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GuruRatings , " Venu " <akvenugopal wrote:

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> GuruRatings , Tater Gumfries <tater@> wrote:

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> > > As for Osho, one period his own disciples tried

> > > to market him as a sex Guru.

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> > Tater'd like to be one of them sex gurus. They got any openins?

>

> > Tater Gumfries

> #vg#

> You can try Nithyananda. He had not only a penny

> but two pound sterlings. Penny without that two

> pound sterlings is a completely useless instrument -

> like a screw driver without a handle !! (Grin)

> Regards

> PS. If you are aspiring for Liberation, Celibacy,

> in thought, word and deed will be a great help.

> Give it a try for a few days and give a feed back,

> please.

>

 

 

Aspiring for beautiful women is like aspiring for beautiful, fragrant, fresh

flowers!

 

Aspiring for Liberation is like aspiring to 'not exist'? When you don't have

mind (aspiration, likes, dislikes, wants, hopes, wishes) you are half liberated.

When you don't mind and you don't have body (hunger, thirst, sex, disease, pain,

ache) - you are fully liberated - but, do " you " still exist? Some might say

" you " do - but, what is " you " without a 'mind'??? What is " you " without

'separation'? What is 'you' without the 'walls'? Do 'you' still exist when you

are not separate from ALL (the other)?

 

Does the SPACE inside the box still exits after its wall have banished?

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Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

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> GuruRatings , " Venu " <akvenugopal@> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > GuruRatings , Tater Gumfries <tater@> wrote:

> > <snip>

> > > > As for Osho, one period his own disciples tried

> > > > to market him as a sex Guru.

> >

> > > Tater'd like to be one of them sex gurus. They got any openins?

> >

> > > Tater Gumfries

> > #vg#

> > You can try Nithyananda. He had not only a penny

> > but two pound sterlings. Penny without that two

> > pound sterlings is a completely useless instrument -

> > like a screw driver without a handle !! (Grin)

> > Regards

> > PS. If you are aspiring for Liberation, Celibacy,

> > in thought, word and deed will be a great help.

> > Give it a try for a few days and give a feed back,

> > please.

> >

>

>

> Aspiring for beautiful women is like aspiring for beautiful, fragrant, fresh

flowers!

 

 

What about ugly and bitchy women, are they like cactuses, not very aspiring ?

 

 

>

> Aspiring for Liberation is like aspiring to 'not exist'? When you don't have

mind (aspiration, likes, dislikes, wants, hopes, wishes) you are half liberated.

When you don't mind and you don't have body (hunger, thirst, sex, disease, pain,

ache) - you are fully liberated - but, do " you " still exist? Some might say

" you " do - but, what is " you " without a 'mind'??? What is " you " without

'separation'? What is 'you' without the 'walls'? Do 'you' still exist when you

are not separate from ALL (the other)?

>

> Does the SPACE inside the box still exits after its wall have banished?

 

 

Ac, I am wondering, are you still interested in liberation ? How odd and

frustrating if you still are.

 

Werner

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > GuruRatings , " Venu " <akvenugopal@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > GuruRatings , Tater Gumfries <tater@> wrote:

> > > <snip>

> > > > > As for Osho, one period his own disciples tried

> > > > > to market him as a sex Guru.

> > >

> > > > Tater'd like to be one of them sex gurus. They got any openins?

> > >

> > > > Tater Gumfries

> > > #vg#

> > > You can try Nithyananda. He had not only a penny

> > > but two pound sterlings. Penny without that two

> > > pound sterlings is a completely useless instrument -

> > > like a screw driver without a handle !! (Grin)

> > > Regards

> > > PS. If you are aspiring for Liberation, Celibacy,

> > > in thought, word and deed will be a great help.

> > > Give it a try for a few days and give a feed back,

> > > please.

> > >

> >

> >

> > Aspiring for beautiful women is like aspiring for beautiful, fragrant, fresh

flowers!

>

>

> What about ugly and bitchy women, are they like cactuses, not very aspiring ?

 

 

Beauty (largely) lies in the eyes of beholder...

 

Many people like cactus

 

 

However if one finds them ugly and bitchy, he is unlikely aspire for them.

 

 

 

>

>

> >

> > Aspiring for Liberation is like aspiring to 'not exist'? When you don't have

mind (aspiration, likes, dislikes, wants, hopes, wishes) you are half liberated.

When you don't mind and you don't have body (hunger, thirst, sex, disease, pain,

ache) - you are fully liberated - but, do " you " still exist? Some might say

" you " do - but, what is " you " without a 'mind'??? What is " you " without

'separation'? What is 'you' without the 'walls'? Do 'you' still exist when you

are not separate from ALL (the other)?

> >

> > Does the SPACE inside the box still exits after its wall have banished?

>

>

> Ac, I am wondering, are you still interested in liberation ? How odd and

frustrating if you still are.

 

I don't think I was ever looking for it. Interested yes, curious yes, wanting to

" know " , " understand " , yes.

 

>

> Werner

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Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > GuruRatings , " Venu " <akvenugopal@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > GuruRatings , Tater Gumfries <tater@> wrote:

> > > > <snip>

> > > > > > As for Osho, one period his own disciples tried

> > > > > > to market him as a sex Guru.

> > > >

> > > > > Tater'd like to be one of them sex gurus. They got any openins?

> > > >

> > > > > Tater Gumfries

> > > > #vg#

> > > > You can try Nithyananda. He had not only a penny

> > > > but two pound sterlings. Penny without that two

> > > > pound sterlings is a completely useless instrument -

> > > > like a screw driver without a handle !! (Grin)

> > > > Regards

> > > > PS. If you are aspiring for Liberation, Celibacy,

> > > > in thought, word and deed will be a great help.

> > > > Give it a try for a few days and give a feed back,

> > > > please.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Aspiring for beautiful women is like aspiring for beautiful, fragrant,

fresh flowers!

> >

> >

> > What about ugly and bitchy women, are they like cactuses, not very aspiring

?

>

>

> Beauty (largely) lies in the eyes of beholder...

>

> Many people like cactus

>

>

> However if one finds them ugly and bitchy, he is unlikely aspire for them.

 

 

Haha, ac,

 

My main topic here was why aspiring beautiful women and not ugly and bitchy

women. My topic was not cactus.

 

 

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Aspiring for Liberation is like aspiring to 'not exist'? When you don't

have mind (aspiration, likes, dislikes, wants, hopes, wishes) you are half

liberated. When you don't mind and you don't have body (hunger, thirst, sex,

disease, pain, ache) - you are fully liberated - but, do " you " still exist? Some

might say " you " do - but, what is " you " without a 'mind'??? What is " you "

without 'separation'? What is 'you' without the 'walls'? Do 'you' still exist

when you are not separate from ALL (the other)?

> > >

> > > Does the SPACE inside the box still exits after its wall have banished?

> >

> >

> > Ac, I am wondering, are you still interested in liberation ? How odd and

frustrating if you still are.

>

> I don't think I was ever looking for it. Interested yes, curious yes, wanting

to " know " , " understand " , yes.

 

 

ok, Ac, forgive me my curiosity but I myself am not the least interested in

liberation and I am wondering why you still are.

 

I am much more interested and eager to understand what is. Why do I tick as I am

ticking, what is the base of violence in general, why are young kids so innocent

and trusting and why do they lose it so fast ? Many many question about the

human condition.

 

But 'liberation' ? God beware, no ... :)

 

Werner

 

 

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> > Werner

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > GuruRatings , " Venu " <akvenugopal@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > GuruRatings , Tater Gumfries <tater@> wrote:

> > > > > <snip>

> > > > > > > As for Osho, one period his own disciples tried

> > > > > > > to market him as a sex Guru.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Tater'd like to be one of them sex gurus. They got any openins?

> > > > >

> > > > > > Tater Gumfries

> > > > > #vg#

> > > > > You can try Nithyananda. He had not only a penny

> > > > > but two pound sterlings. Penny without that two

> > > > > pound sterlings is a completely useless instrument -

> > > > > like a screw driver without a handle !! (Grin)

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > PS. If you are aspiring for Liberation, Celibacy,

> > > > > in thought, word and deed will be a great help.

> > > > > Give it a try for a few days and give a feed back,

> > > > > please.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Aspiring for beautiful women is like aspiring for beautiful, fragrant,

fresh flowers!

> > >

> > >

> > > What about ugly and bitchy women, are they like cactuses, not very

aspiring ?

> >

> >

> > Beauty (largely) lies in the eyes of beholder...

> >

> > Many people like cactus

> >

> >

> > However if one finds them ugly and bitchy, he is unlikely aspire for them.

>

>

> Haha, ac,

>

> My main topic here was why aspiring beautiful women and not ugly and bitchy

women.

 

I think I answered it.

 

Beauty (largely) lies in the eyes of beholder...

 

However if one finds certain women ugly and bitchy, he is unlikely aspire for

them.

 

 

 

 

> My topic was not cactus.

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Aspiring for Liberation is like aspiring to 'not exist'? When you don't

have mind (aspiration, likes, dislikes, wants, hopes, wishes) you are half

liberated. When you don't mind and you don't have body (hunger, thirst, sex,

disease, pain, ache) - you are fully liberated - but, do " you " still exist? Some

might say " you " do - but, what is " you " without a 'mind'??? What is " you "

without 'separation'? What is 'you' without the 'walls'? Do 'you' still exist

when you are not separate from ALL (the other)?

> > > >

> > > > Does the SPACE inside the box still exits after its wall have banished?

> > >

> > >

> > > Ac, I am wondering, are you still interested in liberation ? How odd and

frustrating if you still are.

> >

> > I don't think I was ever looking for it. Interested yes, curious yes,

wanting to " know " , " understand " , yes.

>

>

> ok, Ac, forgive me my curiosity but I myself am not the least interested in

liberation and I am wondering why you still are.

>

 

Just as I am interested in learning about black hole, vacuum energy, neutrino,

nirvana, moksha. I am interested in understanding what is meant by the

" concepts " or " realities " of liberation.

 

 

I hope you don't expect me to be interested in only what you are interested in

:-)

 

 

 

 

 

> I am much more interested and eager to understand what is.

 

That interests me too.

 

>> Why do I tick as I am ticking,

 

That interests me too.

 

>> what is the base of violence in general,

 

That interests me too.

 

 

>> why are young kids so innocent and trusting

 

About that I am not so sure anymore. I have seen that many kids are quite

violent, aggressive and selfish from very early age - like 3, 4 years of age.

 

 

>> and why do they lose it so fast ?

 

I guess it is learning the life skill. If one is selfish, aggressive, violent

and innocent and tactless, 'survival' might become quite challenging. And,

'survival' is pretty much the #1 priority for every un-enlightened entity.

 

 

 

>>Many many question about the human condition.

 

Sure. Me too...

 

>

> But 'liberation' ? God beware, no ... :)

 

Sure. I guess it is OK to be interested in knowing different things :-)

 

ac

 

 

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> Werner

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