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I must confess I don't remember any longer how silence sounds.

Years ago, I started hearing a ringing that has never left, but I'm

not being accurate, my tinnitus is a monotone. Most of the time,

I'm oblivious to it. Consciousness needs change to stay focused.

It quickly ignores anything that doesn't change. So, this ringing is

my new silence. Novelty becomes normalcy if it persists.

 

We perceive because there is change. The immutable goes through

consciousness without leaving a trace like a neutrino through a

photographic plate. Now, there can't be awareness of change

without memory. Without remembering how it was, you could

not notice change. So your notion of time, also, depends on

memory.

 

Imagine losing your capacity to form new memories, but

remembering the long term memories that you formed before

the trauma, which caused your condition. In such case, you will

be stuck within that moment before the trauma. After a few

seconds, anything new that happens will become as if it never

happened, and it would seem to you, no time has passed since

your last memory. This would be to live like in a sort of hellish

immutable eternity where time doesn't pass, except for the sense

of confusion of why are you here, what were you doing, what

were you thinking before you forgot it?

 

There are a few people that live like this. It is food for thought.

Mind is memory, change and time are memory, the universe as

perceived is memory. Consciousness without memory doesn't

mean a thing. So, where is home? Don't use a word to answer

yourself. Let silence be. And if your ears ring, don't answer. ;)

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

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> I must confess I don't remember any longer how silence sounds.

> Years ago, I started hearing a ringing that has never left, but I'm

> not being accurate, my tinnitus is a monotone. Most of the time,

> I'm oblivious to it. Consciousness needs change to stay focused.

> It quickly ignores anything that doesn't change. So, this ringing is

> my new silence. Novelty becomes normalcy if it persists.

>

> We perceive because there is change. The immutable goes through

> consciousness without leaving a trace like a neutrino through a

> photographic plate. Now, there can't be awareness of change

> without memory. Without remembering how it was, you could

> not notice change. So your notion of time, also, depends on

> memory.

>

> Imagine losing your capacity to form new memories, but

> remembering the long term memories that you formed before

> the trauma, which caused your condition. In such case, you will

> be stuck within that moment before the trauma. After a few

> seconds, anything new that happens will become as if it never

> happened, and it would seem to you, no time has passed since

> your last memory. This would be to live like in a sort of hellish

> immutable eternity where time doesn't pass, except for the sense

> of confusion of why are you here, what were you doing, what

> were you thinking before you forgot it?

>

> There are a few people that live like this. It is food for thought.

> Mind is memory, change and time are memory, the universe as

> perceived is memory. Consciousness without memory doesn't

> mean a thing. So, where is home? Don't use a word to answer

> yourself. Let silence be. And if your ears ring, don't answer. ;)

>

 

 

Pete,

 

Thanks. Your post in a nice way is describing Nis's 'I Am'.

 

And - don't be afraid to state that consciousness or awareness itself IS memory.

 

The very first appearance and arising of consciousness is 'in' or 'as' the

sensory memory. Just Google 'sensory memory'.

 

Werner

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Tuesday, March 02, 2010 7:13 AM

Re: Time As Memmorable Change

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> I must confess I don't remember any longer how silence sounds.

> Years ago, I started hearing a ringing that has never left, but I'm

> not being accurate, my tinnitus is a monotone. Most of the time,

> I'm oblivious to it. Consciousness needs change to stay focused.

> It quickly ignores anything that doesn't change. So, this ringing is

> my new silence. Novelty becomes normalcy if it persists.

>

> We perceive because there is change. The immutable goes through

> consciousness without leaving a trace like a neutrino through a

> photographic plate. Now, there can't be awareness of change

> without memory. Without remembering how it was, you could

> not notice change. So your notion of time, also, depends on

> memory.

>

> Imagine losing your capacity to form new memories, but

> remembering the long term memories that you formed before

> the trauma, which caused your condition. In such case, you will

> be stuck within that moment before the trauma. After a few

> seconds, anything new that happens will become as if it never

> happened, and it would seem to you, no time has passed since

> your last memory. This would be to live like in a sort of hellish

> immutable eternity where time doesn't pass, except for the sense

> of confusion of why are you here, what were you doing, what

> were you thinking before you forgot it?

>

> There are a few people that live like this. It is food for thought.

> Mind is memory, change and time are memory, the universe as

> perceived is memory. Consciousness without memory doesn't

> mean a thing. So, where is home? Don't use a word to answer

> yourself. Let silence be. And if your ears ring, don't answer. ;)

>

 

Pete,

 

Thanks. Your post in a nice way is describing Nis's 'I Am'.

 

And - don't be afraid to state that consciousness or awareness itself IS

memory.

 

The very first appearance and arising of consciousness is 'in' or 'as' the

sensory memory. Just Google 'sensory memory'.

 

Werner

 

Yes....Sri Google Ji

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> wwoehr

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, March 02, 2010 7:13 AM

> Re: Time As Memmorable Change

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > I must confess I don't remember any longer how silence sounds.

> > Years ago, I started hearing a ringing that has never left, but I'm

> > not being accurate, my tinnitus is a monotone. Most of the time,

> > I'm oblivious to it. Consciousness needs change to stay focused.

> > It quickly ignores anything that doesn't change. So, this ringing is

> > my new silence. Novelty becomes normalcy if it persists.

> >

> > We perceive because there is change. The immutable goes through

> > consciousness without leaving a trace like a neutrino through a

> > photographic plate. Now, there can't be awareness of change

> > without memory. Without remembering how it was, you could

> > not notice change. So your notion of time, also, depends on

> > memory.

> >

> > Imagine losing your capacity to form new memories, but

> > remembering the long term memories that you formed before

> > the trauma, which caused your condition. In such case, you will

> > be stuck within that moment before the trauma. After a few

> > seconds, anything new that happens will become as if it never

> > happened, and it would seem to you, no time has passed since

> > your last memory. This would be to live like in a sort of hellish

> > immutable eternity where time doesn't pass, except for the sense

> > of confusion of why are you here, what were you doing, what

> > were you thinking before you forgot it?

> >

> > There are a few people that live like this. It is food for thought.

> > Mind is memory, change and time are memory, the universe as

> > perceived is memory. Consciousness without memory doesn't

> > mean a thing. So, where is home? Don't use a word to answer

> > yourself. Let silence be. And if your ears ring, don't answer. ;)

> >

>

> Pete,

>

> Thanks. Your post in a nice way is describing Nis's 'I Am'.

>

> And - don't be afraid to state that consciousness or awareness itself IS

> memory.

>

> The very first appearance and arising of consciousness is 'in' or 'as' the

> sensory memory. Just Google 'sensory memory'.

>

> Werner

>

> Yes....Sri Google Ji

> -geo-

>

 

 

In Sanskrit grammar, Sri belongs to the feminine gender but nowadays it is used

as a masculine name prefix, equivalent to 'Mister' in English. It is

gender-specific in Sanskrit, but the assumption that it is masculine has

resulted in the titles of Shrimati (abbreviated Smt) for married women and

Sushri for women (independent of marital status).

 

From Sri Wikipedia

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > I must confess I don't remember any longer how silence sounds.

> > Years ago, I started hearing a ringing that has never left, but I'm

> > not being accurate, my tinnitus is a monotone. Most of the time,

> > I'm oblivious to it. Consciousness needs change to stay focused.

> > It quickly ignores anything that doesn't change. So, this ringing is

> > my new silence. Novelty becomes normalcy if it persists.

> >

> > We perceive because there is change. The immutable goes through

> > consciousness without leaving a trace like a neutrino through a

> > photographic plate. Now, there can't be awareness of change

> > without memory. Without remembering how it was, you could

> > not notice change. So your notion of time, also, depends on

> > memory.

> >

> > Imagine losing your capacity to form new memories, but

> > remembering the long term memories that you formed before

> > the trauma, which caused your condition. In such case, you will

> > be stuck within that moment before the trauma. After a few

> > seconds, anything new that happens will become as if it never

> > happened, and it would seem to you, no time has passed since

> > your last memory. This would be to live like in a sort of hellish

> > immutable eternity where time doesn't pass, except for the sense

> > of confusion of why are you here, what were you doing, what

> > were you thinking before you forgot it?

> >

> > There are a few people that live like this. It is food for thought.

> > Mind is memory, change and time are memory, the universe as

> > perceived is memory. Consciousness without memory doesn't

> > mean a thing. So, where is home? Don't use a word to answer

> > yourself. Let silence be. And if your ears ring, don't answer. ;)

> >

>

>

>W: Pete,

>

> Thanks. Your post in a nice way is describing Nis's 'I Am'.

>

> And - don't be afraid to state that consciousness or awareness itself IS

memory.

 

P: I'm not afraid of saying it. I just don't say it,

because it's not so. They are two different faculties,

not one. Read my last paragraph it says consciousness

has no meaning without memory, but a new born baby

is conscious of being spanked and reacts to it, although it

has no memory of ever before being hit.

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