Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 ____________ > Od: "dan330033" <dan330033 > Komu: Nisargadatta > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:09 > Předmět: Re: It's very simple > Nisargadatta , "wwoehr" <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , "dan330033" <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "wwoehr" <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "dan330033" <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "wwoehr" <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, "dan330033" <dan330033@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems like you do the accusing, "stupid,idiot,weak," etc., > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, c'mon now... he's a guru, "Baba", who people go to in order to hear how stupid, idiotic, weak and pieces of sh*t they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is our strongest defense in here....to keep (new) people far away from some more spiritual ego, spiritual "insights" and other kind of diseases...... > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it didn't work with you, Marc, > > > > > > > > > > You are blabbering your spiritual crap since years abd there is no end in sight. > > > > > > > > > > And the worse: You arranged yourself with Bob playing the funny guy > > > > > and licking his feet uttering a dozend LOLs and creeping in the dust without any spine as soon as he is addressing you: > > > > > > > > > > lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, ..... > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be "one-up" on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > Werner - > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > Dan, > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > Werner Werner - Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. Thanks, Dan > > How did that happen? > > > > You feel an attachment to this list, like it's your daughter, and you see bobby as a rapist, and you want to protect the list from him? > > > > Consider looking into that sense of attachment, and viewing yourself as the protector of the list... > > > > Hur's list ... Hur's call. > > > > Hur apparently set this up to be a free-for-all. > > > > If not liking that sense of a free-for-all, you can leave the list, no? > > > > Or not read posts you don't want to read. > > > > This is not at all equivalent to being raped. > > > > If one is free to leave, to ignore, or not to interact - how can that be equivalent to rape? > > > > - D - > > > Dear Dan do you know what is Satjam, Shivam, Sundaram? It means True, Good, and Beauty - so Maharaj said in I Am That (chapter 33) - that he corrects all bad things - it is his real nature - and i feel and I think that also Werner feels the same, that whatever bob or marc says is not correct, is for everybody thery fall to identity with body and mind - so we try to correct it. i try but result is not mine we will see what happen - i am not attached to this list and whatever happens, happens ... let it be Jai Guru Ales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > > > ____________ > > Od: " dan330033 " > > Komu: Nisargadatta > > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:09 > > Předmět: Re: It's very simple > > >  > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems like you do the accusing, " stupid, " " idiot, " " weak, " etc., > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, c'mon now... he's a guru, " Baba " , who people go to in order to hear how stupid, idiotic, weak and pieces of sh*t they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is our strongest defense in here....to keep (new) people far away from some more spiritual ego, spiritual " insights " and other kind of diseases...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it didn't work with you, Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are blabbering your spiritual crap since years abd there is no end in sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > And the worse: You arranged yourself with Bob playing the funny guy > > > > > > and licking his feet uttering a dozend LOLs and creeping in the dust without any spine as soon as he is addressing you: > > > > > > > > > > > > lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > Dan, > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > Werner > > Werner - > > Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > > How did that happen? > > > > > > You feel an attachment to this list, like it's your daughter, and you see bobby as a rapist, and you want to protect the list from him? > > > > > > Consider looking into that sense of attachment, and viewing yourself as the protector of the list... > > > > > > Hur's list ... Hur's call. > > > > > > Hur apparently set this up to be a free-for-all. > > > > > > If not liking that sense of a free-for-all, you can leave the list, no? > > > > > > Or not read posts you don't want to read. > > > > > > This is not at all equivalent to being raped. > > > > > > If one is free to leave, to ignore, or not to interact - how can that be equivalent to rape? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Dear Dan > >  > > do you know what is Satjam, Shivam, Sundaram? > >  > > It means True, Good, and Beauty - > >  > > so Maharaj said in I Am That (chapter 33) - that he corrects all bad things - it is his real nature - > > and i feel and I think that also Werner feels the same, that whatever bob or marc says is not correct, is for everybody thery fall to identity with body and mind - so we try to correct it. > > i try > > but result is not mine > > we will see what happen - i am not attached to this list and whatever happens, happens ... let it be > >  > > Jai Guru > >  > > Ales > >  the Pope of the Most HOLY Roman Catholic Church.. Jesus God Bless his Infallible and Righteous Soul.. says that you are WRONG! YOU are an INFIDEL ales. of course he's just trying to help correct your insipid ideas. the Holy Father feels you need Redemption. you come from a Pagan tradition. in his Merciful and Loving Kindness.. with all the Love in his Heart.. he only wishes you the best and the True knowledge of God. but if you don't listen.. that poor man won't be able to help you from BURNING in HELL.. forever and ever. you have only ONE choice. jpoin the fold or be damned eternally. right now it's clear that SATAN has you in his grips. We all pray for you ales. but personally i think your gonna fry. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > > > ____________ > > Od: " dan330033 " > > Komu: Nisargadatta > > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:09 > > Předmět: Re: It's very simple > > >  > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems like you do the accusing, " stupid, " " idiot, " " weak, " etc., > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, c'mon now... he's a guru, " Baba " , who people go to in order to hear how stupid, idiotic, weak and pieces of sh*t they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is our strongest defense in here....to keep (new) people far away from some more spiritual ego, spiritual " insights " and other kind of diseases...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it didn't work with you, Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are blabbering your spiritual crap since years abd there is no end in sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > And the worse: You arranged yourself with Bob playing the funny guy > > > > > > and licking his feet uttering a dozend LOLs and creeping in the dust without any spine as soon as he is addressing you: > > > > > > > > > > > > lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > Dan, > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > Werner > > Werner - > > Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > > How did that happen? > > > > > > You feel an attachment to this list, like it's your daughter, and you see bobby as a rapist, and you want to protect the list from him? > > > > > > Consider looking into that sense of attachment, and viewing yourself as the protector of the list... > > > > > > Hur's list ... Hur's call. > > > > > > Hur apparently set this up to be a free-for-all. > > > > > > If not liking that sense of a free-for-all, you can leave the list, no? > > > > > > Or not read posts you don't want to read. > > > > > > This is not at all equivalent to being raped. > > > > > > If one is free to leave, to ignore, or not to interact - how can that be equivalent to rape? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Dear Dan > >  > > do you know what is Satjam, Shivam, Sundaram? > >  > > It means True, Good, and Beauty - > >  > > so Maharaj said in I Am That (chapter 33) - that he corrects all bad things - it is his real nature - > > and i feel and I think that also Werner feels the same, that whatever bob or marc says is not correct, is for everybody thery fall to identity with body and mind - so we try to correct it. > > i try > > but result is not mine > > we will see what happen - i am not attached to this list and whatever happens, happens ... let it be > >  > > Jai Guru > >  > > Ales Ales - If you see something that needs correction, then you haven't corrected anything. Look to the splinter in your own eye, before you tell others to pull out the dust motes in their eyes. Understand what your Maharaj was pointing to: Nothing/everything Movement: love. There isn't any gap in there for something wrong to occur. Nothing is out of place. Are you going to use the words said by " others " as your means to regulate " your " vision? Or ... are you able to see? Clearly? Without any division anywhere? Who are you going to correct, who isn't an appearance of you to you? Are you able to address each appearance as the one to whom it appears? Who is this ... See it ... and words said by any other are just another appearance. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 ____________ > Od: "BobN" <Roberibus111 > Komu: Nisargadatta > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:34 > PÅ™edmÄ›t: Re: satjam shivam sundaram > Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > > > ________ > > Od: "dan330033" > > Komu: Nisargadatta > > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:09 > > PÅ™edmÄ›t: Re: It's very simple > > >  > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "wwoehr" wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "dan330033" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "wwoehr" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "dan330033" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "wwoehr" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, "dan330033" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems like you do the accusing, "stupid,idiot,weak," etc., > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, c'mon now... he's a guru, "Baba", who people go to in order to hear how stupid, idiotic, weak and pieces of sh*t they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is our strongest defense in here....to keep (new) people far away from some more spiritual ego, spiritual "insights" and other kind of diseases...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it didn't work with you, Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are blabbering your spiritual crap since years abd there is no end in sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > And the worse: You arranged yourself with Bob playing the funny guy > > > > > > and licking his feet uttering a dozend LOLs and creeping in the dust without any spine as soon as he is addressing you: > > > > > > > > > > > > lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be "one-up" on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > Dan, > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > Werner > > Werner - > > Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > > How did that happen? > > > > > > You feel an attachment to this list, like it's your daughter, and you see bobby as a rapist, and you want to protect the list from him? > > > > > > Consider looking into that sense of attachment, and viewing yourself as the protector of the list... > > > > > > Hur's list ... Hur's call. > > > > > > Hur apparently set this up to be a free-for-all. > > > > > > If not liking that sense of a free-for-all, you can leave the list, no? > > > > > > Or not read posts you don't want to read. > > > > > > This is not at all equivalent to being raped. > > > > > > If one is free to leave, to ignore, or not to interact - how can that be equivalent to rape? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Dear Dan > >  > > do you know what is Satjam, Shivam, Sundaram? > >  > > It means True, Good, and Beauty - > >  > > so Maharaj said in I Am That (chapter 33) - that he corrects all bad things - it is his real nature - > > and i feel and I think that also Werner feels the same, that whatever bob or marc says is not correct, is for everybody thery fall to identity with body and mind - so we try to correct it. > > i try > > but result is not mine > > we will see what happen - i am not attached to this list and whatever happens, happens ... let it be > >  > > Jai Guru > >  > > Ales > >  the Pope of the Most HOLY Roman Catholic Church.. Jesus God Bless his Infallible and Righteous Soul.. says that you are WRONG! YOU are an INFIDEL ales. of course he's just trying to help correct your insipid ideas. the Holy Father feels you need Redemption. you come from a Pagan tradition. in his Merciful and Loving Kindness.. with all the Love in his Heart.. he only wishes you the best and the True knowledge of God. but if you don't listen.. that poor man won't be able to help you from BURNING in HELL.. forever and ever. you have only ONE choice. jpoin the fold or be damned eternally. right now it's clear that SATAN has you in his grips. We all pray for you ales. but personally i think your gonna fry. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. small boy bob, you must tke control of tama and raja gunas - then sattva guna will reveal. we will help you there, just carefully read Maharaj and others sage instructions which i will publish there, the process will be long in your case, but the end is always this - happiness, joy and smile. so then there will be Oneness - you will see Jai guru Ales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 ____________ > Od: "dan330033" <dan330033 > Komu: Nisargadatta > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:43 > PÅ™edmÄ›t: Re: satjam shivam sundaram > Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > > > ________ > > Od: "dan330033" > > Komu: Nisargadatta > > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:09 > > PÅ™edmÄ›t: Re: It's very simple > > >  > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "wwoehr" wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "dan330033" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "wwoehr" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "dan330033" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "wwoehr" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, "dan330033" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems like you do the accusing, "stupid,idiot,weak," etc., > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, c'mon now... he's a guru, "Baba", who people go to in order to hear how stupid, idiotic, weak and pieces of sh*t they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is our strongest defense in here....to keep (new) people far away from some more spiritual ego, spiritual "insights" and other kind of diseases...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it didn't work with you, Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are blabbering your spiritual crap since years abd there is no end in sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > And the worse: You arranged yourself with Bob playing the funny guy > > > > > > and licking his feet uttering a dozend LOLs and creeping in the dust without any spine as soon as he is addressing you: > > > > > > > > > > > > lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be "one-up" on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > Dan, > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > Werner > > Werner - > > Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > > How did that happen? > > > > > > You feel an attachment to this list, like it's your daughter, and you see bobby as a rapist, and you want to protect the list from him? > > > > > > Consider looking into that sense of attachment, and viewing yourself as the protector of the list... > > > > > > Hur's list ... Hur's call. > > > > > > Hur apparently set this up to be a free-for-all. > > > > > > If not liking that sense of a free-for-all, you can leave the list, no? > > > > > > Or not read posts you don't want to read. > > > > > > This is not at all equivalent to being raped. > > > > > > If one is free to leave, to ignore, or not to interact - how can that be equivalent to rape? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Dear Dan > >  > > do you know what is Satjam, Shivam, Sundaram? > >  > > It means True, Good, and Beauty - > >  > > so Maharaj said in I Am That (chapter 33) - that he corrects all bad things - it is his real nature - > > and i feel and I think that also Werner feels the same, that whatever bob or marc says is not correct, is for everybody thery fall to identity with body and mind - so we try to correct it. > > i try > > but result is not mine > > we will see what happen - i am not attached to this list and whatever happens, happens ... let it be > >  > > Jai Guru > >  > > Ales Ales - If you see something that needs correction, then you haven't corrected anything. Look to the splinter in your own eye, before you tell others to pull out the dust motes in their eyes. Understand what your Maharaj was pointing to: Nothing/everything Movement: love. There isn't any gap in there for something wrong to occur. Nothing is out of place. Are you going to use the words said by "others" as your means to regulate "your" vision? Or ... are you able to see? Clearly? Without any division anywhere? Who are you going to correct, who isn't an appearance of you to you? Are you able to address each appearance as the one to whom it appears? Who is this ... See it ... and words said by any other are just another appearance. - Dan - I dont want nothing - that is my motivation --- i dont want to correct your, bob or world - why it is not my business. i do nothing words flow, what will happen will happend - i dont care of results good night everything is perfeft - I know it. so why not to kick bobÅ› ass in this perfect world:)) jai guru ales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > > > ____________ > > Od: " BobN " > > Komu: Nisargadatta > > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:34 > > Předmět: Re: satjam shivam sundaram > > >  > > > > > > Nisargadatta , wrote: > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Od: " dan330033 " > > > Komu: Nisargadatta > > > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:09 > > > Předmět: Re: It's very simple > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems like you do the accusing, " stupid, " " idiot, " " weak, " etc., > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, c'mon now... he's a guru, " Baba " , who people go to in order to hear how stupid, idiotic, weak and pieces of sh*t they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is our strongest defense in here....to keep (new) people far away from some more spiritual ego, spiritual " insights " and other kind of diseases...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it didn't work with you, Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are blabbering your spiritual crap since years abd there is no end in sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the worse: You arranged yourself with Bob playing the funny guy > > > > > > > and licking his feet uttering a dozend LOLs and creeping in the dust without any spine as soon as he is addressing you: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > > > Werner > > > > Werner - > > > > Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > > > > > How did that happen? > > > > > > > > You feel an attachment to this list, like it's your daughter, and you see bobby as a rapist, and you want to protect the list from him? > > > > > > > > Consider looking into that sense of attachment, and viewing yourself as the protector of the list... > > > > > > > > Hur's list ... Hur's call. > > > > > > > > Hur apparently set this up to be a free-for-all. > > > > > > > > If not liking that sense of a free-for-all, you can leave the list, no? > > > > > > > > Or not read posts you don't want to read. > > > > > > > > This is not at all equivalent to being raped. > > > > > > > > If one is free to leave, to ignore, or not to interact - how can that be equivalent to rape? > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > Dear Dan > > > >  > > > > do you know what is Satjam, Shivam, Sundaram? > > > >  > > > > It means True, Good, and Beauty - > > > >  > > > > so Maharaj said in I Am That (chapter 33) - that he corrects all bad things - it is his real nature - > > > > and i feel and I think that also Werner feels the same, that whatever bob or marc says is not correct, is for everybody thery fall to identity with body and mind - so we try to correct it. > > > > i try > > > > but result is not mine > > > > we will see what happen - i am not attached to this list and whatever happens, happens ... let it be > > > >  > > > > Jai Guru > > > >  > > > > Ales > > > >  > > the Pope of the Most HOLY Roman Catholic Church.. > > Jesus God Bless his Infallible and Righteous Soul.. > > says that you are WRONG! > > YOU are an INFIDEL ales. > > of course he's just trying to help correct your insipid ideas. > > the Holy Father feels you need Redemption. > > you come from a Pagan tradition. > > in his Merciful and Loving Kindness.. > > with all the Love in his Heart.. > > he only wishes you the best and the True knowledge of God. > > but if you don't listen.. > > that poor man won't be able to help you from BURNING in HELL.. > > forever and ever. > > you have only ONE choice. > > jpoin the fold or be damned eternally. > > right now it's clear that SATAN has you in his grips. > > We all pray for you ales. > > but personally i think your gonna fry. > > ROFLMAO! > > .b b.b. > >  > > small boy bob, > >  > > you must tke control of tama and raja gunas - then sattva guna will reveal. > >  > > we will help you there, just carefully read Maharaj and others sage instructions which i will publish there, the process will be long in your case, but the end is always this - happiness, joy and smile. so then there will be Oneness - you will see > >  > > Jai guru > >  > > Ales nope ales. your wrong. Jesus loves you.. and he hates to do it but he's sending you to the fires. you're a heathen let's face it. so after the votes are tallied.. get the hell out of here and got to God's Hell where you belong. it's a pity this has to happen to a mentally deficient slumdog.. but i mean it's the orders of the One True God. s'long kid. remember too that you'll always have wernie's love too. may it comfort you in Hades you poor child slob. but hey! one good thing all your blessed gurus find there.. no need to carry matches or a lighter for their bidis. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > > > ____________ > > Od: " dan330033 " > > Komu: Nisargadatta > > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:43 > > Předmět: Re: satjam shivam sundaram > > >  > > > > > > Nisargadatta , wrote: > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Od: " dan330033 " > > > Komu: Nisargadatta > > > Datum: 28.01.2010 21:09 > > > Předmět: Re: It's very simple > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " dan330033 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems like you do the accusing, " stupid, " " idiot, " " weak, " etc., > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, c'mon now... he's a guru, " Baba " , who people go to in order to hear how stupid, idiotic, weak and pieces of sh*t they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is our strongest defense in here....to keep (new) people far away from some more spiritual ego, spiritual " insights " and other kind of diseases...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it didn't work with you, Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are blabbering your spiritual crap since years abd there is no end in sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the worse: You arranged yourself with Bob playing the funny guy > > > > > > > and licking his feet uttering a dozend LOLs and creeping in the dust without any spine as soon as he is addressing you: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, lol, ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the attempt to be " one-up " on the other, ends ... > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Dan, > > > > > > > > > > If some guy raped your daughter you won't call the police because that would mean you see yourself as the good guy and the rapist as the bad guy. > > > > > > > > > > Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > Is that how you see this? The same as someone raping your daughter? > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > I knew that you will ride that horse because you are unable or unwilling to read my complete question: > > > > > > That part of it, which is the more important of it but difficult to answer, you avoided or didn't want to refer to: > > > > > > 'Or are there limits where your good-guy/bad-guy philosophy will end ?' > > > > > > Werner > > > > Werner - > > > > Deal with your own assumptions, rather than imputing them to me. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > > > > > How did that happen? > > > > > > > > You feel an attachment to this list, like it's your daughter, and you see bobby as a rapist, and you want to protect the list from him? > > > > > > > > Consider looking into that sense of attachment, and viewing yourself as the protector of the list... > > > > > > > > Hur's list ... Hur's call. > > > > > > > > Hur apparently set this up to be a free-for-all. > > > > > > > > If not liking that sense of a free-for-all, you can leave the list, no? > > > > > > > > Or not read posts you don't want to read. > > > > > > > > This is not at all equivalent to being raped. > > > > > > > > If one is free to leave, to ignore, or not to interact - how can that be equivalent to rape? > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > Dear Dan > > > >  > > > > do you know what is Satjam, Shivam, Sundaram? > > > >  > > > > It means True, Good, and Beauty - > > > >  > > > > so Maharaj said in I Am That (chapter 33) - that he corrects all bad things - it is his real nature - > > > > and i feel and I think that also Werner feels the same, that whatever bob or marc says is not correct, is for everybody thery fall to identity with body and mind - so we try to correct it. > > > > i try > > > > but result is not mine > > > > we will see what happen - i am not attached to this list and whatever happens, happens ... let it be > > > >  > > > > Jai Guru > > > >  > > > > Ales > > Ales - > > If you see something that needs correction, then you haven't corrected anything. > > Look to the splinter in your own eye, before you tell others to pull out the dust motes in their eyes. > > Understand what your Maharaj was pointing to: > > Nothing/everything > > Movement: love. > > There isn't any gap in there for something wrong to occur. > > Nothing is out of place. > > Are you going to use the words said by " others " as your means to regulate " your " vision? > > Or ... are you able to see? > > Clearly? > > Without any division anywhere? > > Who are you going to correct, who isn't an appearance of you to you? > > Are you able to address each appearance as the one to whom it appears? > > Who is this ... > > See it ... and words said by any other are just another appearance. > > - Dan - > >  > > I dont want nothing - that is my motivation --- > > i dont want to correct your, bob or world - why > > it is not my business. > >  i do nothing > >  > > words flow, what will happen will happend - i dont care of results > > good night > > everything is perfeft - I know it. so why not to kick bobś ass in this perfect world:)) > > jai guru > ales so you want nothing. with one exception? smiles, dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > so you want nothing. > > with one exception? > > smiles, > > dan > Everybody seems to want something, even though they've already " got " everything ;-). When that's clear, nothing is wanted. One is full of what one is, which is everything. Unless half of it is being pushed away, in order to keep half to oneself. One wants to have a body and a mind to oneself, and push everything else away, except for a few things that 'belong to that body'. Crazy, huh? ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > so you want nothing. > > > > with one exception? > > > > smiles, > > > > dan > > > > Everybody seems to want something, even though they've already " got " everything ;-). > > When that's clear, nothing is wanted. > > One is full of what one is, which is everything. > > Unless half of it is being pushed away, in order to keep half to oneself. > > One wants to have a body and a mind to oneself, and push everything else away, except for a few things that 'belong to that body'. > > Crazy, huh? ;-). Thanks for the clarity on this. Crazy, perhaps. Yet, it's the story of history across cultures. So, maybe necessary, given the way human conceptuality organizes. What you observed here reminds me of John Lennon: " You're everywhere. You'll get your share. " - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > so you want nothing. > > > > > > with one exception? > > > > > > smiles, > > > > > > dan > > > > > > > Everybody seems to want something, even though they've already " got " everything ;-). > > > > When that's clear, nothing is wanted. > > > > One is full of what one is, which is everything. > > > > Unless half of it is being pushed away, in order to keep half to oneself. > > > > One wants to have a body and a mind to oneself, and push everything else away, except for a few things that 'belong to that body'. > > > > Crazy, huh? ;-). > > Thanks for the clarity on this. > > Crazy, perhaps. > > Yet, it's the story of history across cultures. > > So, maybe necessary, given the way human conceptuality organizes. Fwiw, I don't see anything as being necessary. Inevitable perhaps, unless or until it isn't. What can form/organize, can dissolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > so you want nothing. > > > > > > > > with one exception? > > > > > > > > smiles, > > > > > > > > dan > > > > > > > > > > Everybody seems to want something, even though they've already " got " everything ;-). > > > > > > When that's clear, nothing is wanted. > > > > > > One is full of what one is, which is everything. > > > > > > Unless half of it is being pushed away, in order to keep half to oneself. > > > > > > One wants to have a body and a mind to oneself, and push everything else away, except for a few things that 'belong to that body'. > > > > > > Crazy, huh? ;-). > > > > Thanks for the clarity on this. > > > > Crazy, perhaps. > > > > Yet, it's the story of history across cultures. > > > > So, maybe necessary, given the way human conceptuality organizes. > > Fwiw, I don't see anything as being necessary. > > Inevitable perhaps, unless or until it isn't. > > What can form/organize, can dissolve. What can form necessarily dissolves. The dissolution of one form, is the forming of another. Any form has a function, necessarily. Although, understood, there thus are no separable formings or dissolvings, except as conceptualized. And thus, no necessity, except when conceptualized. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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