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> Osho died... and, I could never meet him.

>

>

 

Searching for Osho on Internet led me to Mr. Clader. For the large part, I

believed what I read of Mr. Calder. Mr. Calder also said this:

 

 

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20040611074639/home.att.net/~meditation/seven.html

 

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4) The fourth stage has been called the " mental body " and subjectively feels

larger than the third. Subjectively, the fourth feels oceanic and is filled

with more intense energy and light than the third. The fourth is highly

projective and is the instrument of clarity, imagination, and vivid dreams. The

greatest artists of history have been awakened to the fourth stage and drew

inspiration and energy from its depths. Frank Lloyd Wright was an obvious

example of a fourth stage artist and architect. His homes radiate the mysteries

of higher consciousness and celebrate man's intimate connection with nature.

Many people love Frank Lloyd Wright's homes but cannot comprehend what is so

unique about them. The answer lies in his depth of consciousness which he

gracefully expressed in wood, stone, and art glass.

 

Those who reach the fourth stage often imagine they are enlightened and

become even more arrogant and selfish than they were before attaining it. Most

Indian and Tibetan gurus and contemporary Japanese " Zen masters " are in this

fourth stage, and that is why most are not very helpful to their own students.

The potential for ego inflation is difficult to resist but can be fought off by

remembering that the fourth stage is relatively easy to attain and there are

thousands of mid-level fourth stage students in the world at any given time.

The fourth stage can be achieved by the use of methodology if a student makes a

sincere effort over a long period of time. While there is nothing unusual about

entering this expanded state of consciousness, it does take us one step closer

to true wakefulness.

 

5) Going beyond the fourth stage to the fifth level is the truly difficult task

for students of meditation. Those who attain the fifth stage are said to have

reached the first level of self-realization. To reach the fifth one must

journey upwards, not just outwards, and this higher plane facilitates a

continuous state of superconsciousness. The fourth can be described as an ocean

of light that is highly projective. The fifth is an absolutely non-projective

layer of energy that is just beyond that ocean of light, beyond the thought

process, and beyond the human mind. Subjectively, the fifth feels like an

infinity of warm and comfortable darkness that softly envelopes the mind ocean.

The fifth stage is the last and final layer of our individual personal being.

 

The Total Awareness method described in Meditation Handbook is a means by

which students of meditation who are in the fourth stage can gain reliable

glimpses of the fifth. A glimpse of the fifth is called a satori, a temporary

peak at self-realization. Many students confuse the blissfulness of the third

and fourth stages they experience during meditation sessions with satori, which

is a much more rare phenomena. Even to experience an authentic satori is

relatively easy. To live in satori, the fifth stage, is relatively impossible.

It is almost like the difference between visiting Hawaii and actually owning

Hawaii.

 

I envy those who have attained the fifth permanently because the fifth

stage is the first comfortable level of consciousness where one truly feels at

home. Until the fifth is attained we live as strangers to ourselves because we

have not yet come home to our essential being. Until the fifth we do not know

our " original face " and thus we suffer greatly.

 

6) The sixth stage of consciousness has been called the " cosmic body " and is

said to be discovered through a jump from all that is human into all that is

beyond. The sixth is described as the same size as the physical universe and

its realization is beyond the limits of mind. This is the " uncharted " and

" pathless " territory that Jiddu Krishnamurti spoke about so intensely. Those

who attain the sixth stage attract energy from all sides of the universe and

pass that energy through like a clear lens. The 'enlightenment' is not in our

small human brains, but in the cosmic force that passes through us untouched.

 

Claims made by some gurus that the higher levels of consciousness make one

capable of time travel are false. All seven stages and all of life exists only

in the here and now. Even a full Buddha is not capable of seeing into the

future in any magical way beyond ordinary reasonable guesses. Unfortunately,

there is much self-promotion in the world of gurus which often leads to

exaggeration. Likewise, such often claimed powers as the ability to materialize

matter and the attainment of an all-seeing infallible wisdom are equally

fictitious. Human beings in the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh stages often

do have the authentic powers of telepathy and direct energy transmission.

 

7) The seventh stage is said to be beyond size and form and is the limitless

void from which all is born. The seventh stage is known as 'nirvana' and

'moksha' (example - see Ramana Maharshi).

 

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well you're just hell bent on acting like a little brat.

 

and pretending to be some holy little shithead.

 

i know you like to think that your shit don't stink..

 

but it do yes it do yes it do do do.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

 

and you're not fooling anyone but your silly ass self nerd.

 

but say!

 

i like that,

 

:-)

 

[.bx3]

 

 

 

 

 

 

...................same ignorant crap below that ac loves..............

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

> [...]

>

> > Osho died... and, I could never meet him.

> >

> >

>

> Searching for Osho on Internet led me to Mr. Clader. For the large part, I

believed what I read of Mr. Calder. Mr. Calder also said this:

>

>

>

> http://web.archive.org/web/20040611074639/home.att.net/~meditation/seven.html

>

> ...

>

>

> 4) The fourth stage has been called the " mental body " and subjectively feels

larger than the third. Subjectively, the fourth feels oceanic and is filled

with more intense energy and light than the third. The fourth is highly

projective and is the instrument of clarity, imagination, and vivid dreams. The

greatest artists of history have been awakened to the fourth stage and drew

inspiration and energy from its depths. Frank Lloyd Wright was an obvious

example of a fourth stage artist and architect. His homes radiate the mysteries

of higher consciousness and celebrate man's intimate connection with nature.

Many people love Frank Lloyd Wright's homes but cannot comprehend what is so

unique about them. The answer lies in his depth of consciousness which he

gracefully expressed in wood, stone, and art glass.

>

> Those who reach the fourth stage often imagine they are enlightened and

become even more arrogant and selfish than they were before attaining it. Most

Indian and Tibetan gurus and contemporary Japanese " Zen masters " are in this

fourth stage, and that is why most are not very helpful to their own students.

The potential for ego inflation is difficult to resist but can be fought off by

remembering that the fourth stage is relatively easy to attain and there are

thousands of mid-level fourth stage students in the world at any given time.

The fourth stage can be achieved by the use of methodology if a student makes a

sincere effort over a long period of time. While there is nothing unusual about

entering this expanded state of consciousness, it does take us one step closer

to true wakefulness.

>

> 5) Going beyond the fourth stage to the fifth level is the truly difficult

task for students of meditation. Those who attain the fifth stage are said to

have reached the first level of self-realization. To reach the fifth one must

journey upwards, not just outwards, and this higher plane facilitates a

continuous state of superconsciousness. The fourth can be described as an ocean

of light that is highly projective. The fifth is an absolutely non-projective

layer of energy that is just beyond that ocean of light, beyond the thought

process, and beyond the human mind. Subjectively, the fifth feels like an

infinity of warm and comfortable darkness that softly envelopes the mind ocean.

The fifth stage is the last and final layer of our individual personal being.

>

> The Total Awareness method described in Meditation Handbook is a means by

which students of meditation who are in the fourth stage can gain reliable

glimpses of the fifth. A glimpse of the fifth is called a satori, a temporary

peak at self-realization. Many students confuse the blissfulness of the third

and fourth stages they experience during meditation sessions with satori, which

is a much more rare phenomena. Even to experience an authentic satori is

relatively easy. To live in satori, the fifth stage, is relatively impossible.

It is almost like the difference between visiting Hawaii and actually owning

Hawaii.

>

> I envy those who have attained the fifth permanently because the fifth

stage is the first comfortable level of consciousness where one truly feels at

home. Until the fifth is attained we live as strangers to ourselves because we

have not yet come home to our essential being. Until the fifth we do not know

our " original face " and thus we suffer greatly.

>

> 6) The sixth stage of consciousness has been called the " cosmic body " and is

said to be discovered through a jump from all that is human into all that is

beyond. The sixth is described as the same size as the physical universe and

its realization is beyond the limits of mind. This is the " uncharted " and

" pathless " territory that Jiddu Krishnamurti spoke about so intensely. Those

who attain the sixth stage attract energy from all sides of the universe and

pass that energy through like a clear lens. The 'enlightenment' is not in our

small human brains, but in the cosmic force that passes through us untouched.

>

> Claims made by some gurus that the higher levels of consciousness make

one capable of time travel are false. All seven stages and all of life exists

only in the here and now. Even a full Buddha is not capable of seeing into the

future in any magical way beyond ordinary reasonable guesses. Unfortunately,

there is much self-promotion in the world of gurus which often leads to

exaggeration. Likewise, such often claimed powers as the ability to materialize

matter and the attainment of an all-seeing infallible wisdom are equally

fictitious. Human beings in the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh stages often

do have the authentic powers of telepathy and direct energy transmission.

>

> 7) The seventh stage is said to be beyond size and form and is the limitless

void from which all is born. The seventh stage is known as 'nirvana' and

'moksha' (example - see Ramana Maharshi).

>

> ...

>

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