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Nisargadatta , Bill Rishel <illusyn wrote:

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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:48 AM, geo <inandor wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Bill Rishel

> > Nisargadatta

> > Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:29 PM

> > Re: Re: Nothingness' Koan

> >

> > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > >

> > > -geo-

> >

> > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> >

> > what are you talking about?

> >

> > never seen one

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > -geo-

> >

>

> " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> Even " This " is a construct.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy is

> nothing more than a continual rain

> of particles of sensation. [That is not

> an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> the best I can do.]

>

> To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> any " something " is a narrowing of

> attention to less than total, open

> expansion.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy

> means any notion such as " this

> is my experience " is impossible.

>

> Only continual change, continual

> novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

>

> Bill

 

 

you would agree that the above summation..

 

is merely an opinion that you hold.

 

and that it " doesn't stick " itself.

 

it's merely more fodder for the hungry figments of folly..

 

it signifies nothing.

 

it is meaningless..unimportant..trivial..

 

to all and everything but yourself..

 

it holds a glamor for you in that you feel it is:

 

" correct " and " worthy " of consideration by others.

 

it is not of course.

 

but that's just my opinion which is of the same value.

 

" continual change " and/or " absolute staying " ..

 

both nothing more nor less than bullshit garbling of " what is " .

 

it's fun to believe otherwise.

 

it's fun to chit chat.

 

it's fun to bullshit ourselves as well as others.

 

boys and girls just want to have fun.

 

but no one really knows their ass from a hole in the ground..

 

as to " what's going on..or not " .

 

pronouncements such as given above..

 

are tentative stabs at the unknown.

 

they never hit the mark.

 

barking dogs may very well have a clearer notion...

 

and tighter communication.

 

and no one among us will ever know.

 

..b b.b.

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> Od: "Bill Rishel" <illusyn

> Komu: Nisargadatta

> Datum: 07.02.2010 00:32

> Předmět: Re: Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:48 AM, geo <inandor wrote:

>

>

>

> -

> Bill Rishel

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:29 PM

> Re: Re: Nothingness' Koan

>

> > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, "known",

> > aware-ed...just as it is.

> >

> > -geo-

>

> the "whole manifestation"....????

>

> what are you talking about?

>

> never seen one

>

> Bill

>

> What is wrong with "whole manifestation"?

> Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> Or..."where" is it taking "place"?

> -geo-

>

 

"Whole manifestation" is a construct.

Even "This" is a construct.

 

Absolute presence in immediacy is

nothing more than a continual rain

of particles of sensation. [That is not

an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

but rather a connotative "suggestion",

the best I can do.]

 

To be "seeing" or "acknowledging"

any "something" is a narrowing of

attention to less than total, open

expansion.

 

Absolute presence in immediacy

means any notion such as "this

is my experience" is impossible.

 

Only continual change, continual

novelty. Nothing "sticks".

 

Bill

 

 

 

you are whole manifestation,

 

you are everything

 

you are That

 

Ales

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Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote:

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>

>

> ____________

> > Od: " Bill Rishel "

> > Komu: Nisargadatta

> > Datum: 07.02.2010 00:32

> > Předmět: Re: Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

> >

>  

>

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:48 AM, geo wrote:

> >

> >  

> >

> > -

> > Bill Rishel

> > Nisargadatta

> > Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:29 PM

> > Re: Re: Nothingness' Koan

> >

> > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > >

> > > -geo-

> >

> > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> >

> > what are you talking about?

> >

> > never seen one

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > -geo-

> >

>

> " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> Even " This " is a construct.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy is

> nothing more than a continual rain

> of particles of sensation. [That is not

> an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> the best I can do.]

>

> To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> any " something " is a narrowing of

> attention to less than total, open

> expansion.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy

> means any notion such as " this

> is my experience " is impossible.

>

> Only continual change, continual

> novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>  

>

> you are whole manifestation,

>

>  

>

> you are everything

>

>  

>

> you are That

>

>  

>

> Ales

>

 

 

Nice that you are still here and that you are honoring with your presence the

teaching of Nis.

 

Now again:

 

Consciousness is all there is. Everything else are ideas and conecpts. The 'I

am' and consciousness is the same.

 

The contents of consciousness are the only manifestation. You are consciousness

or you are the 'I am' because consciousness is totally subjective. It is this

total subjectivity of consciousness='I am' which does justify to say 'You are

that'.

 

Your consciousness='I am' is unique. No one else has the same consciousness as

your's, no one else.

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote:

>

>

>

> ____________

> > Od: " Bill Rishel "

> > Komu: Nisargadatta

> > Datum: 07.02.2010 00:32

> > Předmět: Re: Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

> >

>  

>

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:48 AM, geo wrote:

> >

> >  

> >

> > -

> > Bill Rishel

> > Nisargadatta

> > Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:29 PM

> > Re: Re: Nothingness' Koan

> >

> > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > >

> > > -geo-

> >

> > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> >

> > what are you talking about?

> >

> > never seen one

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > -geo-

> >

>

> " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> Even " This " is a construct.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy is

> nothing more than a continual rain

> of particles of sensation. [That is not

> an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> the best I can do.]

>

> To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> any " something " is a narrowing of

> attention to less than total, open

> expansion.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy

> means any notion such as " this

> is my experience " is impossible.

>

> Only continual change, continual

> novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>  

>

> you are whole manifestation,

>

>  

>

> you are everything

>

>  

>

> you are That

>

>  

>

> Ales

 

 

there is no " you " .

 

" you " is nothing.

 

welllll...

 

actually " you " isn't even that.

 

let alone " THAT " .

 

saying that you are " THAT " ..

 

well...that's just plain ridiculous!

 

you've misunderstood the comic book you've been reading.

 

..b b.b.

 

..

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , <alesadamek@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________

> > > Od: " Bill Rishel "

> > > Komu: Nisargadatta

> > > Datum: 07.02.2010 00:32

> > > Předmět: Re: Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

> > >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:48 AM, geo wrote:

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > -

> > > Bill Rishel

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:29 PM

> > > Re: Re: Nothingness' Koan

> > >

> > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > >

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > >

> > > what are you talking about?

> > >

> > > never seen one

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > Even " This " is a construct.

> >

> > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > nothing more than a continual rain

> > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > the best I can do.]

> >

> > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > attention to less than total, open

> > expansion.

> >

> > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > means any notion such as " this

> > is my experience " is impossible.

> >

> > Only continual change, continual

> > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> > you are whole manifestation,

> >

> >  

> >

> > you are everything

> >

> >  

> >

> > you are That

> >

> >  

> >

> > Ales

> >

>

>

> Nice that you are still here and that you are honoring with your presence the

teaching of Nis.

>

> Now again:

>

> Consciousness is all there is. Everything else are ideas and conecpts. The 'I

am' and consciousness is the same.

>

> The contents of consciousness are the only manifestation. You are

consciousness or you are the 'I am' because consciousness is totally subjective.

It is this total subjectivity of consciousness='I am' which does justify to say

'You are that'.

>

> Your consciousness='I am' is unique. No one else has the same consciousness as

your's, no one else.

>

> Werner

 

 

thank God you understand that you're unique wernie.

 

no one would want to be lumped together with..

 

nor considered to be the same as...

 

that misguided and rather ridiculous thing..

 

that you call mistakenly name as your " consciousness " .

 

it's a wonder that you can see that you are below everyone else.

 

did you get thicker glasses?

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

 

p.s.

 

now that you've cleaned off your spectacles somewhat..

 

maybe you could clean those long locks a bit too...

 

or get a haircut.

 

[.bx3]

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > >

> > > -geo-

> >

> > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> >

> > what are you talking about?

> >

> > never seen one

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > -geo-

> >

>

> " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> Even " This " is a construct.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy is

> nothing more than a continual rain

> of particles of sensation. [That is not

> an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> the best I can do.]

>

> To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> any " something " is a narrowing of

> attention to less than total, open

> expansion.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy

> means any notion such as " this

> is my experience " is impossible.

>

> Only continual change, continual

> novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

>

> Bill

>

> Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But consider....without

> the manifested aspect of what is

> the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " . You

> yourself say " is nothing more

> than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way " continual

> rain of particles of sensation " is different

> from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> senses.

> -geo-

 

 

we understand what you're trying to say.

 

it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

 

it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

 

nice try and even nicer failure considering.

 

..b b.b.

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> > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > aware-ed...just as it is.

> >

> > -geo-

>

> the " whole manifestation " ....????

>

> what are you talking about?

>

> never seen one

>

> Bill

>

> What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> -geo-

>

 

" Whole manifestation " is a construct.

Even " This " is a construct.

 

Absolute presence in immediacy is

nothing more than a continual rain

of particles of sensation. [That is not

an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

the best I can do.]

 

To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

any " something " is a narrowing of

attention to less than total, open

expansion.

 

Absolute presence in immediacy

means any notion such as " this

is my experience " is impossible.

 

Only continual change, continual

novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

 

Bill

 

Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But consider....without

the manifested aspect of what is

the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " . You

yourself say " is nothing more

than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way " continual

rain of particles of sensation " is different

from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

senses.

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:51 AM

> Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > >

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > >

> > > what are you talking about?

> > >

> > > never seen one

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > Even " This " is a construct.

> >

> > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > nothing more than a continual rain

> > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > the best I can do.]

> >

> > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > attention to less than total, open

> > expansion.

> >

> > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > means any notion such as " this

> > is my experience " is impossible.

> >

> > Only continual change, continual

> > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But consider....without

> > the manifested aspect of what is

> > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " . You

> > yourself say " is nothing more

> > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way " continual

> > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > senses.

> > -geo-

>

> we understand what you're trying to say.

>

> it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

>

> it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

>

> nice try and even nicer failure considering.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Here in brazil we say " more sense than what Bill... "

> Anything else you should need just let me know.

> -geo-

 

 

you still believe that there's a " Brazil " ?

 

you still believe that there is a " you " ?

 

you still believe that there is such a thing as " making sense " ?

 

you still believe there is such a thing as " believing " ?

 

you still seem to be trying.

 

yet you are still failing.

 

well considering..

 

as the toombaru thing that isn't wouldn't say:

 

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta

Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:51 AM

Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > >

> > > -geo-

> >

> > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> >

> > what are you talking about?

> >

> > never seen one

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > -geo-

> >

>

> " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> Even " This " is a construct.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy is

> nothing more than a continual rain

> of particles of sensation. [That is not

> an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> the best I can do.]

>

> To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> any " something " is a narrowing of

> attention to less than total, open

> expansion.

>

> Absolute presence in immediacy

> means any notion such as " this

> is my experience " is impossible.

>

> Only continual change, continual

> novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

>

> Bill

>

> Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But consider....without

> the manifested aspect of what is

> the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " . You

> yourself say " is nothing more

> than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way " continual

> rain of particles of sensation " is different

> from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> senses.

> -geo-

 

we understand what you're trying to say.

 

it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

 

it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

 

nice try and even nicer failure considering.

 

..b b.b.

 

Here in brazil we say " more sense than what Bill... "

Anything else you should need just let me know.

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > >

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > >

> > > what are you talking about?

> > >

> > > never seen one

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > Even " This " is a construct.

> >

> > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > nothing more than a continual rain

> > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > the best I can do.]

> >

> > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > attention to less than total, open

> > expansion.

> >

> > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > means any notion such as " this

> > is my experience " is impossible.

> >

> > Only continual change, continual

> > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But consider....without

> > the manifested aspect of what is

> > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " . You

> > yourself say " is nothing more

> > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way " continual

> > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > senses.

> > -geo-

>

>

> we understand what you're trying to say.

>

> it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

>

> it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

>

> nice try and even nicer failure considering.

>

> .b b.b.

 

P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

>

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > > >

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > > >

> > > > what are you talking about?

> > > >

> > > > never seen one

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > > Even " This " is a construct.

> > >

> > > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > > nothing more than a continual rain

> > > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > > the best I can do.]

> > >

> > > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > > attention to less than total, open

> > > expansion.

> > >

> > > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > > means any notion such as " this

> > > is my experience " is impossible.

> > >

> > > Only continual change, continual

> > > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But consider....without

> > > the manifested aspect of what is

> > > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " . You

> > > yourself say " is nothing more

> > > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way " continual

> > > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > > senses.

> > > -geo-

> >

> >

> > we understand what you're trying to say.

> >

> > it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

> >

> > it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

> >

> > nice try and even nicer failure considering.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

> as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

> offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

> food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

> everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

> not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

> platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

> fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

 

 

i wasn't heckling Bill at all.

 

i indeed was agreeing with him in post # 83352..

 

beginning:

 

" you would agree that the above summation..

 

is merely an opinion that you hold. "

 

and then discreetly inserting that my opinion was no better or worse.

 

that it was and always is of the same useless value.

 

that's how food tastes to me and it has little to do with thought.

 

it places absolutely no actual " value " on thought..

 

whether that thought is considered..yours..his...or mine.

 

or is considered just floating " stuff'..

 

which is erroneously believed to emanate from any particularized node.

 

i was however heckling geoparado.

 

but that was just a useless thought of mine.

 

but it sure tasted fine!

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

 

p.s.

 

i like my sushi cooked.

 

and despite living with the Inuit here in Canada..

 

(we all know you need snowshoes from the Detroit border onward)...

 

i eat all my fish cooked.

 

except Whale blubber which we all chew raw like bubble gum.

 

Whale is a wonderful girl.

 

she lives in the third igloo to the left of here.

 

[.bx3]

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:10 PM

> Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > > >

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > > >

> > > > what are you talking about?

> > > >

> > > > never seen one

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > > Even " This " is a construct.

> > >

> > > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > > nothing more than a continual rain

> > > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > > the best I can do.]

> > >

> > > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > > attention to less than total, open

> > > expansion.

> > >

> > > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > > means any notion such as " this

> > > is my experience " is impossible.

> > >

> > > Only continual change, continual

> > > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But

> > > consider....without

> > > the manifested aspect of what is

> > > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " . You

> > > yourself say " is nothing more

> > > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way " continual

> > > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > > senses.

> > > -geo-

> >

> >

> > we understand what you're trying to say.

> >

> > it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

> >

> > it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

> >

> > nice try and even nicer failure considering.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

> as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

> offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

> food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

> everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

> not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

> platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

> fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

>

> geo> Cunilingus? Remembering the good ol'days together? :>)

 

 

yeah we kept those chicks happy.

 

we guys often get together and gab about that stuff.

 

do you remember giving blowjobs when you think of the old days geo?

 

do you get together with the boys and reminisce too?

 

well as you surmised we do things differently up here.

 

that's why we have different memories.

 

we think and do things differently from you and your pals.

 

but whatever you boys enjoyed together is ok by us.

 

and please..

 

let what happened in Brazil stay in Brazil ok?

 

thanks for keeping those memories to yourselves.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:10 PM

> > Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > > > >

> > > > > what are you talking about?

> > > > >

> > > > > never seen one

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > > > Even " This " is a construct.

> > > >

> > > > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > > > nothing more than a continual rain

> > > > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > > > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > > > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > > > the best I can do.]

> > > >

> > > > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > > > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > > > attention to less than total, open

> > > > expansion.

> > > >

> > > > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > > > means any notion such as " this

> > > > is my experience " is impossible.

> > > >

> > > > Only continual change, continual

> > > > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But

> > > > consider....without

> > > > the manifested aspect of what is

> > > > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " . You

> > > > yourself say " is nothing more

> > > > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way " continual

> > > > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > > > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > > > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > > > senses.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > >

> > > we understand what you're trying to say.

> > >

> > > it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

> > >

> > > it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

> > >

> > > nice try and even nicer failure considering.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

> > as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

> > offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

> > food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

> > everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

> > not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

> > platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

> > fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

> >

> > geo> Cunilingus? Remembering the good ol'days together? :>)

>

>

> yeah we kept those chicks happy.

>

> we guys often get together and gab about that stuff.

>

> do you remember giving blowjobs when you think of the old days geo?

 

Wow... now we're *really* on-topic re: Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj.

 

Keep talkin', babbo ;-).

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cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:10 PM

Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > >

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > >

> > > what are you talking about?

> > >

> > > never seen one

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > Even " This " is a construct.

> >

> > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > nothing more than a continual rain

> > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > the best I can do.]

> >

> > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > attention to less than total, open

> > expansion.

> >

> > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > means any notion such as " this

> > is my experience " is impossible.

> >

> > Only continual change, continual

> > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But

> > consider....without

> > the manifested aspect of what is

> > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " . You

> > yourself say " is nothing more

> > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way " continual

> > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > senses.

> > -geo-

>

>

> we understand what you're trying to say.

>

> it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

>

> it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

>

> nice try and even nicer failure considering.

>

> .b b.b.

 

P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

 

geo> Cunilingus? Remembering the good ol'days together? :>)

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, February 07, 2010 5:08 PM

> Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:10 PM

> > Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > > > >

> > > > > what are you talking about?

> > > > >

> > > > > never seen one

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > > > Even " This " is a construct.

> > > >

> > > > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > > > nothing more than a continual rain

> > > > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > > > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > > > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > > > the best I can do.]

> > > >

> > > > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > > > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > > > attention to less than total, open

> > > > expansion.

> > > >

> > > > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > > > means any notion such as " this

> > > > is my experience " is impossible.

> > > >

> > > > Only continual change, continual

> > > > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But

> > > > consider....without

> > > > the manifested aspect of what is

> > > > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " .

> > > > You

> > > > yourself say " is nothing more

> > > > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way

> > > > " continual

> > > > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > > > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > > > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > > > senses.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > >

> > > we understand what you're trying to say.

> > >

> > > it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

> > >

> > > it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

> > >

> > > nice try and even nicer failure considering.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

> > as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

> > offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

> > food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

> > everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

> > not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

> > platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

> > fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

> >

> > geo> Cunilingus? Remembering the good ol'days together? :>)

>

> yeah we kept those chicks happy.

>

> we guys often get together and gab about that stuff.

>

> do you remember giving blowjobs when you think of the old days geo?

> -bbb-

>

> Yea. Then when you take a new breath you hold the outer lips tight....then

> slowly let the air escape through your fingers. Some of them love it!!

> Then blow again...

> -geo-

>

> do you get together with the boys and reminisce too?

> -bbb-

>

> Sometimes it happened yes...at the beach... after a party...two or three

> couples. But not all girls enjoy that. Besides I prefer just the two of us,

> thats me and her.

> -geo-

>

> well as you surmised we do things differently up here.

> -bbb-

>

> UP there?? Do you really fancy you are higher then the USA or Chile? No

> sir, that is just a childish belief...like santa!

> -geo-

>

> that's why we have different memories.

>

> we think and do things differently from you and your pals.

>

> but whatever you boys enjoyed together is ok by us.

>

> and please..

>

> let what happened in Brazil stay in Brazil ok?

>

> thanks for keeping those memories to yourselves.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Whatever happened must stay wherever it " was " anyway - no choice.

> -geo-

>

 

 

Do you two think you did a good job?

 

ac

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > cerosoul

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:10 PM

> > > Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what are you talking about?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > never seen one

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > > > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > > > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > > > > Even " This " is a construct.

> > > > >

> > > > > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > > > > nothing more than a continual rain

> > > > > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > > > > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > > > > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > > > > the best I can do.]

> > > > >

> > > > > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > > > > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > > > > attention to less than total, open

> > > > > expansion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > > > > means any notion such as " this

> > > > > is my experience " is impossible.

> > > > >

> > > > > Only continual change, continual

> > > > > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But

> > > > > consider....without

> > > > > the manifested aspect of what is

> > > > > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " .

You

> > > > > yourself say " is nothing more

> > > > > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way

" continual

> > > > > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > > > > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > > > > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > > > > senses.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > we understand what you're trying to say.

> > > >

> > > > it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

> > > >

> > > > it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

> > > >

> > > > nice try and even nicer failure considering.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

> > > as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

> > > offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

> > > food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

> > > everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

> > > not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

> > > platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

> > > fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

> > >

> > > geo> Cunilingus? Remembering the good ol'days together? :>)

> >

> >

> > yeah we kept those chicks happy.

> >

> > we guys often get together and gab about that stuff.

> >

> > do you remember giving blowjobs when you think of the old days geo?

>

> Wow... now we're *really* on-topic re: Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj.

>

> Keep talkin', babbo ;-).

 

 

wow timmytotrot..

 

baba was just following up on a topic..

 

created by Pete and followed up by geo.

 

and now you follow up on me.

 

seems it grabbed your interest..

 

when it got to the sweet boys will be boys part.

 

and not when it just was Pete's comment on the boys on the girls part.

 

figures now doesn't it?

 

how's your friend dabbo doin'?

 

maybe you just got excited thinking about him with my comment to geo.

 

wow!

 

hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, February 07, 2010 5:08 PM

> Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:10 PM

> > Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > > > >

> > > > > what are you talking about?

> > > > >

> > > > > never seen one

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > > > Even " This " is a construct.

> > > >

> > > > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > > > nothing more than a continual rain

> > > > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > > > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > > > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > > > the best I can do.]

> > > >

> > > > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > > > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > > > attention to less than total, open

> > > > expansion.

> > > >

> > > > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > > > means any notion such as " this

> > > > is my experience " is impossible.

> > > >

> > > > Only continual change, continual

> > > > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But

> > > > consider....without

> > > > the manifested aspect of what is

> > > > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " .

> > > > You

> > > > yourself say " is nothing more

> > > > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way

> > > > " continual

> > > > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > > > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > > > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > > > senses.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > >

> > > we understand what you're trying to say.

> > >

> > > it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

> > >

> > > it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

> > >

> > > nice try and even nicer failure considering.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

> > as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

> > offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

> > food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

> > everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

> > not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

> > platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

> > fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

> >

> > geo> Cunilingus? Remembering the good ol'days together? :>)

>

> yeah we kept those chicks happy.

>

> we guys often get together and gab about that stuff.

>

> do you remember giving blowjobs when you think of the old days geo?

> -bbb-

>

> Yea. Then when you take a new breath you hold the outer lips tight....then

> slowly let the air escape through your fingers. Some of them love it!!

> Then blow again...

> -geo-

>

> do you get together with the boys and reminisce too?

> -bbb-

>

> Sometimes it happened yes...at the beach... after a party...two or three

> couples. But not all girls enjoy that. Besides I prefer just the two of us,

> thats me and her.

> -geo-

>

> well as you surmised we do things differently up here.

> -bbb-

>

> UP there?? Do you really fancy you are higher then the USA or Chile? No

> sir, that is just a childish belief...like santa!

> -geo-

>

> that's why we have different memories.

>

> we think and do things differently from you and your pals.

>

> but whatever you boys enjoyed together is ok by us.

>

> and please..

>

> let what happened in Brazil stay in Brazil ok?

>

> thanks for keeping those memories to yourselves.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Whatever happened must stay wherever it " was " anyway - no choice.

> -geo-

 

 

thanks for sharing that.

 

and ONLY that.

 

good choice!

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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BobN

Nisargadatta

Sunday, February 07, 2010 5:08 PM

Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:10 PM

> Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > > >

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > > >

> > > > what are you talking about?

> > > >

> > > > never seen one

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > > Even " This " is a construct.

> > >

> > > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > > nothing more than a continual rain

> > > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > > the best I can do.]

> > >

> > > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > > attention to less than total, open

> > > expansion.

> > >

> > > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > > means any notion such as " this

> > > is my experience " is impossible.

> > >

> > > Only continual change, continual

> > > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But

> > > consider....without

> > > the manifested aspect of what is

> > > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " .

> > > You

> > > yourself say " is nothing more

> > > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way

> > > " continual

> > > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > > senses.

> > > -geo-

> >

> >

> > we understand what you're trying to say.

> >

> > it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

> >

> > it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

> >

> > nice try and even nicer failure considering.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

> as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

> offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

> food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

> everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

> not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

> platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

> fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

>

> geo> Cunilingus? Remembering the good ol'days together? :>)

 

yeah we kept those chicks happy.

 

we guys often get together and gab about that stuff.

 

do you remember giving blowjobs when you think of the old days geo?

-bbb-

 

Yea. Then when you take a new breath you hold the outer lips tight....then

slowly let the air escape through your fingers. Some of them love it!!

Then blow again...

-geo-

 

do you get together with the boys and reminisce too?

-bbb-

 

Sometimes it happened yes...at the beach... after a party...two or three

couples. But not all girls enjoy that. Besides I prefer just the two of us,

thats me and her.

-geo-

 

well as you surmised we do things differently up here.

-bbb-

 

UP there?? Do you really fancy you are higher then the USA or Chile? No

sir, that is just a childish belief...like santa!

-geo-

 

that's why we have different memories.

 

we think and do things differently from you and your pals.

 

but whatever you boys enjoyed together is ok by us.

 

and please..

 

let what happened in Brazil stay in Brazil ok?

 

thanks for keeping those memories to yourselves.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

 

Whatever happened must stay wherever it " was " anyway - no choice.

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Sunday, February 07, 2010 5:08 PM

> > Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > cerosoul

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:10 PM

> > > Re: Nothingness' Koan/Geo

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > The whole manifestation is being acknowledged, seen, " known " ,

> > > > > > > aware-ed...just as it is.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the " whole manifestation " ....????

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what are you talking about?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > never seen one

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is wrong with " whole manifestation " ?

> > > > > > Is it not being aknowledged/seen?

> > > > > > Or... " where " is it taking " place " ?

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " Whole manifestation " is a construct.

> > > > > Even " This " is a construct.

> > > > >

> > > > > Absolute presence in immediacy is

> > > > > nothing more than a continual rain

> > > > > of particles of sensation. [That is not

> > > > > an explicit definition (i.e. not denotative),

> > > > > but rather a connotative " suggestion " ,

> > > > > the best I can do.]

> > > > >

> > > > > To be " seeing " or " acknowledging "

> > > > > any " something " is a narrowing of

> > > > > attention to less than total, open

> > > > > expansion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Absolute presence in immediacy

> > > > > means any notion such as " this

> > > > > is my experience " is impossible.

> > > > >

> > > > > Only continual change, continual

> > > > > novelty. Nothing " sticks " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Bill. I understand what you are trying to say. But

> > > > > consider....without

> > > > > the manifested aspect of what is

> > > > > the non-manifested could not be acknowledged as " absolute presence " .

> > > > > You

> > > > > yourself say " is nothing more

> > > > > than a continual rain of particles of sensation " . In what way

> > > > > " continual

> > > > > rain of particles of sensation " is different

> > > > > from " manifestation " ? From here manifestation is the

> > > > > world/perceptions/mind/consciousness constructed through the

> > > > > senses.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > we understand what you're trying to say.

> > > >

> > > > it's a good thing that you haven't succeeded in saying it though.

> > > >

> > > > it doesn't make any more sense that what Bill tried to say but didn't.

> > > >

> > > > nice try and even nicer failure considering.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > P: Bob, I agree with you that anyone offering concepts

> > > as truth ought to be smack down, But Bill is not

> > > offering a menu as food. He is just discussing how

> > > food taste to him, and that is useful, and I wish

> > > everyone would do the same. Tell us what you taste,

> > > not what you think. So don't reject, offhand, the

> > > platter of sushi he is offering you. I know you like

> > > fish! You, old cunilingus nut.

> > >

> > > geo> Cunilingus? Remembering the good ol'days together? :>)

> >

> > yeah we kept those chicks happy.

> >

> > we guys often get together and gab about that stuff.

> >

> > do you remember giving blowjobs when you think of the old days geo?

> > -bbb-

> >

> > Yea. Then when you take a new breath you hold the outer lips tight....then

> > slowly let the air escape through your fingers. Some of them love it!!

> > Then blow again...

> > -geo-

> >

> > do you get together with the boys and reminisce too?

> > -bbb-

> >

> > Sometimes it happened yes...at the beach... after a party...two or three

> > couples. But not all girls enjoy that. Besides I prefer just the two of us,

> > thats me and her.

> > -geo-

> >

> > well as you surmised we do things differently up here.

> > -bbb-

> >

> > UP there?? Do you really fancy you are higher then the USA or Chile? No

> > sir, that is just a childish belief...like santa!

> > -geo-

> >

> > that's why we have different memories.

> >

> > we think and do things differently from you and your pals.

> >

> > but whatever you boys enjoyed together is ok by us.

> >

> > and please..

> >

> > let what happened in Brazil stay in Brazil ok?

> >

> > thanks for keeping those memories to yourselves.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Whatever happened must stay wherever it " was " anyway - no choice.

> > -geo-

> >

>

>

> Do you two think you did a good job?

>

> ac

 

 

are you seriously asking him about his blow job?

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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> >

> > Do you two think you did a good job?

> >

> > ac

>

>

> are you seriously asking him about his blow job?

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

I meant to ask about the posting job. But, I made it double-meaning.

 

ac

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Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

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> [...]

>

> > >

> > > Do you two think you did a good job?

> > >

> > > ac

> >

> >

> > are you seriously asking him about his blow job?

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

>

> I meant to ask about the posting job. But, I made it double-meaning.

>

> ac

 

 

sure.

 

..b b.b.

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Consciousness is all there is. Everything else are ideas and conecpts. The 'I

am' and consciousness is the same.

 

The contents of consciousness are the only manifestation. You are consciousness

or you are the 'I am' because consciousness is totally subjective. It is this

total subjectivity of consciousness= 'I am' which does justify to say 'You are

that'.

 

Your consciousness= 'I am' is unique. No one else has the same consciousness as

your's, no one else.

 

Werner

 

 

true

 

no one else could take the responsibility for such mentionned consciousness

 

no " God "

 

no super consciousness

 

no Guru

 

etc

 

....

 

that's hard for striving little ego minds to get It...

 

....

 

means....they don't want It

 

....

 

means...they can't support/get It...

 

....

 

means...they can't support/get themSelf

 

....

 

 

lol

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