic resonance imaging scans (fMRI scans) of Tibetan monks and Hindu yogis have shown that during deep meditation the parts of the brain that gives us a sense of location in time and space are less active. If you slow down the thought process, and at the same time reduce the brain's sense of location, consciousness loses both its content and its boundaries. You feel infinite, timeless, and empty. This feeling of an infinite Void gives the false impression that ego no longer exists. Egolessness is an illusion because the ego function is a fundamental part of the basic physical structure of the brain itself. Ego cannot be lost unless your brain dies, which will cause your entire body to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical and Mental? > > > > > http://home.att.net/~meditation/Osho.html > > Mr. Calder guy thinks... > > ... > > Functional magnetic resonance imaging scans (fMRI scans) of Tibetan monks and Hindu yogis have shown that during deep meditation the parts of the brain that gives us a sense of location in time and space are less active. If you slow down the thought process, and at the same time reduce the brain's sense of location, consciousness loses both its content and its boundaries. You feel infinite, timeless, and empty. This feeling of an infinite Void gives the false impression that ego no longer exists. Egolessness is an illusion because the ego function is a fundamental part of the basic physical structure of the brain itself. Ego cannot be lost unless your brain dies, which will cause your entire body to die. > .... Rajneesh possessed the power of direct energy transmission, which is known in India as " shaktipat. " He used this power nobly to bring comfort and inspiration to his disciples. .... Listening to J. Krishnamurti speak was like eating a sandwich made of bread and sand. I found the best way to enjoy his talks was to completely ignore his words and quietly absorb his presence. Using that technique I would become so expanded after a lecture that I could barely talk for hours afterwards. .... Whatever term you use for the phenomena of enlightenment, it is scientifically accurate to say that no human being has any power of their own. Even the chemical energy of our metabolism is borrowed from the sun, which beams light to the earth, which is then converted by plants through photosynthesis into the food we eat. You may get your bread from the supermarket, but the caloric energy it contains originated from thermonuclear reactions deep in the center of a nearby star. Our physical bodies run on star power. Any " spiritual " energy we channel also comes from far beyond, from all sides of the universe, from the complete TES, from beyond the oceans of galaxies, and onto infinity. No human being owns the Atman, and no one can speak for the TES. .... Rajneesh went even further and used his channeled cosmic energy to manipulate masses of people to gain a kind of quasi-political status, and to aggrandize himself far beyond what was honest or helpful to his disciples. .... .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical and Mental? > > > > > http://home.att.net/~meditation/brain.html .... The brain is essential to human life, and when the brain dies, the entire physical body dies with it. Even in deep sleep the brain is active and aware, and able to direct functions as and when necessary. For example, the brain may create a fearful dream to wake you up if your body is threatened by danger, such as a lack of oxygen due to a difficulty in breathing. The central function of the human brain is awareness. Awareness is required to know things like boundaries, size, limits, identifications, and the sense of self and the sense of the other. Awareness itself has no intrinsic size, boundary limits, or any other attributes of its own. Awareness is required to know all attributes, but awareness itself can be nothing but just plain awareness. That is the pure awareness of meditation. The sense of time, the beginning and the end, the birth and the death, requires memory. Awareness always precedes memory. Awareness serves as the background and base for memory, but memory cannot have any trace of the beginning or end of awareness. This makes awareness feel eternal no matter what the reality. We experience everything in our brain: sound, vision, smell, taste, touch, temperature, pleasure, pain, reason, emotion. Everything we feel and see are signals presented inside the brain, from neuron to neuron, in a web of billions of brain cells. When you look at images of distant stars and galaxies, those pictures are formed inside us, not outside of us. When you realign your focus on the background of consciousness during meditation, you clearly see that all outside images are really inside images. The sensation *I am body* is itself an effort of the brain. Brain is our intimate personal reality, not the body. The brain is able to conjure up the idea of the body by repeated practice and focus. The brain can easily convince itself of being anything it wants. After all, there is no one else inside you to question it. The brain is the one that says " I am this!, " as well as being the final arbitrator of its own validity. Some may focus on a flower and convince themselves that they have experienced " flower consciousness. " Others go further and convince themselves that they are a great savior, saint, or a heroic world leader. Given enough focus and practice, the brain can convince itself of anything, because the brain is the final judge and jury of our perception of reality. Thus, we all live in different brain worlds of our own creation. When those brain worlds collide, conflict and wars arise. The feeling of solidity of the body is generated by the brain constantly sending and receiving signals to and from different organs. The more frequent and stronger the signals, the more solid the body feels. Mediation is a way to relax the brain and quiet down its constant communication with the body and reduce the frequency of thoughts. As the brain relaxes and creates less activity and noise, the feeling *I am the body* starts to dissolve. Scientists now understand through functional magnetic resonance imaging scans (fMRI scans) that the part of the brain which gives us a sense of location in time and space is less active during intense meditation. With no sense of location, consciousness loses its boundaries and subjectively feels infinite and timeless. The body may seem to completely disappear, leaving only pure consciousness in its place. That is death of the 'I.' During deep dreamless sleep, the same dissolution of the 'I' happens, but there is no consciousness to experience it. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > I would say there is more chance of him getting into your knickers than any enlightenment...Tony. > > > > > > > > > When hit by a bullet... both a saint as well as a sinner dies. His/her heart stops, brain stops, mind stops... > > > > > > Having taken a drug... both a saint as well as a sinner is likely to show similar changes. His/her heart beat changes, brain wave changes, emotions change, though change, how he feels too changes... > > > > > > Having taken enough alcohol... both a saint as well as a sinner is likely to show similar changes. His/her heart beat changes, brain wave changes, emotions change, though change, how he feels too changes... > > > > Both a saint as well as sinner can get a DUI when driving under influence. > > > > > > Medicines, drugs, poison, food, drink... bacteria, virus affect saint and sinner similarly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both a saint as well as a sinner can go into deep dreamless sleep... their brain shown similar waves, their mind too enters similar state. > > > > Love can be said to be a mental state... > > yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. > > > > Fear can be said to be a mental state... > > yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. > > > Excitement can be said to be a mental state... > > yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. > > > Joy can be said to be a mental state... > > yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. > > > > Happiness can be said to be a mental state... > > yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. > > > > Peace can be said to be a mental state... > > yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. > > > Deep dreamless can be said to be a mental state... > > yet, it has strong correspondence in body. The heart beats in a certain way, the brain waves have certain pattern and... it has certain hormones associated with it. > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical and Mental? you wouldn't believe it even if you were given by grace the answer. you would only believe what you want to believe. you never know. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical and Mental? > > > > > http://home.att.net/~meditation/Osho.html > > Mr. Calder guy thinks... > > ... > > Functional magnetic resonance imaging scans (fMRI scans) of Tibetan monks and Hindu yogis have shown that during deep meditation the parts of the brain that gives us a sense of location in time and space are less active. If you slow down the thought process, and at the same time reduce the brain's sense of location, consciousness loses both its content and its boundaries. You feel infinite, timeless, and empty. This feeling of an infinite Void gives the false impression that ego no longer exists. Egolessness is an illusion because the ego function is a fundamental part of the basic physical structure of the brain itself. Ego cannot be lost unless your brain dies, which will cause your entire body to die. mr. calder guy doesn't know either. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical and Mental? > > > > > > > > > http://home.att.net/~meditation/Osho.html > > > > Mr. Calder guy thinks... > > > > ... > > > > Functional magnetic resonance imaging scans (fMRI scans) of Tibetan monks and Hindu yogis have shown that during deep meditation the parts of the brain that gives us a sense of location in time and space are less active. If you slow down the thought process, and at the same time reduce the brain's sense of location, consciousness loses both its content and its boundaries. You feel infinite, timeless, and empty. This feeling of an infinite Void gives the false impression that ego no longer exists. Egolessness is an illusion because the ego function is a fundamental part of the basic physical structure of the brain itself. Ego cannot be lost unless your brain dies, which will cause your entire body to die. > > > > > ... > > Rajneesh possessed the power of direct energy transmission, which is known in India as " shaktipat. " He used this power nobly to bring comfort and inspiration to his disciples. > > ... > > > Listening to J. Krishnamurti speak was like eating a sandwich made of bread and sand. I found the best way to enjoy his talks was to completely ignore his words and quietly absorb his presence. Using that technique I would become so expanded after a lecture that I could barely talk for hours afterwards. > > ... > > Whatever term you use for the phenomena of enlightenment, it is scientifically accurate to say that no human being has any power of their own. Even the chemical energy of our metabolism is borrowed from the sun, which beams light to the earth, which is then converted by plants through photosynthesis into the food we eat. You may get your bread from the supermarket, but the caloric energy it contains originated from thermonuclear reactions deep in the center of a nearby star. > > > Our physical bodies run on star power. Any " spiritual " energy we channel also comes from far beyond, from all sides of the universe, from the complete TES, from beyond the oceans of galaxies, and onto infinity. No human being owns the Atman, and no one can speak for the TES. > > ... > > Rajneesh went even further and used his channeled cosmic energy to manipulate masses of people to gain a kind of quasi-political status, and to aggrandize himself far beyond what was honest or helpful to his disciples. that's all rumor perpetuated by dupes. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical and Mental? > > > > > > > > > http://home.att.net/~meditation/brain.html > > ... > > The brain is essential to human life, and when the brain dies, the entire physical body dies with it. Even in deep sleep the brain is active and aware, and able to direct functions as and when necessary. For example, the brain may create a fearful dream to wake you up if your body is threatened by danger, such as a lack of oxygen due to a difficulty in breathing. The central function of the human brain is awareness. Awareness is required to know things like boundaries, size, limits, identifications, and the sense of self and the sense of the other. Awareness itself has no intrinsic size, boundary limits, or any other attributes of its own. Awareness is required to know all attributes, but awareness itself can be nothing but just plain awareness. That is the pure awareness of meditation. > > The sense of time, the beginning and the end, the birth and the death, requires memory. Awareness always precedes memory. Awareness serves as the background and base for memory, but memory cannot have any trace of the beginning or end of awareness. This makes awareness feel eternal no matter what the reality. > > We experience everything in our brain: sound, vision, smell, taste, touch, temperature, pleasure, pain, reason, emotion. Everything we feel and see are signals presented inside the brain, from neuron to neuron, in a web of billions of brain cells. When you look at images of distant stars and galaxies, those pictures are formed inside us, not outside of us. When you realign your focus on the background of consciousness during meditation, you clearly see that all outside images are really inside images. > > The sensation *I am body* is itself an effort of the brain. Brain is our intimate personal reality, not the body. The brain is able to conjure up the idea of the body by repeated practice and focus. The brain can easily convince itself of being anything it wants. After all, there is no one else inside you to question it. The brain is the one that says " I am this!, " as well as being the final arbitrator of its own validity. > > Some may focus on a flower and convince themselves that they have experienced " flower consciousness. " Others go further and convince themselves that they are a great savior, saint, or a heroic world leader. Given enough focus and practice, the brain can convince itself of anything, because the brain is the final judge and jury of our perception of reality. Thus, we all live in different brain worlds of our own creation. When those brain worlds collide, conflict and wars arise. > > The feeling of solidity of the body is generated by the brain constantly sending and receiving signals to and from different organs. The more frequent and stronger the signals, the more solid the body feels. Mediation is a way to relax the brain and quiet down its constant communication with the body and reduce the frequency of thoughts. As the brain relaxes and creates less activity and noise, the feeling *I am the body* starts to dissolve. > > Scientists now understand through functional magnetic resonance imaging scans (fMRI scans) that the part of the brain which gives us a sense of location in time and space is less active during intense meditation. With no sense of location, consciousness loses its boundaries and subjectively feels infinite and timeless. The body may seem to completely disappear, leaving only pure consciousness in its place. That is death of the 'I.' During deep dreamless sleep, the same dissolution of the 'I' happens, but there is no consciousness to experience it. scientists don't know any more than you know. that equals squat. current thought will be overturned in perpetuity. no one " knows " PERIOD. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 [...]> > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical and Mental?> > > >> > > http://www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/HappyHormones.htm4) Now for the last and most elusive of the feel great hormones - Oxytosin. Yes that is the hormone that causes the contractions during labor and expels milk during breast feeding. Oxytosin is the thing responsible for making new moms forget the pains of childbirth and feel only the incredible joy of having her new baby. Most importantlyOxytosin IS THE orgasm hormone. All of the joy, the warm fuzzes and the afterglow of lovemaking all the product of Oxytosin....If you have a sex partner then use the hormone recommendations above and go to it with lust and gusto! The more orgasms you have, the more Oxytosin you make, its that simple! For those of you without sex partners, treat yourself to some one sided love making sessions. A very wise and caring female physical therapist I know once gently led an older woman fibromyalgia patient to the office bathroom, whispered in her ear and handed her a vibrator! Oxytosin release was the objective; a happier and less painful patient was the result. There is enough erotica out there, written, audio and visual to stimulate the solo practitioner. There are enough techniques and toys available for masturbation that the Oxytosin release results can be fruitful and fulfilling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical > and Mental? > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/HappyHormones.htm > <http://www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/HappyHormones.ht\ > m> > 4) Now for the last and most elusive of the feel great hormones - > Oxytosin. Yes that is the hormone that causes the contractions during > labor and expels milk during breast feeding. Oxytosin is the thing > responsible for making new moms forget the pains of childbirth and feel > only the incredible joy of having her new baby. Most > importantlyOxytosin IS THE orgasm hormone. All of the joy, the warm > fuzzes and the afterglow of lovemaking all the product of Oxytosin. > ... > > > If you have a sex partner then use the hormone recommendations above and > go to it with lust and gusto! The more orgasms you have, the more > Oxytosin you make, its that simple! For those of you without sex > partners, treat yourself to some one sided love making sessions. A very > wise and caring female physical therapist I know once gently led an > older woman fibromyalgia patient to the office bathroom, whispered in > her ear and handed her a vibrator! Oxytosin release was the objective; > a happier and less painful patient was the result. There is enough > erotica out there, written, audio and visual to stimulate the solo > practitioner. There are enough techniques and toys available for > masturbation that the Oxytosin release results can be fruitful and > fulfilling. you need help. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , "ac" <adithya_comming wrote:>> [...]> > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical> and Mental?> > > > >> > > >> Happiness can be said to be a mental state, but...http://english.pravda.ru/society/sex/14-12-2007/102858-sex_happiness_hormone-0...Scientists say that sex launches powerful and diverse biochemical processes in a human body. Sex stimulates the production of hormones that give pleasure (dopamine) and lighten your mood (serotonin). An act of love also produces endorphins - so called hormones of happiness – that bring a human being into a state of euphoria during orgasm. Because of these psychotropic substances sex is considered to be the best antidepressant and tranquilizer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , "ac" <adithya_comming wrote:>> > Nisargadatta , "ac" adithya_comming@ wrote:> >> > [...]> > > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical> > and Mental?> > > > > >> > > > >> >> > Happiness can be said to be a mental state, and...> http://www.ramanameditation.com/Every living being longs to be perpetually happy, without any misery. Since in everyone the highest love is alone felt for oneself, and since happiness alone is the cause of love, in order to attain that happiness, which is one's real nature and which is experienced daily in the mindless state of deep sleep, it is necessary to know oneself. To achieve that, enquiry in the form `Who am I?' is the foremost means....`Who am I?' The physical body, composed of the seven dhatus, is not `I'. The five sense organs� and the five types of perception known through the senses� are not `I'. The five parts of the body which act� and their functions� are not `I'. The five vital airs such asprana, which perform the five vital functions such as respiration, are not `I'. Even the mind that thinks is not `I'. In the state of deep sleep vishaya vasanas remain. Devoid of sensory knowledge and activity, even this [state] is not `I'. After negating all of the above as `not I, not I', the knowledge that alone remains is itself `I'. The nature of knowledge is sat-chit-ananda[being-consciousness-bliss]....If one goes on examining the nature of the mind, it will finally be discovered that [what was taken to be] the mind is really only one's self. That which is called one's self is really Atman, one's real nature. The mind always depends for its existence on something tangible. It cannot subsist by itself. It is the mind that is called sukshma sarira [the subtle body] or jiva [the soul]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 > Listening to J. Krishnamurti speak was like eating a sandwich made of bread and sand. I found the best way to enjoy his talks was to completely ignore his words and quietly absorb his presence. Using that technique I would become so expanded after a lecture that I could barely talk for hours afterwards. ROFLOL! I know what you mean ... Nice message all in all - most elucidating My first " spiritual " book was one of Rajneesh's and I found it most exciting an wanted more and more and give me more! & I forgot all about him and the years went by. One fine day, when with a couple of other drama queens I heard them talk of one " Osho " had died and they almost shed tears & were so sad for so is it with drama-queens. It is what they do you see or should I say we? I laughed and giggled and could not stop and that was the expiration of my admiration for Rajneesh. -Lene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > Is Enlightenment too similarly Mental and Physical... Physical > > and Mental? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/HappyHormones.htm > > <http://www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/HappyHormones.ht\ > > m> > > 4) Now for the last and most elusive of the feel great hormones - > > Oxytosin. Yes that is the hormone that causes the contractions during > > labor and expels milk during breast feeding. Oxytosin is the thing > > responsible for making new moms forget the pains of childbirth and feel > > only the incredible joy of having her new baby. Most > > importantlyOxytosin IS THE orgasm hormone. All of the joy, the warm > > fuzzes and the afterglow of lovemaking all the product of Oxytosin. > > ... > > > > > > If you have a sex partner then use the hormone recommendations above and > > go to it with lust and gusto! The more orgasms you have, the more > > Oxytosin you make, its that simple! For those of you without sex > > partners, treat yourself to some one sided love making sessions. A very > > wise and caring female physical therapist I know once gently led an > > older woman fibromyalgia patient to the office bathroom, whispered in > > her ear and handed her a vibrator! Oxytosin release was the objective; > > a happier and less painful patient was the result. There is enough > > erotica out there, written, audio and visual to stimulate the solo > > practitioner. There are enough techniques and toys available for > > masturbation that the Oxytosin release results can be fruitful and > > fulfilling. > > > you need help. > > .b b.b. ROFLMAO > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 - Lene Nisargadatta Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:44 AM Re: Is enlightenment Mental Or Physical... or, Both? > Listening to J. Krishnamurti speak was like eating a sandwich made of > bread and sand. I found the best way to enjoy his talks was to completely > ignore his words and quietly absorb his presence. Using that technique I > would become so expanded after a lecture that I could barely talk for > hours afterwards. ROFLOL! I know what you mean ... Nice message all in all - most elucidating My first " spiritual " book was one of Rajneesh's and I found it most exciting an wanted more and more and give me more! & I forgot all about him and the years went by. One fine day, when with a couple of other drama queens I heard them talk of one " Osho " had died and.... geo: ....then... it seems they found hidden cameras in all bathrooms of his " hotel " , where he arranged the couples that should meet. (when I was younger that was the part I liked about his religion). I saw a video of him distributing plastic flowers to some crying followers...with a benevolent smile in his sacred lips... (in one of his RRs). Then I read him saying he could " initiate " anyone if he wanted to.....but it was better that the person did it by himself. That was the last I read from him. May he rest in peace.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Lene > Nisargadatta > Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:44 AM > Re: Is enlightenment Mental Or Physical... or, Both? > > > > > Listening to J. Krishnamurti speak was like eating a sandwich made of > > bread and sand. I found the best way to enjoy his talks was to completely > > ignore his words and quietly absorb his presence. Using that technique I > > would become so expanded after a lecture that I could barely talk for > > hours afterwards. > > ROFLOL! > > I know what you mean ... > > Nice message all in all - most elucidating > > My first " spiritual " book was one of Rajneesh's > and I found it most exciting an wanted more and > more and give me more! > > & I forgot all about him and the years went by. > > One fine day, when with a couple of other drama > queens I heard them talk of one " Osho " had died > and.... > > geo: ....then... it seems they found hidden cameras in all bathrooms of his > " hotel " , where he arranged the couples that should meet. (when I was younger > that was the part I liked about his religion). LOL - now that you mention it ahem ) > I saw a video of him distributing plastic flowers to some crying > followers...with a benevolent smile in his sacred lips... (in one of his > RRs). > Then I read him saying he could " initiate " anyone if he wanted to.....but it > was better that the person did it by himself. That was the last I read from > him. > May he rest in peace.... Greatest hits never die - you know -- died Elvis? I have heard say that Rajneesh died but Osho is still alive and fit. ROFLOL -letitia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Lene > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:44 AM > > Re: Is enlightenment Mental Or Physical... or, Both? > > > > > > > > > Listening to J. Krishnamurti speak was like eating a sandwich made of > > > bread and sand. I found the best way to enjoy his talks was to completely > > > ignore his words and quietly absorb his presence. Using that technique I > > > would become so expanded after a lecture that I could barely talk for > > > hours afterwards. > > > > ROFLOL! > > > > I know what you mean ... > > > > Nice message all in all - most elucidating > > > > My first " spiritual " book was one of Rajneesh's > > and I found it most exciting an wanted more and > > more and give me more! > > > > & I forgot all about him and the years went by. > > > > One fine day, when with a couple of other drama > > queens I heard them talk of one " Osho " had died > > and.... > > > > geo: ....then... it seems they found hidden cameras in all bathrooms of his > > " hotel " , where he arranged the couples that should meet. (when I was younger > > that was the part I liked about his religion). > > > > LOL - now that you mention it ahem ) > > > > > I saw a video of him distributing plastic flowers to some crying > > followers...with a benevolent smile in his sacred lips... (in one of his > > RRs). > > Then I read him saying he could " initiate " anyone if he wanted to.....but it > > was better that the person did it by himself. That was the last I read from > > him. > > May he rest in peace.... > > > > Greatest hits never die - you know -- died Elvis? I have > heard say that Rajneesh died but Osho is still alive and > fit. > > ROFLOL > > -letitia right. Osho didn't die. he just smells that way. what a cowboy! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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