Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 A walking elephant doesn't stop to tell each barking dog that it doesn't care! Its very act of " not stopping to respond " indicates that it is not that affected by the barking of dogs. On the other hand... Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > well thanx ac. > > > > > > that's a nice slice. > > > > > > You have been quite good in this reply too! > > > > (.b b.b.) > > oh that means so much to me. I thought so. > > like hell it does. > > are you serious? Yes. > > > > > but really really i don't care what happens. > > > > Based on what you write and how react to posts regarding your " removal " , it doesn't appear that way. > > > > I respect honest people more, even if they show themselves to be vulnerable. > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > uh ac.. > > show me where i've cowered to the threat of removal.. > > show me where i've changed any aspect of my behavior towards anyone.. > > show me where i've been dishonest about my feelings.. Is it reasonable to expect a liar to admit to lying? Is it reasonable to expect someone dishonest to admit to being dishonest. > > but i don't give a shit if you respect me or not.. I do. Currently, I don't have that much time or 'need' that I can afford to use my time communicating with someone whom can't trust to have basic honesty. > so i'll just not bother displaying phony vulnerability. You do display vulnerability. If you admit to it, you will display honesty and courage too. If just being abusive was the true mark of 'courage', Gandhi would have been among the most cowardice person ever born. However, that is not really the case. > > in fact ac.. > > i like you not liking me. It is not that I 'dislike' you, just like I don't dislike sugar or salt. Still, I like my coffee with only one spoon of sugar and not twnety. I like my soup with only one spoon of salt and not twenty. Curently, you are generating so much volume on this group that you are drowning all other flavors. > > i'm choosy when it comes to who i would have as a crony. > I guess everyone is that way, by default. > > > > > > this is one of the few things i really mean. > > > > > > if a sanctum sanctorum is what you want. > > > > > > go for it and cast your vote for my removal. > > > > I think your volume is a much bigger problem than what you really write. If you were to self-moderate yourself and limit yourself to about 6 posts a day, I think it will be less of an issue. Excess is the issue currently as it is pretty much drowning the entire list in only one flavor... Bob's flavor. And, if most of these messages have same thing... that becomes a bigger issue. > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > when people stop writing to me or about me.. > > i'll slow down. > > show me an initiated posting of mine of late. > > there aren't any homie. > > and i guess i'm just not rude enough to not reply.. > > to posts directed at me.. > > or to respond tho posts about me. I have seen you reply to many posts which had no reference of you and did not seem directed to you. I have seen you reply to many posts which had no reference to you and were not directed to you. > > what do you take me for? So far, I have assumed you to be an intelligent, mature, responsible, successful individual with enough common sense and honesty. Do you want to prove me wrong? [...] > > > > Having fun is fine but, maybe, like thoughts, " fun " too is greatly overrated... and, never " really questioned " ! > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > oh i guess we should strive for dour and somber depressive holiness. > > well you can take that and shove it where no sun shines sunshine. > > sorry but i'll take fun if not romance. I am not concerned with what you choose to do in your private life. I am concerned with what you do on this list. This list doesn't need to be exclusively about 'Bob Having Fun'. If it was, Hur might have named it 'BobsFunZone'. > > > > > > > Maybe, the main purpose behind this list is not for Bob to have fun. > > > > (.b b.b.): > > baba never said it was. > > but that won't stop him from doing what he does best. > > you see ac.. > > .b b.b. is purposeless. > > and therefore doesn't stand behind anything or anyone. > > and doggone it that's flat out fun. > > what you gonna do? Ask... what will Hur do? This list is not so much " my " responsiblity as it is Hur's. > > > > > Maybe, that is not 'why' Hur started this list or run it. Maybe, running a list so that 'Bob can have fun' is not on the top of Hur's agenda. > > > If you don't care about your fellow posters and readers, at least show some care, concern and respect for the list owner and moderator. > > > > Moderating a list is not an easy task especially if Hur has a job or if he has something else going in his life. I think if you can self-moderate yourself and keep your posts to about 6 a day, it will not be an issue. (.b b.b.) > > Hur is perfectly capable of speaking for himself son. Yes, and, Hur has spoken... By posting and by starting a poll... I think Hur has made it clear that he wants to know what list members think should be done with Bob! Best, ac [...] > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Werner: > > > > > > > > I think Hur knows what this list is about, what it represents and what he wants to happen here. I think he can take a suitable decision on his own. > > > > > > > > Running a list is not that easy and many lists fail due to lack of participation. Bob is one of the most regular, most consistent poster here. He replies to almost every post and he writes pretty much same thing in response to every post. Granted that much of what he writes is quite abusive, repetitive and insulting... but, at least he writes. Without him, the volume is likely to go down considerably. Many folks might come and go and might stop posting when they get busy with other things in here. My guess that with Bob that is unlikely to be a concern. He probably has all the time and has little to no chance of leaving the list, stop posting or decrease his posting because of anything else in his life. > > > > > > > > Thus, I think it might be risky to try to remove Bob. You remove on regular volume poster who replies to almost every post and other posters get busy with something else in life are unable to post - what then? As long as Bob is here he can keep the volume up. Therefore, it might be in list's interest to keep him. However, it might more accurate to rename this list temporarily to " BobsVille " or something similar to truly represent its current flavor. Bob is currently the most dominant voice on this forum because of his volume and he because he has the ability to use filthiest and most abusive and insulting language of all current posters. He is undisputed winner of the current 'contest'. Also, as long as Bob's flavor is the 'main theme' here, it might also be more accurate ro replace Nisargadatta's poto on the front-page with Bob's and change the description with Bob's messages. I think any of his message will do, because, most of them are pretty much SAME and even have same words. If needed names in the message can be removed before posting it in the group's description. For example: > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================== > > > > > > > > you wouldn't know. > > > > > > > > 0000000000000hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa0000000000000000000000000000\ \ > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > listen stupid.. > > > > > > > > nothing can actually " fill a void " . > > > > > > > > a speck of nothing at all eliminates and negates a void. > > > > > > > > you suffer a vapid life my child. > > > > > > > > what a creep that you don't see a joke when it's right in your face. > > > > > > > > sorry dabbo.. > > > > > > > > this is too ridiculous to even pretend to have fun with. > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > dabbo you just can't take it that's all. > > > > > > > > grow up kid. > > > > > > > > what pretense of being enlightened do you speak of? > > > > > > > > there's no such thing as enlightenment ding-a-ling. > > > > > > > > that's what i've been saying all along. > > > > > > > > and uhm..that means for baba too nutzoid. > > > > > > > > but you..you little nitwit...only listen to your own sad story. > > > > > > > > the filla from manila! > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > buck up sonny. > > > > > > > > it's all for fun. > > > > > > > > it's a game stupid. > > > > > > > > (and don't feel so abused as that little self you deny) > > > > > > > > don't take it nor yourself so seriously. > > > > > > > > your being supercilious and super silly too. > > > > > > > > chill out. > > > > > > > > just because i won't let you get away with.. > > > > > > > > your phony guru wisdom act.. > > > > > > > > don't get snippy. > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter kid. > > > > > > > > all of your bullshit is as insignificant as you are. > > > > > > > > i rejoice in this: > > > > > > > > undistinguished.. > > > > > > > > unimportant.. > > > > > > > > tenuous nonmeaningful and superficial nonsense.. > > > > > > > > named baba and the " life " . > > > > > > > > you just can't fact the total blankness of it all. > > > > > > > > too bad. > > > > > > > > but you'll not make a silk purse out of a sow's ear dabbo. > > > > > > > > it's a meaningless piece of shit. > > > > > > > > all of your preachment and holier than thou bullshit.. > > > > > > > > will get you absolutely nothing but more of my derision. > > > > > > > > and that means nothing either. > > > > > > > > relax little you dumb little wannabe guru. > > > > > > > > you've got nothing to lose.. > > > > > > > > and absolutely nothing to gain. > > > > > > > > so cut the bullshit..chill..laugh a little.. > > > > > > > > and quit being a smarmy little asshole. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > May I remind you that the end of this month the voting for removing Bob > > > > > from this list will end. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, the pro-voters don't want to leave Bob because he somehow is > > > > > entertaining (as long he is attacking someone else) but he also is an > > > > > indication what this list is about: > > > > > > > > > > Mindless entertainment and fun. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Responses Choices Votes % 1 reply Respondents Let him > > > > > ramble 10 90 > > > > > marktimmins60@ > > > > > unclesophie@ > > > > > dennis_travis33@ > > > > > adithya_comming@ > > > > > methusalum@ > > > > > Roberibus111@ > > > > > pedsie6@ > > > > > fewtch@ > > > > > lschwabe@ > > > > > kailashana@ > > > > > Remove him 1 9 > > > > > wwoehr@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 A walking elephant doesn't stop to tell each barking dog that it doesn't care! Its very act of " not stopping to respond " indicates that it is not that affected by the barking of dogs. On the other hand... -ac- May a tell you something? Forget bbb and just do your stuff. Say your stuff. Write your stuff. Forget him. Forget. Stop being hysterical about it. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > A walking elephant doesn't stop to tell each barking dog that it doesn't care! > > Its very act of " not stopping to respond " indicates that it is not that affected by the barking of dogs. > > > On the other hand... > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > well thanx ac. > > > > > > > > that's a nice slice. > > > > > > > > > You have been quite good in this reply too! > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.) > > > > oh that means so much to me. > > I thought so. > > > > > > like hell it does. > > > > are you serious? > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > but really really i don't care what happens. > > > > > > Based on what you write and how react to posts regarding your " removal " , it doesn't appear that way. > > > > > > I respect honest people more, even if they show themselves to be vulnerable. > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > uh ac.. > > > > show me where i've cowered to the threat of removal.. > > > > show me where i've changed any aspect of my behavior towards anyone.. > > > > show me where i've been dishonest about my feelings.. > > > Is it reasonable to expect a liar to admit to lying? > > Is it reasonable to expect someone dishonest to admit to being dishonest. > > > > > > but i don't give a shit if you respect me or not.. > > > I do. > > Currently, I don't have that much time or 'need' that I can afford to use my time communicating with someone whom can't trust to have basic honesty. > > > > > so i'll just not bother displaying phony vulnerability. > > > You do display vulnerability. If you admit to it, you will display honesty and courage too. > > > If just being abusive was the true mark of 'courage', Gandhi would have been among the most cowardice person ever born. However, that is not really the case. > > > > > > > > in fact ac.. > > > > i like you not liking me. > > > It is not that I 'dislike' you, just like I don't dislike sugar or salt. Still, I like my coffee with only one spoon of sugar and not twnety. I like my soup with only one spoon of salt and not twenty. > > Curently, you are generating so much volume on this group that you are drowning all other flavors. > > > > > > i'm choosy when it comes to who i would have as a crony. > > > > > I guess everyone is that way, by default. > > > > > > > > > > > > this is one of the few things i really mean. > > > > > > > > if a sanctum sanctorum is what you want. > > > > > > > > go for it and cast your vote for my removal. > > > > > > I think your volume is a much bigger problem than what you really write. If you were to self-moderate yourself and limit yourself to about 6 posts a day, I think it will be less of an issue. Excess is the issue currently as it is pretty much drowning the entire list in only one flavor... Bob's flavor. And, if most of these messages have same thing... that becomes a bigger issue. > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > when people stop writing to me or about me.. > > > > i'll slow down. > > > > show me an initiated posting of mine of late. > > > > there aren't any homie. > > > > and i guess i'm just not rude enough to not reply.. > > > > to posts directed at me.. > > > > or to respond tho posts about me. > > > > I have seen you reply to many posts which had no reference of you and did not seem directed to you. I have seen you reply to many posts which had no reference to you and were not directed to you. > > > > > > > > what do you take me for? > > > So far, I have assumed you to be an intelligent, mature, responsible, successful individual with enough common sense and honesty. > > Do you want to prove me wrong? > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > Having fun is fine but, maybe, like thoughts, " fun " too is greatly overrated... and, never " really questioned " ! > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > oh i guess we should strive for dour and somber depressive holiness. > > > > well you can take that and shove it where no sun shines sunshine. > > > > sorry but i'll take fun if not romance. > > > > I am not concerned with what you choose to do in your private life. I am concerned with what you do on this list. This list doesn't need to be exclusively about 'Bob Having Fun'. If it was, Hur might have named it 'BobsFunZone'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, the main purpose behind this list is not for Bob to have fun. > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > baba never said it was. > > > > but that won't stop him from doing what he does best. > > > > you see ac.. > > > > .b b.b. is purposeless. > > > > and therefore doesn't stand behind anything or anyone. > > > > and doggone it that's flat out fun. > > > > what you gonna do? > > > > Ask... what will Hur do? > > > This list is not so much " my " responsiblity as it is Hur's. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, that is not 'why' Hur started this list or run it. Maybe, running a list so that 'Bob can have fun' is not on the top of Hur's agenda. > > > > > If you don't care about your fellow posters and readers, at least show some care, concern and respect for the list owner and moderator. > > > > > > Moderating a list is not an easy task especially if Hur has a job or if he has something else going in his life. I think if you can self-moderate yourself and keep your posts to about 6 a day, it will not be an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.) > > > > Hur is perfectly capable of speaking for himself son. > > > Yes, and, Hur has spoken... > > > By posting and by starting a poll... > > > I think Hur has made it clear that he wants to know what list members think should be done with Bob! > > > Best, > ac oh grow the f*ck up. don't just throw up. you're spending way too much time in this kid. get a life you little loser. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > A walking elephant doesn't stop to tell each barking dog that it doesn't > care! > > Its very act of " not stopping to respond " indicates that it is not that > affected by the barking of dogs. > > On the other hand... > -ac- > > May a tell you something? Forget bbb and just do your stuff. Say your stuff. > Write your stuff. Forget him. Forget. Stop being hysterical about it. > -geo- Glory H alleluia! my sentiments exactly. ac is making this list the Boblist. i'm sick of Bob. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 i didn't realize that Zarathustra spoke. on the other hand i was on vacation in miami. i can see why people move here when they get older. it's not freezing cold like it's in boston. Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > A walking elephant doesn't stop to tell each barking dog that it doesn't care! > > Its very act of " not stopping to respond " indicates that it is not that affected by the barking of dogs. > > > On the other hand... > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > well thanx ac. > > > > > > > > that's a nice slice. > > > > > > > > > You have been quite good in this reply too! > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.) > > > > oh that means so much to me. > > I thought so. > > > > > > like hell it does. > > > > are you serious? > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > but really really i don't care what happens. > > > > > > Based on what you write and how react to posts regarding your " removal " , it doesn't appear that way. > > > > > > I respect honest people more, even if they show themselves to be vulnerable. > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > uh ac.. > > > > show me where i've cowered to the threat of removal.. > > > > show me where i've changed any aspect of my behavior towards anyone.. > > > > show me where i've been dishonest about my feelings.. > > > Is it reasonable to expect a liar to admit to lying? > > Is it reasonable to expect someone dishonest to admit to being dishonest. > > > > > > but i don't give a shit if you respect me or not.. > > > I do. > > Currently, I don't have that much time or 'need' that I can afford to use my time communicating with someone whom can't trust to have basic honesty. > > > > > so i'll just not bother displaying phony vulnerability. > > > You do display vulnerability. If you admit to it, you will display honesty and courage too. > > > If just being abusive was the true mark of 'courage', Gandhi would have been among the most cowardice person ever born. However, that is not really the case. > > > > > > > > in fact ac.. > > > > i like you not liking me. > > > It is not that I 'dislike' you, just like I don't dislike sugar or salt. Still, I like my coffee with only one spoon of sugar and not twnety. I like my soup with only one spoon of salt and not twenty. > > Curently, you are generating so much volume on this group that you are drowning all other flavors. > > > > > > i'm choosy when it comes to who i would have as a crony. > > > > > I guess everyone is that way, by default. > > > > > > > > > > > > this is one of the few things i really mean. > > > > > > > > if a sanctum sanctorum is what you want. > > > > > > > > go for it and cast your vote for my removal. > > > > > > I think your volume is a much bigger problem than what you really write. If you were to self-moderate yourself and limit yourself to about 6 posts a day, I think it will be less of an issue. Excess is the issue currently as it is pretty much drowning the entire list in only one flavor... Bob's flavor. And, if most of these messages have same thing... that becomes a bigger issue. > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > when people stop writing to me or about me.. > > > > i'll slow down. > > > > show me an initiated posting of mine of late. > > > > there aren't any homie. > > > > and i guess i'm just not rude enough to not reply.. > > > > to posts directed at me.. > > > > or to respond tho posts about me. > > > > I have seen you reply to many posts which had no reference of you and did not seem directed to you. I have seen you reply to many posts which had no reference to you and were not directed to you. > > > > > > > > what do you take me for? > > > So far, I have assumed you to be an intelligent, mature, responsible, successful individual with enough common sense and honesty. > > Do you want to prove me wrong? > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > Having fun is fine but, maybe, like thoughts, " fun " too is greatly overrated... and, never " really questioned " ! > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > oh i guess we should strive for dour and somber depressive holiness. > > > > well you can take that and shove it where no sun shines sunshine. > > > > sorry but i'll take fun if not romance. > > > > I am not concerned with what you choose to do in your private life. I am concerned with what you do on this list. This list doesn't need to be exclusively about 'Bob Having Fun'. If it was, Hur might have named it 'BobsFunZone'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, the main purpose behind this list is not for Bob to have fun. > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > baba never said it was. > > > > but that won't stop him from doing what he does best. > > > > you see ac.. > > > > .b b.b. is purposeless. > > > > and therefore doesn't stand behind anything or anyone. > > > > and doggone it that's flat out fun. > > > > what you gonna do? > > > > Ask... what will Hur do? > > > This list is not so much " my " responsiblity as it is Hur's. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, that is not 'why' Hur started this list or run it. Maybe, running a list so that 'Bob can have fun' is not on the top of Hur's agenda. > > > > > If you don't care about your fellow posters and readers, at least show some care, concern and respect for the list owner and moderator. > > > > > > Moderating a list is not an easy task especially if Hur has a job or if he has something else going in his life. I think if you can self-moderate yourself and keep your posts to about 6 a day, it will not be an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.) > > > > Hur is perfectly capable of speaking for himself son. > > > Yes, and, Hur has spoken... > > > By posting and by starting a poll... > > > I think Hur has made it clear that he wants to know what list members think should be done with Bob! > > > Best, > ac > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Werner: > > > > > > > > > > I think Hur knows what this list is about, what it represents and what he wants to happen here. I think he can take a suitable decision on his own. > > > > > > > > > > Running a list is not that easy and many lists fail due to lack of participation. Bob is one of the most regular, most consistent poster here. He replies to almost every post and he writes pretty much same thing in response to every post. Granted that much of what he writes is quite abusive, repetitive and insulting... but, at least he writes. Without him, the volume is likely to go down considerably. Many folks might come and go and might stop posting when they get busy with other things in here. My guess that with Bob that is unlikely to be a concern. He probably has all the time and has little to no chance of leaving the list, stop posting or decrease his posting because of anything else in his life. > > > > > > > > > > Thus, I think it might be risky to try to remove Bob. You remove on regular volume poster who replies to almost every post and other posters get busy with something else in life are unable to post - what then? As long as Bob is here he can keep the volume up. Therefore, it might be in list's interest to keep him. However, it might more accurate to rename this list temporarily to " BobsVille " or something similar to truly represent its current flavor. Bob is currently the most dominant voice on this forum because of his volume and he because he has the ability to use filthiest and most abusive and insulting language of all current posters. He is undisputed winner of the current 'contest'. Also, as long as Bob's flavor is the 'main theme' here, it might also be more accurate ro replace Nisargadatta's poto on the front-page with Bob's and change the description with Bob's messages. I think any of his message will do, because, most of them are pretty much SAME and even have same words. If needed names in the message can be removed before posting it in the group's description. For example: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================== > > > > > > > > > > you wouldn't know. > > > > > > > > > > 0000000000000hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa0000000000000000000000000000\ \ > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > listen stupid.. > > > > > > > > > > nothing can actually " fill a void " . > > > > > > > > > > a speck of nothing at all eliminates and negates a void. > > > > > > > > > > you suffer a vapid life my child. > > > > > > > > > > what a creep that you don't see a joke when it's right in your face. > > > > > > > > > > sorry dabbo.. > > > > > > > > > > this is too ridiculous to even pretend to have fun with. > > > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > dabbo you just can't take it that's all. > > > > > > > > > > grow up kid. > > > > > > > > > > what pretense of being enlightened do you speak of? > > > > > > > > > > there's no such thing as enlightenment ding-a-ling. > > > > > > > > > > that's what i've been saying all along. > > > > > > > > > > and uhm..that means for baba too nutzoid. > > > > > > > > > > but you..you little nitwit...only listen to your own sad story. > > > > > > > > > > the filla from manila! > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > buck up sonny. > > > > > > > > > > it's all for fun. > > > > > > > > > > it's a game stupid. > > > > > > > > > > (and don't feel so abused as that little self you deny) > > > > > > > > > > don't take it nor yourself so seriously. > > > > > > > > > > your being supercilious and super silly too. > > > > > > > > > > chill out. > > > > > > > > > > just because i won't let you get away with.. > > > > > > > > > > your phony guru wisdom act.. > > > > > > > > > > don't get snippy. > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter kid. > > > > > > > > > > all of your bullshit is as insignificant as you are. > > > > > > > > > > i rejoice in this: > > > > > > > > > > undistinguished.. > > > > > > > > > > unimportant.. > > > > > > > > > > tenuous nonmeaningful and superficial nonsense.. > > > > > > > > > > named baba and the " life " . > > > > > > > > > > you just can't fact the total blankness of it all. > > > > > > > > > > too bad. > > > > > > > > > > but you'll not make a silk purse out of a sow's ear dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > it's a meaningless piece of shit. > > > > > > > > > > all of your preachment and holier than thou bullshit.. > > > > > > > > > > will get you absolutely nothing but more of my derision. > > > > > > > > > > and that means nothing either. > > > > > > > > > > relax little you dumb little wannabe guru. > > > > > > > > > > you've got nothing to lose.. > > > > > > > > > > and absolutely nothing to gain. > > > > > > > > > > so cut the bullshit..chill..laugh a little.. > > > > > > > > > > and quit being a smarmy little asshole. > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > May I remind you that the end of this month the voting for removing Bob > > > > > > from this list will end. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, the pro-voters don't want to leave Bob because he somehow is > > > > > > entertaining (as long he is attacking someone else) but he also is an > > > > > > indication what this list is about: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mindless entertainment and fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Responses Choices Votes % 1 reply Respondents Let him > > > > > > ramble 10 90 > > > > > > marktimmins60@ > > > > > > unclesophie@ > > > > > > dennis_travis33@ > > > > > > adithya_comming@ > > > > > > methusalum@ > > > > > > Roberibus111@ > > > > > > pedsie6@ > > > > > > fewtch@ > > > > > > lschwabe@ > > > > > > kailashana@ > > > > > > Remove him 1 9 > > > > > > wwoehr@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Hur.. you're from Boston? that's amazing! i'm not. not from Boston that is. life is full of surprises for sure. My am i in love with Miami though. it's not up north like where i live. it's in the direction of a different place from here. both here and there...dogs run free. why not we? ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > i didn't realize that Zarathustra spoke. on the other hand i was on vacation in miami. i can see why people move here when they get older. it's not freezing cold like it's in boston. > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > A walking elephant doesn't stop to tell each barking dog that it doesn't care! > > > > Its very act of " not stopping to respond " indicates that it is not that affected by the barking of dogs. > > > > > > On the other hand... > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > well thanx ac. > > > > > > > > > > that's a nice slice. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have been quite good in this reply too! > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.) > > > > > > oh that means so much to me. > > > > I thought so. > > > > > > > > > > like hell it does. > > > > > > are you serious? > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > but really really i don't care what happens. > > > > > > > > Based on what you write and how react to posts regarding your " removal " , it doesn't appear that way. > > > > > > > > I respect honest people more, even if they show themselves to be vulnerable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > uh ac.. > > > > > > show me where i've cowered to the threat of removal.. > > > > > > show me where i've changed any aspect of my behavior towards anyone.. > > > > > > show me where i've been dishonest about my feelings.. > > > > > > Is it reasonable to expect a liar to admit to lying? > > > > Is it reasonable to expect someone dishonest to admit to being dishonest. > > > > > > > > > > but i don't give a shit if you respect me or not.. > > > > > > I do. > > > > Currently, I don't have that much time or 'need' that I can afford to use my time communicating with someone whom can't trust to have basic honesty. > > > > > > > > > so i'll just not bother displaying phony vulnerability. > > > > > > You do display vulnerability. If you admit to it, you will display honesty and courage too. > > > > > > If just being abusive was the true mark of 'courage', Gandhi would have been among the most cowardice person ever born. However, that is not really the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact ac.. > > > > > > i like you not liking me. > > > > > > It is not that I 'dislike' you, just like I don't dislike sugar or salt. Still, I like my coffee with only one spoon of sugar and not twnety. I like my soup with only one spoon of salt and not twenty. > > > > Curently, you are generating so much volume on this group that you are drowning all other flavors. > > > > > > > > > > i'm choosy when it comes to who i would have as a crony. > > > > > > > > > I guess everyone is that way, by default. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is one of the few things i really mean. > > > > > > > > > > if a sanctum sanctorum is what you want. > > > > > > > > > > go for it and cast your vote for my removal. > > > > > > > > I think your volume is a much bigger problem than what you really write. If you were to self-moderate yourself and limit yourself to about 6 posts a day, I think it will be less of an issue. Excess is the issue currently as it is pretty much drowning the entire list in only one flavor... Bob's flavor. And, if most of these messages have same thing... that becomes a bigger issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > when people stop writing to me or about me.. > > > > > > i'll slow down. > > > > > > show me an initiated posting of mine of late. > > > > > > there aren't any homie. > > > > > > and i guess i'm just not rude enough to not reply.. > > > > > > to posts directed at me.. > > > > > > or to respond tho posts about me. > > > > > > > > I have seen you reply to many posts which had no reference of you and did not seem directed to you. I have seen you reply to many posts which had no reference to you and were not directed to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you take me for? > > > > > > So far, I have assumed you to be an intelligent, mature, responsible, successful individual with enough common sense and honesty. > > > > Do you want to prove me wrong? > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having fun is fine but, maybe, like thoughts, " fun " too is greatly overrated... and, never " really questioned " ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > oh i guess we should strive for dour and somber depressive holiness. > > > > > > well you can take that and shove it where no sun shines sunshine. > > > > > > sorry but i'll take fun if not romance. > > > > > > > > I am not concerned with what you choose to do in your private life. I am concerned with what you do on this list. This list doesn't need to be exclusively about 'Bob Having Fun'. If it was, Hur might have named it 'BobsFunZone'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, the main purpose behind this list is not for Bob to have fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > baba never said it was. > > > > > > but that won't stop him from doing what he does best. > > > > > > you see ac.. > > > > > > .b b.b. is purposeless. > > > > > > and therefore doesn't stand behind anything or anyone. > > > > > > and doggone it that's flat out fun. > > > > > > what you gonna do? > > > > > > > > Ask... what will Hur do? > > > > > > This list is not so much " my " responsiblity as it is Hur's. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, that is not 'why' Hur started this list or run it. Maybe, running a list so that 'Bob can have fun' is not on the top of Hur's agenda. > > > > > > > If you don't care about your fellow posters and readers, at least show some care, concern and respect for the list owner and moderator. > > > > > > > > Moderating a list is not an easy task especially if Hur has a job or if he has something else going in his life. I think if you can self-moderate yourself and keep your posts to about 6 a day, it will not be an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.) > > > > > > Hur is perfectly capable of speaking for himself son. > > > > > > Yes, and, Hur has spoken... > > > > > > By posting and by starting a poll... > > > > > > I think Hur has made it clear that he wants to know what list members think should be done with Bob! > > > > > > Best, > > ac > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Werner: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Hur knows what this list is about, what it represents and what he wants to happen here. I think he can take a suitable decision on his own. > > > > > > > > > > > > Running a list is not that easy and many lists fail due to lack of participation. Bob is one of the most regular, most consistent poster here. He replies to almost every post and he writes pretty much same thing in response to every post. Granted that much of what he writes is quite abusive, repetitive and insulting... but, at least he writes. Without him, the volume is likely to go down considerably. Many folks might come and go and might stop posting when they get busy with other things in here. My guess that with Bob that is unlikely to be a concern. He probably has all the time and has little to no chance of leaving the list, stop posting or decrease his posting because of anything else in his life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus, I think it might be risky to try to remove Bob. You remove on regular volume poster who replies to almost every post and other posters get busy with something else in life are unable to post - what then? As long as Bob is here he can keep the volume up. Therefore, it might be in list's interest to keep him. However, it might more accurate to rename this list temporarily to " BobsVille " or something similar to truly represent its current flavor. Bob is currently the most dominant voice on this forum because of his volume and he because he has the ability to use filthiest and most abusive and insulting language of all current posters. He is undisputed winner of the current 'contest'. Also, as long as Bob's flavor is the 'main theme' here, it might also be more accurate ro replace Nisargadatta's poto on the front-page with Bob's and change the description with Bob's messages. I think any of his message will do, because, most of them are pretty much SAME and even have same words. If needed names in the message can be removed before posting it in the group's description. For example: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > you wouldn't know. > > > > > > > > > > > > 0000000000000hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa0000000000000000000000000000\ \ > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > listen stupid.. > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing can actually " fill a void " . > > > > > > > > > > > > a speck of nothing at all eliminates and negates a void. > > > > > > > > > > > > you suffer a vapid life my child. > > > > > > > > > > > > what a creep that you don't see a joke when it's right in your face. > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry dabbo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > this is too ridiculous to even pretend to have fun with. > > > > > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > dabbo you just can't take it that's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > grow up kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > what pretense of being enlightened do you speak of? > > > > > > > > > > > > there's no such thing as enlightenment ding-a-ling. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what i've been saying all along. > > > > > > > > > > > > and uhm..that means for baba too nutzoid. > > > > > > > > > > > > but you..you little nitwit...only listen to your own sad story. > > > > > > > > > > > > the filla from manila! > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > buck up sonny. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all for fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a game stupid. > > > > > > > > > > > > (and don't feel so abused as that little self you deny) > > > > > > > > > > > > don't take it nor yourself so seriously. > > > > > > > > > > > > your being supercilious and super silly too. > > > > > > > > > > > > chill out. > > > > > > > > > > > > just because i won't let you get away with.. > > > > > > > > > > > > your phony guru wisdom act.. > > > > > > > > > > > > don't get snippy. > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > all of your bullshit is as insignificant as you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > i rejoice in this: > > > > > > > > > > > > undistinguished.. > > > > > > > > > > > > unimportant.. > > > > > > > > > > > > tenuous nonmeaningful and superficial nonsense.. > > > > > > > > > > > > named baba and the " life " . > > > > > > > > > > > > you just can't fact the total blankness of it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > too bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > but you'll not make a silk purse out of a sow's ear dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a meaningless piece of shit. > > > > > > > > > > > > all of your preachment and holier than thou bullshit.. > > > > > > > > > > > > will get you absolutely nothing but more of my derision. > > > > > > > > > > > > and that means nothing either. > > > > > > > > > > > > relax little you dumb little wannabe guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > you've got nothing to lose.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and absolutely nothing to gain. > > > > > > > > > > > > so cut the bullshit..chill..laugh a little.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and quit being a smarmy little asshole. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May I remind you that the end of this month the voting for removing Bob > > > > > > > from this list will end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, the pro-voters don't want to leave Bob because he somehow is > > > > > > > entertaining (as long he is attacking someone else) but he also is an > > > > > > > indication what this list is about: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mindless entertainment and fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Responses Choices Votes % 1 reply Respondents Let him > > > > > > > ramble 10 90 > > > > > > > marktimmins60@ > > > > > > > unclesophie@ > > > > > > > dennis_travis33@ > > > > > > > adithya_comming@ > > > > > > > methusalum@ > > > > > > > Roberibus111@ > > > > > > > pedsie6@ > > > > > > > fewtch@ > > > > > > > lschwabe@ > > > > > > > kailashana@ > > > > > > > Remove him 1 9 > > > > > > > wwoehr@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > i didn't realize that Zarathustra spoke. on the other hand i was on vacation in miami. i can see why people move here when they get older. it's not freezing cold like it's in boston. Nice place to vacation. The west side of Florida is really nice, around Sarasota. Slower pace, warm weather, great museum, theater, opera, art galleries, and less people. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > i didn't realize that Zarathustra spoke. on the other hand i was on vacation in miami. i can see why people move here when they get older. it's not freezing cold like it's in boston. > > Nice place to vacation. > > The west side of Florida is really nice, around Sarasota. > > Slower pace, warm weather, great museum, theater, opera, art galleries, and less people. > > - D - people frighten you don't they dabbo? :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I'll keep sarasota in mind. Thanks for the tip. I'm just getting into the florida thing. A friend moved down there and it's an excuse to visit and gaze at the art deco buildings on the ocean drive. It reminds me of the old mediterranean towns in the 60s before the rural migrants invasion that ruined the romantic old cities. Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > i didn't realize that Zarathustra spoke. on the other hand i was on vacation in miami. i can see why people move here when they get older. it's not freezing cold like it's in boston. > > Nice place to vacation. > > The west side of Florida is really nice, around Sarasota. > > Slower pace, warm weather, great museum, theater, opera, art galleries, and less people. > > - D - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > I'll keep sarasota in mind. Thanks for the tip. I'm just getting into the florida thing. A friend moved down there and it's an excuse to visit and gaze at the art deco buildings on the ocean drive. It reminds me of the old mediterranean towns in the 60s before the rural migrants invasion that ruined the romantic old cities. Don't it always seem to go, you don't know what you got till it's gone? - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > I'll keep sarasota in mind. Thanks for the tip. I'm just getting into the florida thing. A friend moved down there and it's an excuse to visit and gaze at the art deco buildings on the ocean drive. It reminds me of the old mediterranean towns in the 60s before the rural migrants invasion that ruined the romantic old cities. > > Don't it always seem to go, you don't know what you got till it's gone? > > - D - > It does. It's a good indication that we don't got nuthin' ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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