Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 [...] > Osho's logic appealed to me. I found his oratory very captivating and his methods pretty simple and efficient. I had no hope or wish for enlightenment or jnana or of finding out " Who Am I? " . But, I enjoyed meditation immensely and I greatly enjoyed the expanded feeling and some 'body-less-ness' that meditation generated. I also greatly enjoyed the Clarity, Love and " lack of fear " that came out of Meditation! > > Meditation that Osho taught was mostly mental. Largely, it was just being a detached witness to thoughts and to watch them silently without wanting them to continue or stop. This lead to thoughts start thinning slowly and to ultimately disappear or greatly lessen. This would remove anguish and would lead to peace. The Consciousness would feel expanded. The body too would feel very relaxed and sometimes, 'blissed out'. Though, the mediation was largely mental... its effect was Mental as well as Physical. On the other hand, while drinking alcohol is a " physical " act... its affects are both Physical... and, Mental! While taking anesthetics is a " physical " act... its affects are both Physical... and, Mental! While taking drugs is a " physical " act... its affects are both Physical... and, Mental! [Maybe, ultimately... physical and mental is not that different] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine .... Ketamine produces a dissociative state, characterised by a sense of detachment from one's physical body and the external world which is known as depersonalization and derealization.[73] At sufficiently high doses (e.g. 150 mg intramuscular), users may experience what is coined the " K-hole " , a state of dissociation whose effects are thought to mimic the phenomenology of schizophrenia.[74] Users may experience worlds or dimensions that are ineffable, all the while being completely unaware of their individual identities or the external world. Users have reported intense hallucinations including visual hallucinations, perceptions of falling, fast and gradual movement and flying, 'seeing God', feeling connected to other users, objects and the cosmos, experiencing psychic connections, and shared hallucinations and thoughts with adjacent users. ... Users may feel as though their perceptions are located so deep inside the mind that the real world seems distant (hence the use of a " hole " to describe the experience). Some users may not remember this part of the experience after regaining consciousness, in the same way that a person may forget a dream. Owing to the role of the NMDA receptor in long-term potentiation, this may be due to disturbances in memory formation. The " re-integration " process is slow, and the user gradually becomes aware of surroundings. At first, users may not remember their own names, or even know that they are human, or what that means. Movement is extremely difficult, and... >>>>>> a user may not be aware that he or she has a body at all. <<<<<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 > > Meditation that Osho taught was mostly mental. > > Largely, it was just being a detached witness to thoughts and to watch them silently without wanting them to continue or stop. This lead to thoughts start thinning slowly and to ultimately disappear or greatly lessen. This would remove anguish and would lead to peace. The Consciousness would feel expanded. The body too would feel very relaxed and sometimes, 'blissed out'. > > > Though, the mediation was largely mental... its effect was Mental as well as Physical. Having erotic thoughts is largely a mental act... yet, its affects of erection as well as fluid secretion are Physical. Reading an erotic story is largely a mental act... yet, its affects of erection as well as fluid secretion are Physical. Watching pornography story is largely a mental act... yet, its affects of erection as well as fluid secretion are Physical. .... on the other hand, ORGASM is physical... but, it results not only in a relaxed body, but, also in peaceful, blissed out and relaxed mind. We see again and again that physical and mental are not that separate, really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 LOL! just like i said! thanks cutie. :-) ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > Osho's logic appealed to me. I found his oratory very captivating and his methods pretty simple and efficient. I had no hope or wish for enlightenment or jnana or of finding out " Who Am I? " . But, I enjoyed meditation immensely and I greatly enjoyed the expanded feeling and some 'body-less-ness' that meditation generated. I also greatly enjoyed the Clarity, Love and " lack of fear " that came out of Meditation! > > > > > > Meditation that Osho taught was mostly mental. > > Largely, it was just being a detached witness to thoughts and to watch them silently without wanting them to continue or stop. This lead to thoughts start thinning slowly and to ultimately disappear or greatly lessen. This would remove anguish and would lead to peace. The Consciousness would feel expanded. The body too would feel very relaxed and sometimes, 'blissed out'. > > > Though, the mediation was largely mental... its effect was Mental as well as Physical. > > > On the other hand, while drinking alcohol is a " physical " act... its affects are both Physical... and, Mental! > > While taking anesthetics is a " physical " act... its affects are both Physical... and, Mental! > > While taking drugs is a " physical " act... its affects are both Physical... and, Mental! > > > [Maybe, ultimately... physical and mental is not that different] > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine > > ... > > > Ketamine produces a dissociative state, characterised by a sense of detachment from one's physical body and the external world which is known as depersonalization and derealization.[73] At sufficiently high doses (e.g. 150 mg intramuscular), users may experience what is coined the " K-hole " , a state of dissociation whose effects are thought to mimic the phenomenology of schizophrenia.[74] Users may experience worlds or dimensions that are ineffable, all the while being completely unaware of their individual identities or the external world. Users have reported intense hallucinations including visual hallucinations, perceptions of falling, fast and gradual movement and flying, 'seeing God', feeling connected to other users, objects and the cosmos, experiencing psychic connections, and shared hallucinations and thoughts with adjacent users. ... > > > > Users may feel as though their perceptions are located so deep inside the mind that the real world seems distant (hence the use of a " hole " to describe the experience). Some users may not remember this part of the experience after regaining consciousness, in the same way that a person may forget a dream. Owing to the role of the NMDA receptor in long-term potentiation, this may be due to disturbances in memory formation. The " re-integration " process is slow, and the user gradually becomes aware of surroundings. At first, users may not remember their own names, or even know that they are human, or what that means. Movement is extremely difficult, and... > > > >>>>>> a user may not be aware that he or she has a body at all. <<<<<<< > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa! give us a couple more. you seem to like twosies. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > > > > Meditation that Osho taught was mostly mental. > > > > Largely, it was just being a detached witness to thoughts and to watch them silently without wanting them to continue or stop. This lead to thoughts start thinning slowly and to ultimately disappear or greatly lessen. This would remove anguish and would lead to peace. The Consciousness would feel expanded. The body too would feel very relaxed and sometimes, 'blissed out'. > > > > > > Though, the mediation was largely mental... its effect was Mental as well as Physical. > > > > Having erotic thoughts is largely a mental act... yet, its affects of erection as well as fluid secretion are Physical. > > > > Reading an erotic story is largely a mental act... yet, its affects of erection as well as fluid secretion are Physical. > > > Watching pornography story is largely a mental act... yet, its affects of erection as well as fluid secretion are Physical. > > > ... > > > on the other hand, ORGASM is physical... but, it results not only in a relaxed body, but, also in peaceful, blissed out and relaxed mind. > > > We see again and again that physical and mental are not that separate, really. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgasm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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