I AM THAT. /Geo/2

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[...] > > Dear Geo:> > > I am not sure, if I truly understand your question.> > > In deep dreamless sleep, both I and the other disappears. The entire world > with all its divisions and diversions disappears.> > > When the 'conscious' "I", the "I" that only rises in relation to the > "other" and that only rises with the other, disappears, the entire world > including all inner and outer disappears. Ultimately, only that undivided > reality is real because it is uncaused, unchanging and is without any > beginning or end. It is in the background of all events, happening, > thoughts, emotions. It is the changeless background of all that appears to > change.> -ac-> > Are you saying this (not sure though...)? I am not lecturing, just saying > how it is seen here. When it is understood that there is no inner separate > enity that does not mean that the world desapears. There is a jump, an > assumption in that. The world is still here alright except that i am the > world, there is nohting in the world that is not me. If this wordl is > further investigated i realize that I am not even it. I am that.... the > background -as you call it. I have two aspects, one changing and one > unchanging unborn, Right?> -geo-> ======> > By shifting focus inwards and towards this inner 'entity less' I AM, it can > be always accessed - one can reside in it - i.e. one can be 'in inner deep > sleep' while being awake externally. Anytime , I don't touch the individual, > separate 'sense of I', I am in that state - i.e. I am in in deep sleep - the > individual, separate mind is absent. That state is accessible, available and > eternally present.> > > Once "I" as an individual entity wake up, so does the division, the pain and > pleasure, the good and bad, the noble and evil too wakes up. Health feels > good. Disease feels painful. Compassions feels natural and effortless. > Hatred feels agitated, exhausting and painful. In this world, I know poison > can kill me; while fresh fruits and vegetables are likely to nourish my > body. This is the world, in which I know that reading Maharaj or Ramana is > likely to strengthen one kind of tendencies in me, while edaing pornography > is likely to strengthen the tendencies of another kind. This is the world > of objective reality.> > > While "awake" in this world of objective reality, I know, I as an > 'individual entity' a m responsible for the words I am writing here, for the > spelling mistakes I make, for the grammatical errors I make and for the > abuses, insults and the curse words that I use. This is the world in which I > can see and act to remove a stain on my bed-sheet or a thorn from feet. > This is the world, in which I can act to protect a kid from dog. This is > world in which I can ask someone to keep the streets clean and not throw > garbage on the street. This is the world in which I can ask someone to avoid > needlessly abusing others on a spiritual forum. When "I" as an 'individual > entity' is asleep, neither 'I', nor the 'other' nor the kid, dog or this > forum exist.> -ac-> > Are you suggesting that to be awake one is unable to act properly in the > world? One awake can not remove a stain on his bed-sheet? No, I am not saying that.I am saying that when 'I' woke up and 'I' see the stain on sheet, I as an 'conscious individual' decide to clean it. It is possible to do so without waking up the individual 'I' too, I usually don't act that way.> That would be insanity.> -geo-> > Yes, it is possible to act while staying being asleep 'within'. But, that is > not the way I live my life currently. Does living that way interests me? I > don't know. Does anyone live his life that way? I am not sure - maybe, > Ramana and Maharaj and maybe, not even them at least not 24/7, 365 days of a > year. Do I desire to live that way? I don't know. Do I want to slowly move > towards that? I haven't made up mind regarding that.> -ac-> > When you question how many hours this or that man is awake you are back to > the inner entity, greed, gossip, time, becoming.....Yes. That is how I spend a considerable part of my "awake" life. > -geo-> > > > > > > If I someone dumping garbage on street and don't ask him to stop, does it > mean I am beyond 'duality'? No, not necessarilly.> > > > > If I someone dumping garbage on street and do ask him to stop, does it mean > I am not beyond 'duality'? No, not necessarilly.> > > > > > > So, what was your question...?> > > regards,> ac