Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 <snip>> > > P: Well, I don't know if it qualifies as a koan,> > > but it's a very hard bone for a philosophical> > > old dog to chew on.> > >> > > Negation in language is a dark horse. > >> > Classic!> >> > > It seems to be,> > > while being not. Negation needs a positing of an> > > existent to negate. So, as Sartre stated being precedes > > > nothingness because all negations need a something to> > > negate. A nothingness that negates no thing can only> > > negate itself. And so, an ontological nothingness is> > > the oxymoron par excellence. One, that never can > > > transcends the realm of intuition, and be coherently> > > verbalized.> >> > The word " nothingness " is a tarbaby, a gleam in a philosopher's> > eye. And " nothing " more. > >> > The notion of " nothingness " , in any ontological sense, is> > a philosophical muddle. But it can still be a useful idea> > when it is seen as merely an idea, and not at as *reference > > to something* (urr, nothing).> >> > Bill>> Yes, there's isn't any attempt to be referring to something.>> Hence, it's epistemological rather than ontological. Well, yes at least in the sense that epistemological seemsless fanciful than ontological. I mean, ontological seemsoutright rubbish, while epistemological seems conceivablylegitimate. Maybe.> > Has to do with the limitation of knowing, and of the known.Oooh.... hmmm... don't know! (Ah! and that not an intentional pun!)I can deal with a notion of " unknown " if only vaguely and metaphorically, while a notion of " known " ... what the hellis that?! Wherever that is, it must be in the same generalvicinity as unicorns.Bottom line: known and unknown both useless conceptsfrom this POV. In this richly saturated, pulsating moment notions such as those have no bearing... but then notionsin general have no bearing for that matter. This livingnessout of which words seems to spew (occasionally)... just is... notions of any kind have no more bearing than a few twirling leaves have to the wind. The wind could not care less.Bill>> - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.