Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 - Hur Guler Nisargadatta Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:23 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- dan Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan, i'm sorry but you write like a chrisitan monk from the > > > > > > middle ages who's writing volumes on metaphysics. sometimes i > > > > > > have to read it twice. > > > > > > > > > > hi hur - i just write as it comes to me. glad you enjoy reading > > > > > it. likewise, i'm sure. > > > > > > > > > > > your writing rest on major assumptions: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. there's no separate knower: i thought evolution created > > > > > > billions of separate knowers who are called humans. > > > > > > > > > > i don't assume there is no separate knower. i just don't assume > > > > > that there is one - and the only separate knower i've ever found > > > > > is an assumption without anything there to back it up. > > > > > > > > > > you sound like this assumption seems real to you. > > > > > > > > > > that is where you and i differ. > > > > > > > > > > it also is where you and nisargadatta differ, apparently. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. awareness is not an object: this is the similar to how > > > > > > aristotelian christians based their belief that mind is like the > > > > > > soul and therefore you can't find the mind anywhere...not even > > > > > > in the brain. i believe awareness happens in human brain. trees > > > > > > are not aware since they have no brain...because they don't need > > > > > > to move. > > > > > > > > > > it's funny to me that you dedicate a list to nisargadatta and > > > > > believe these things that are in the opposite direction of how he > > > > > spoke. > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we are going to be technical we would have all been kicked out of > > > > his living room a long time ago. maharaj speaks for himself. this is > > > > a discussion list. we form our own arguments here and let those > > > > concepts go to war for intellectual sport. it wouldn't be fun > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > i'm just sitting here quietly. > > > > > > being aware is fun enough. > > > > > > just enjoying the passing show. > > > > > > always a good time, even without any war involved. > > > > > > thanks for being you. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > dan, i think you're getting the drips, drips of " awareness " too much. > > you need to dose down. whatever it is, it must be a really good quality > > " awareness " , clear, not sickeningly sweet and amazingly amazing. cheers. > > Hey Hur - > > All these thoughts about what is going on with " you " - > > It's the predominant disease of this list. > > Glad you joined in with the happy crowd feasting on " you thoughts. " > > Maybe that's why Ramana and Nisargadatta each, in their own way, put the > focus on looking into " I " ... > > Do you ever step back and have a laugh? > > - D - > don't we all? afterall we didn't join the hare krishna list. sometimes we'd like to poke fun of each other. -hur- Well...OK. But then.... why dont you all poke werner a bit? Why only geo? Why me? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Hur Guler > Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:23 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- dan > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan, i'm sorry but you write like a chrisitan monk from the > > > > > > > middle ages who's writing volumes on metaphysics. sometimes i > > > > > > > have to read it twice. > > > > > > > > > > > > hi hur - i just write as it comes to me. glad you enjoy reading > > > > > > it. likewise, i'm sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > your writing rest on major assumptions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. there's no separate knower: i thought evolution created > > > > > > > billions of separate knowers who are called humans. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't assume there is no separate knower. i just don't assume > > > > > > that there is one - and the only separate knower i've ever found > > > > > > is an assumption without anything there to back it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > you sound like this assumption seems real to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > that is where you and i differ. > > > > > > > > > > > > it also is where you and nisargadatta differ, apparently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. awareness is not an object: this is the similar to how > > > > > > > aristotelian christians based their belief that mind is like the > > > > > > > soul and therefore you can't find the mind anywhere...not even > > > > > > > in the brain. i believe awareness happens in human brain. trees > > > > > > > are not aware since they have no brain...because they don't need > > > > > > > to move. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's funny to me that you dedicate a list to nisargadatta and > > > > > > believe these things that are in the opposite direction of how he > > > > > > spoke. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we are going to be technical we would have all been kicked out of > > > > > his living room a long time ago. maharaj speaks for himself. this is > > > > > a discussion list. we form our own arguments here and let those > > > > > concepts go to war for intellectual sport. it wouldn't be fun > > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > i'm just sitting here quietly. > > > > > > > > being aware is fun enough. > > > > > > > > just enjoying the passing show. > > > > > > > > always a good time, even without any war involved. > > > > > > > > thanks for being you. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > dan, i think you're getting the drips, drips of " awareness " too much. > > > you need to dose down. whatever it is, it must be a really good quality > > > " awareness " , clear, not sickeningly sweet and amazingly amazing. cheers. > > > > Hey Hur - > > > > All these thoughts about what is going on with " you " - > > > > It's the predominant disease of this list. > > > > Glad you joined in with the happy crowd feasting on " you thoughts. " > > > > Maybe that's why Ramana and Nisargadatta each, in their own way, put the > > focus on looking into " I " ... > > > > Do you ever step back and have a laugh? > > > > - D - > > > > don't we all? afterall we didn't join the hare krishna list. sometimes we'd > like to poke fun of each other. > -hur- > > Well...OK. But then.... why dont you all poke werner a bit? Why only geo? > Why me? > -geo- > that line was meant for dan but it can apply to anyone here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 - Hur Guler Nisargadatta Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:36 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- dan Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Hur Guler > Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:23 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- dan > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan, i'm sorry but you write like a chrisitan monk from the > > > > > > > middle ages who's writing volumes on metaphysics. sometimes i > > > > > > > have to read it twice. > > > > > > > > > > > > hi hur - i just write as it comes to me. glad you enjoy reading > > > > > > it. likewise, i'm sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > your writing rest on major assumptions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. there's no separate knower: i thought evolution created > > > > > > > billions of separate knowers who are called humans. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't assume there is no separate knower. i just don't assume > > > > > > that there is one - and the only separate knower i've ever found > > > > > > is an assumption without anything there to back it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > you sound like this assumption seems real to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > that is where you and i differ. > > > > > > > > > > > > it also is where you and nisargadatta differ, apparently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. awareness is not an object: this is the similar to how > > > > > > > aristotelian christians based their belief that mind is like > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > soul and therefore you can't find the mind anywhere...not even > > > > > > > in the brain. i believe awareness happens in human brain. > > > > > > > trees > > > > > > > are not aware since they have no brain...because they don't > > > > > > > need > > > > > > > to move. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's funny to me that you dedicate a list to nisargadatta and > > > > > > believe these things that are in the opposite direction of how > > > > > > he > > > > > > spoke. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we are going to be technical we would have all been kicked out > > > > > of > > > > > his living room a long time ago. maharaj speaks for himself. this > > > > > is > > > > > a discussion list. we form our own arguments here and let those > > > > > concepts go to war for intellectual sport. it wouldn't be fun > > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > i'm just sitting here quietly. > > > > > > > > being aware is fun enough. > > > > > > > > just enjoying the passing show. > > > > > > > > always a good time, even without any war involved. > > > > > > > > thanks for being you. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > dan, i think you're getting the drips, drips of " awareness " too much. > > > you need to dose down. whatever it is, it must be a really good > > > quality > > > " awareness " , clear, not sickeningly sweet and amazingly amazing. > > > cheers. > > > > Hey Hur - > > > > All these thoughts about what is going on with " you " - > > > > It's the predominant disease of this list. > > > > Glad you joined in with the happy crowd feasting on " you thoughts. " > > > > Maybe that's why Ramana and Nisargadatta each, in their own way, put the > > focus on looking into " I " ... > > > > Do you ever step back and have a laugh? > > > > - D - > > > > don't we all? afterall we didn't join the hare krishna list. sometimes > we'd > like to poke fun of each other. > -hur- > > Well...OK. But then.... why dont you all poke werner a bit? Why only geo? > Why me? > -geo- > that line was meant for dan but it can apply to anyone here. -hur- LOL LOL LOL -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Hur Guler > Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:23 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- dan > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan, i'm sorry but you write like a chrisitan monk from the > > > > > > > middle ages who's writing volumes on metaphysics. sometimes i > > > > > > > have to read it twice. > > > > > > > > > > > > hi hur - i just write as it comes to me. glad you enjoy reading > > > > > > it. likewise, i'm sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > your writing rest on major assumptions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. there's no separate knower: i thought evolution created > > > > > > > billions of separate knowers who are called humans. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't assume there is no separate knower. i just don't assume > > > > > > that there is one - and the only separate knower i've ever found > > > > > > is an assumption without anything there to back it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > you sound like this assumption seems real to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > that is where you and i differ. > > > > > > > > > > > > it also is where you and nisargadatta differ, apparently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. awareness is not an object: this is the similar to how > > > > > > > aristotelian christians based their belief that mind is like the > > > > > > > soul and therefore you can't find the mind anywhere...not even > > > > > > > in the brain. i believe awareness happens in human brain. trees > > > > > > > are not aware since they have no brain...because they don't need > > > > > > > to move. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's funny to me that you dedicate a list to nisargadatta and > > > > > > believe these things that are in the opposite direction of how he > > > > > > spoke. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we are going to be technical we would have all been kicked out of > > > > > his living room a long time ago. maharaj speaks for himself. this is > > > > > a discussion list. we form our own arguments here and let those > > > > > concepts go to war for intellectual sport. it wouldn't be fun > > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > i'm just sitting here quietly. > > > > > > > > being aware is fun enough. > > > > > > > > just enjoying the passing show. > > > > > > > > always a good time, even without any war involved. > > > > > > > > thanks for being you. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > dan, i think you're getting the drips, drips of " awareness " too much. > > > you need to dose down. whatever it is, it must be a really good quality > > > " awareness " , clear, not sickeningly sweet and amazingly amazing. cheers. > > > > Hey Hur - > > > > All these thoughts about what is going on with " you " - > > > > It's the predominant disease of this list. > > > > Glad you joined in with the happy crowd feasting on " you thoughts. " > > > > Maybe that's why Ramana and Nisargadatta each, in their own way, put the > > focus on looking into " I " ... > > > > Do you ever step back and have a laugh? > > > > - D - > > > > don't we all? afterall we didn't join the hare krishna list. sometimes we'd > like to poke fun of each other. > -hur- > > Well...OK. But then.... why dont you all poke werner a bit? Why only geo? > Why me? > -geo- wernie whines. that's why. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Hur Guler > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:23 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- dan > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan, i'm sorry but you write like a chrisitan monk from the > > > > > > > > middle ages who's writing volumes on metaphysics. sometimes i > > > > > > > > have to read it twice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi hur - i just write as it comes to me. glad you enjoy reading > > > > > > > it. likewise, i'm sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your writing rest on major assumptions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. there's no separate knower: i thought evolution created > > > > > > > > billions of separate knowers who are called humans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't assume there is no separate knower. i just don't assume > > > > > > > that there is one - and the only separate knower i've ever found > > > > > > > is an assumption without anything there to back it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you sound like this assumption seems real to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that is where you and i differ. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it also is where you and nisargadatta differ, apparently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. awareness is not an object: this is the similar to how > > > > > > > > aristotelian christians based their belief that mind is like the > > > > > > > > soul and therefore you can't find the mind anywhere...not even > > > > > > > > in the brain. i believe awareness happens in human brain. trees > > > > > > > > are not aware since they have no brain...because they don't need > > > > > > > > to move. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's funny to me that you dedicate a list to nisargadatta and > > > > > > > believe these things that are in the opposite direction of how he > > > > > > > spoke. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we are going to be technical we would have all been kicked out of > > > > > > his living room a long time ago. maharaj speaks for himself. this is > > > > > > a discussion list. we form our own arguments here and let those > > > > > > concepts go to war for intellectual sport. it wouldn't be fun > > > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > i'm just sitting here quietly. > > > > > > > > > > being aware is fun enough. > > > > > > > > > > just enjoying the passing show. > > > > > > > > > > always a good time, even without any war involved. > > > > > > > > > > thanks for being you. > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan, i think you're getting the drips, drips of " awareness " too much. > > > > you need to dose down. whatever it is, it must be a really good quality > > > > " awareness " , clear, not sickeningly sweet and amazingly amazing. cheers. > > > > > > Hey Hur - > > > > > > All these thoughts about what is going on with " you " - > > > > > > It's the predominant disease of this list. > > > > > > Glad you joined in with the happy crowd feasting on " you thoughts. " > > > > > > Maybe that's why Ramana and Nisargadatta each, in their own way, put the > > > focus on looking into " I " ... > > > > > > Do you ever step back and have a laugh? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > don't we all? afterall we didn't join the hare krishna list. sometimes we'd > > like to poke fun of each other. > > -hur- > > > > Well...OK. But then.... why dont you all poke werner a bit? Why only geo? > > Why me? > > -geo- > > > > that line was meant for dan but it can apply to anyone here. Hurray! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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