Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar to > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the brain. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used. > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely > > until realizing this. > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > professional hands. > > Werner Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. That doesn't make me a " social being " . One is always alone. Aloneness is the Fact of existence. == I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us feel like a separate being. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar to > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the brain. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used. > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > professional hands. > > > > Werner > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > One is always alone. > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > == > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us > feel > like a separate being. > -geo- so not being a social being makes you special? you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? oh this is rich! what " us " is not a group of separate beings? i mean the " us " that you are better than. love.. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 - BobN Nisargadatta Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used. > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > professional hands. > > > > Werner > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > One is always alone. > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > == > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us > feel > like a separate being. > -geo- so not being a social being makes you special? you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? oh this is rich! what " us " is not a group of separate beings? i mean the " us " that you are better than. love.. ..b b.b. Hi barbie! Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. You with your earings and all.... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe. > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to > have. > -d- > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > -geo- It's just colloquial speech, Geo. -d- Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate. So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ? Well... some people talk about my god...dont they? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe. > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to > > have. > > -d- > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > -geo- > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > -d- > > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate. > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ? > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they? > -geo- > Nothing of what Dan says, or what Tim says, or what Geo says, is going to change the actual " location " (or lack thereof) of " the absolute " . And so, is one going to say to one's mother, " stop calling me 'you', we're not separate from one another! " Who cares about the talk? Or... is there very much a caring about the talk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Tim G. > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > professional hands. > > > > > > Werner > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > One is always alone. > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > == > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us > > feel > > like a separate being. > > -geo- > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > oh this is rich! > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > love.. > > .b b.b. > > Hi barbie! > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > You with your earings and all.... > -geo- so you don't have an answer. figures. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe. > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to > > have. > > -d- > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > -geo- > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > -d- > > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate. > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ? > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they? > -geo- especially when they talk about other people talking about God. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Tim G. > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > == > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us > > > feel > > > like a separate being. > > > -geo- > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > love.. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Hi barbie! > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > You with your earings and all.... > > -geo- > > > so you don't have an answer. > > figures. > > .b b.b. > What-- is he supposed to know something? LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Tim G. > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are > > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the > > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about > > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example > > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely > > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > > == > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us > > > > feel > > > > like a separate being. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > > > love.. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Hi barbie! > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > > You with your earings and all.... > > > -geo- > > > > > > so you don't have an answer. > > > > figures. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > What-- is he supposed to know something? > > LOL! did you figure that out all by yourself timmy? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 - BobN Nisargadatta Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Tim G. > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate > > > > > > > > awareness > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes > > > > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), > > > > > > if > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible > > > > > > about > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > professional hands. > > > > > > Werner > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > One is always alone. > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > == > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes > > us > > feel > > like a separate being. > > -geo- > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > oh this is rich! > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > love.. > > .b b.b. > > Hi barbie! > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > You with your earings and all.... > -geo- so you don't have an answer. figures. ..b b.b. Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Tim G. > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate > > > > > > > > > awareness > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes > > > > > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are > > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > == > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes > > > us > > > feel > > > like a separate being. > > > -geo- > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > love.. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Hi barbie! > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > You with your earings and all.... > > -geo- > > so you don't have an answer. > > figures. > > .b b.b. > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > -geo- you have a problem staying on point don't you? figures. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > -geo- > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > figures. > > .b b.b. > It does indeed, given the pointlessness of the discussion ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > > -geo- > > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > > > figures. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > It does indeed, given the pointlessness of the discussion ;-). oh i see.. you the believe then that here's been a point.. with what you've been saying? something perhaps deep...mystical..transcendent.. sure thing dude. Gnarly! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 - BobN Nisargadatta Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Tim G. > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate > > > > > > > > > awareness > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes > > > > > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are > > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for > > > > > > example > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and > > > > > freely > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > == > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what > > > makes > > > us > > > feel > > > like a separate being. > > > -geo- > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > love.. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Hi barbie! > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > You with your earings and all.... > > -geo- > > so you don't have an answer. > > figures. > > .b b.b. > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > -geo- you have a problem staying on point don't you? figures. ..b b.b. I think so, yes. Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Tim G. > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you > > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in > > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate > > > > > > > > > > awareness > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes > > > > > > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the > > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are > > > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and > > > > > > freely > > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > > == > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what > > > > makes > > > > us > > > > feel > > > > like a separate being. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > > > love.. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Hi barbie! > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > > You with your earings and all.... > > > -geo- > > > > so you don't have an answer. > > > > figures. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > -geo- > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > figures. > > .b b.b. > > I think so, yes. > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh? > -geo- you have trouble making sense don't you? figures. you need to distract with personal off point nonsense? typical of losers worldwide. what a hero! hahahaha. ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 - BobN Nisargadatta Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Tim G. > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the > > > > > > > > > > believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in > > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate > > > > > > > > > > awareness > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes > > > > > > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are > > > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or > > > > > > > > not), > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and > > > > > > freely > > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > > == > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what > > > > makes > > > > us > > > > feel > > > > like a separate being. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > > > love.. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Hi barbie! > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > > You with your earings and all.... > > > -geo- > > > > so you don't have an answer. > > > > figures. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > -geo- > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > figures. > > .b b.b. > > I think so, yes. > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh? > -geo- you have trouble making sense don't you? figures. you need to distract with personal off point nonsense? typical of losers worldwide. what a hero! hahahaha. ..b b.b. You mean your social stuff up there? Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night... Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > BobN > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the > > > > > > > > > > > believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in > > > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate > > > > > > > > > > > awareness > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes > > > > > > > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are > > > > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or > > > > > > > > > not), > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and > > > > > > > freely > > > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > > > == > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what > > > > > makes > > > > > us > > > > > feel > > > > > like a separate being. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > > > > > love.. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Hi barbie! > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > > > You with your earings and all.... > > > > -geo- > > > > > > so you don't have an answer. > > > > > > figures. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > > -geo- > > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > > > figures. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I think so, yes. > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh? > > -geo- > > you have trouble making sense don't you? > > figures. > > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense? > > typical of losers worldwide. > > what a hero! > > hahahaha. > > .b b.b. > > You mean your social stuff up there? > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night... > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad... > -geo- nothing philosophical about it. you're just a loser. simple. ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 - BobN Nisargadatta Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > BobN > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the > > > > > > > > > > > believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in > > > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate > > > > > > > > > > > awareness > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes > > > > > > > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or > > > > > > > > > not), > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion > > > > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and > > > > > > > freely > > > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > > > == > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what > > > > > makes > > > > > us > > > > > feel > > > > > like a separate being. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > > > > > love.. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Hi barbie! > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > > > You with your earings and all.... > > > > -geo- > > > > > > so you don't have an answer. > > > > > > figures. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > > -geo- > > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > > > figures. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I think so, yes. > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh? > > -geo- > > you have trouble making sense don't you? > > figures. > > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense? > > typical of losers worldwide. > > what a hero! > > hahahaha. > > .b b.b. > > You mean your social stuff up there? > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night... > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad... > -geo- nothing philosophical about it. you're just a loser. simple. ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > BobN > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > BobN > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the > > > > > > > > > > > > believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in > > > > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness > > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice > > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes > > > > > > > > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or > > > > > > > > > > not), > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion > > > > > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and > > > > > > > > freely > > > > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into > > > > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > > > > == > > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what > > > > > > makes > > > > > > us > > > > > > feel > > > > > > like a separate being. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > > > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > > > > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > > > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > > > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > > > > > > > love.. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Hi barbie! > > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > > > > You with your earings and all.... > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > so you don't have an answer. > > > > > > > > figures. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > > > > > figures. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > I think so, yes. > > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh? > > > -geo- > > > > you have trouble making sense don't you? > > > > figures. > > > > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense? > > > > typical of losers worldwide. > > > > what a hero! > > > > hahahaha. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > You mean your social stuff up there? > > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night... > > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad... > > -geo- > > nothing philosophical about it. > > you're just a loser. > > simple. > > .b b.b. > > Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet.... > -geo- feel free to come out of the closet anytime geoparado. i mean you are what you are and that's ok. :-) ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe. > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to > > have. > > -d- > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > -geo- > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > -d- > > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate. > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ? > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they? > -geo- the absolute you can talk about, is yours. what can't be talked about is silence. undisturbed. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 - BobN Nisargadatta Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > BobN > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > BobN > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM > > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the > > > > > > > > > > > > believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have. > > > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in > > > > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness > > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice > > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes > > > > > > > > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " > > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or > > > > > > > > > > not), > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion > > > > > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > here on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > freely > > > > > > > > until realizing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > professional hands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " . > > > > > > > > > > > > One is always alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence. > > > > > > == > > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is > > > > > > what > > > > > > makes > > > > > > us > > > > > > feel > > > > > > like a separate being. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special? > > > > > > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings? > > > > > > > > > > oh this is rich! > > > > > > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings? > > > > > > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than. > > > > > > > > > > love.. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Hi barbie! > > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > > > > You with your earings and all.... > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > so you don't have an answer. > > > > > > > > figures. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > > > > > figures. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > I think so, yes. > > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh? > > > -geo- > > > > you have trouble making sense don't you? > > > > figures. > > > > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense? > > > > typical of losers worldwide. > > > > what a hero! > > > > hahahaha. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > You mean your social stuff up there? > > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night... > > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad... > > -geo- > > nothing philosophical about it. > > you're just a loser. > > simple. > > .b b.b. > > Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet.... > -geo- feel free to come out of the closet anytime geoparado. i mean you are what you are and that's ok. :-) ..b b.b. :>)) UUffffaaa.....It was really hot in there... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 > > > > > > Hi barbie! > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > > You with your earings and all.... > > > -geo- > > > > so you don't have an answer. > > > > figures. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > -geo- > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > figures. > > .b b.b. P: Geo, you're such a wonderful guy! A little gullible, though! But since you liked the story of my meeting Bob in California, let me tell you about when I met God in Chicago. Well, you know, when you meet God, you never meet him completely, or in a particular place. Let's faced it, the guy is " not all there " as in " not playing with a full deck of cards. " Let me tell you buddy, it's quite shocking, mind rocking indeed to meet the guy " in charge, " and find out his mind has gone quantum theory. I was lucky that it wasn't me who met him, but a guy who loves to impersonate me. Well, is a long story, so if you have the time, and like scary " tails, " please don't think of a plate of " rat tales " in spaghetti sauce, here is a link to my meeting with God: enlightenedfiction/message/92 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:39 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe. > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to > > have. > > -d- > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > -geo- > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > -d- > > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate. > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ? > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they? > -geo- the absolute you can talk about, is yours. what can't be talked about is silence. undisturbed. - d - But you are talking about! See how it works? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:04 PM Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Hi barbie! > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA. > > > You with your earings and all.... > > > -geo- > > > > so you don't have an answer. > > > > figures. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence.. > > -geo- > > you have a problem staying on point don't you? > > figures. > > .b b.b. P: Geo, you're such a wonderful guy! A little gullible, though! But since you liked the story of my meeting Bob in California... geo: I thought it was true. Who am I to guess when you are lying? No wonder bbb thought I was off subject. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:39 PM > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe. > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to > > > have. > > > -d- > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > -geo- > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > -d- > > > > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate. > > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ? > > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they? > > -geo- > > the absolute you can talk about, is yours. > > what can't be talked about is silence. > > undisturbed. > > - d - > > But you are talking about! See how it works? > -geo- No, I'm not. That's where you miss. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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