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You did it again. Me finds it is good thing to tear walls down

but naturally when wall is down, somebody has got to build new

wall, because that is the way it goes. So keep tearing down as

some got to do the job. The world is a gigantic playing ground

of and for an infinite number of form-less, center-less voices

speaking and singing and discussing & so forth and luckily one

might add there is no owner of all these voices If every voice

praised gods and gurus and so on this here particular formless

no-center - where all the voices are playing around and around

- might never have been struck by the fact that it is no thing

appearing as a formless nocenter singing many lovely songs and

none of them good and none of them bad and all of that without

an owner or controller to it and so on and so forth :)

 

See subject line, pleasa - there has been a slight changing of

original, yes.

 

-Lene

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> i don't care what a few numb skulls do with their time in India.

>

> if they want to smoke their lungs out with bidis that's OK too.

>

> i understand they worship those too.

>

> if you want to worship go right ahead.

>

> woo woo!

>

> but now listen ales..

>

> you little punk...

>

> when i get more votes to stay..

>

> get the hell out of here..

>

> and go worship somewhere else you little numb skull.

>

> or stick around but baba will not allow you to worship him.

>

> the Conquering Hero hath spoken!

>

> .b b.b. is the Great Equal even among all other lesser beings.

>

> non-personally i can't stand him.

>

> i'm better than that.

>

> wait now..

>

> that's dabbo's deal.

>

> the Good..the Better...the Best..

>

> and the downright Bad.

>

> nasty stuff that.

>

> it comes from worshiping you know.

>

> worshipers NEED to believe that what they are worshiping..

>

> is the Best of the Good..

>

> that they are RIGHT in that worship...

>

> and that everyone and everything else is wrong and bad.

>

> talk about numb skull kids eh?

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , <alesadamek@> wrote:

> >

> > dear small adolescent bob,

> >

> > you must read maharaj books and his master (Siddharameshwar) books again and

again and again.

> >

> > and i recommend you to go to india and visit some close maharaj disciples,

which are still alive (they are very old, but alive:)

> >

> > they will say you - small boy, thay maharaj sai very often (and his master

also)

> >

> > that devotion will not leave you after realization - devotion and worship

was with him till hthey left body.

> >

> > you cannot imagine how they worshipped their gurus.

> >

> > please if you want to be there In conference focused on maharaj teaching,

either try to understand advaita teaching wholly or go to another conference

(like Ku-Klux-Klan) where you can swear like trooper

> >

> > Jai Guru

> > Ales

> >

> > p.s.:

> > even Balsekar, whom I visited few days before he left body and also before

said many times that devotion is bullshit, but after his affair with girls he

started daily sing bhajans

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________

> > > Od: " BobN "

> > > Komu: Nisargadatta

> > > Datum: 28.01.2010 20:43

> > > Předmět: Re: courage for growth

> > >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > that's fair..

> >

> > i'd kick YOUR ass out of Nisargadatta's place too.

> >

> > if i had to show you the doors though..

> >

> > i'd consider you a nincompoop.

> >

> > i mean you must have seen them when you came in right?

> >

> > likely Nis and baba would have kicked each other's asses..

> >

> > and laughed about how we hadn't been touched...

> >

> > because we weren't really there.

> >

> > you're a sickeningly sweet needy fundamentalist ales.

> >

> > you want to worship and have others worship too.

> >

> > hell i don't want to belong to a group with you in it.

> >

> > so when i get the most votes..

> >

> > and your side loses.

> >

> > get out ok.

> >

> > thank you so much.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Nisargadatta , wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Bob,

> > >

> > > I voted and I was not angry, I wass happy and i am happy and I would vote

again to remove you from list as soon as possible

> > >

> > > i just said - that to remove you from this list is best choice

> > >

> > > why?

> > >

> > > because as I said before, I am sure that Maharaj would after few seconds

with showed you doors (but most likely you would not come close to him, because

your mind (and body of course) is too dirty to alive in Maharaj presence -

> > >

> > > yours comments are no contribution for me, just destruction of all fresh,

beutiful, true and eternal - some of characters of advaita final teaching

> > >

> > > Jai Guru

> > >

> > > Ales

> > >

> > > ________

> > > > Od: " BobN "

> > > > Komu: Nisargadatta

> > > > Datum: 28.01.2010 17:28

> > > > Předmět: Re: Hey Voters

> > > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > No problem, Lene,

> > > > >

> > > > > Login to wite new names and you can vote again. 10 new logins

with 10 new names will supply Bob with 10 additional votes.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok, they are fake votes but if you really love Bob you will do it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > > it takes a worried worm..

> > > >

> > > > to sing a worried song.

> > > >

> > > > wernie poo-pants!

> > > >

> > > > now we know what you're up to.

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > > you sorry ass loser.

> > > >

> > > > if you can't get anyone to join you..

> > > >

> > > > make'em up!

> > > >

> > > > that's your philosophy huh?

> > > >

> > > > and you're stupid enough to give it away above.

> > > >

> > > > and even more stupid to think that no one will figure it out.

> > > >

> > > > our daring little dolt.

> > > >

> > > > onward dummkopf soldier!

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bob, Marc and others,

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > there is something from Dasboadh - book, from which every day some

devotee was reading in Khetwadi (Nisargadatta flat) during puja and before

Maharaj speech.

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > One of chapter is for you, please read it attentively.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > Ales

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > THE TENTH SAMAS †" UTTAMPURUSHNIRUPAN (ABOUT THE VIRTUOUS)

> > > > Just as feeding others with the leftover when you have had to the full

> > > > is no pious deed, not imparting the knowledge which you have to others

isn’t too. You should first

> > > > be blissful with the knowledge of the self and then without any

expectation make others also happy

> > > > by sharing that knowledge with them.

> > > > First acquire the virtues and then tell others about them. The

> > > > knowledgeable shouldn’t leave the Sadhana. Your whole being

should be utilized for the others.

> > > > The whole approach towards the others should be philanthropic. You

should be happy when others

> > > > are and should share the grief of others. You should forgive the

mistakes made by others. Try for

> > > > the total benefit of others by which most would come to you for help

which you should offer

> > > > readily. You should also be able to read others’ mind and

behave accordingly.

> > > > Talk only when necessary. Answer the queries of all. Never be angry

> > > > on any count. Work zealously for others. Never mind the abuses of

others. Never speak or do

> > > > anything which would harm others. Whatever best comes your way should

be nonchalantly given

> > > > to others. If you behave in accordance with the goal of your life then

many get attracted to you.

> > > > Such a man is known all over as the virtuous one. The God is happy

> > > > with his worship. He should never allow his temper to be lost in any

given condition. Those who

> > > > can influence even the most vicious are really great indeed. For all

these things you have to forget

> > > > the body mind intellect conglomerate and its happiness.

> > > > The Bhagwadgeeta says that pride; anger and harsh talk are the signs

> > > > of lack of knowledge. The virtuous never allow these things to come

anywhere near them. Such

> > > > people should help all those who are needy. Try to convince them to

tread the path of worship.

> > > > They never ask anything from their disciples except the worship of the

God.

> > > > Shree Samarth says that such a man should lead the masses but

> > > > sometimes he should listen to them may be just for the sake of it. He

should never be too far away

> > > > from them virtually, though in fact he is. He should try to pull

everyone towards the desired goal

> > > > with a different speed suitable to that individual. All in all he

should be a true leader of the masses

> > > > in the real sense.

> > > > END OF THE TENTH SAMAS

> > > > END OF THE TWELFTH DASHAK of DASBOADH

> > >

> > > wernie...

> > >

> > > Ten Hut!

> > >

> > > oops..

> > >

> > > that's Aufmerksamkeit! for you little wormie.

> > >

> > > " Never be angry on any count. Work zealously for others. Never mind

> > >

> > > the abuses of others. "

> > >

> > > got that asshole?

> > >

> > > OK then.

> > >

> > > my query for you is why you fail on this test proposed by ales?

> > >

> > > remember now..

> > >

> > > " Answer the queries of all. "

> > >

> > > there's a good little worm.

> > >

> > > ales..

> > >

> > > i particularly like the part that says never be angry here.

> > >

> > > have you noticed that i'm always enjoying whatever goes down?

> > >

> > > without a speck of anger too.

> > >

> > > and baba always answers the queries of any and all.

> > >

> > > with a laugh and a giggle and a ho ho ho..

> > >

> > > holy petulant petunias i'm a friggin' saint!

> > >

> > > i now DEMAND that you go and change your cheesy vote!

> > >

> > > yes ales you better watch out.

> > >

> > > i'm keeping a list and checking it twice.

> > >

> > > and so far you've been a naughty little devotee!

> > >

> > > Redemption is yours if you repent and revote!

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

>

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