Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe. > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to have. > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are aware of them. > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar to > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the brain. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used. > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about how this could change. > > > > > Nonsense, > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example here on this list. > > Its really a shame to see how nondualist babblers have lost any commonsense and are caught in a complicated stale web of words themselves. > > Werner > my " i-thought " is having difficulty arising independently of the awaneress at the absence of a knower without a center and since the consciousness is not an object there are no concepts to be exchanged among non-existing entities in this illusory...i need a drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe. > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to have. > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are aware of them. > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar to > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the brain. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used. > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about how this could change. > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example here on this list. > > > > Its really a shame to see how nondualist babblers have lost any commonsense and are caught in a complicated stale web of words themselves. > > > > Werner > > > > my " i-thought " is having difficulty arising independently of the awaneress at the absence of a knower without a center and since the consciousness is not an object there are no concepts to be exchanged among non-existing entities in this illusory...i need a drink. > Having read your reply, I too need a drink, skol! Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer. > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to have. > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police? > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...) > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that supposedly produce awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are aware of them. > > > > > > -d- > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar to > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the brain. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words? > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used. > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them? > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > (nnb) > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go " (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list. > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if one's reality is being defined by words. > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about how this could change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example here on this list. > > > > > > Its really a shame to see how nondualist babblers have lost any commonsense and are caught in a complicated stale web of words themselves. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > my " i-thought " is having difficulty arising independently of the awaneress at the absence of a knower without a center and since the consciousness is not an object there are no concepts to be exchanged among non-existing entities in this illusory...i need a drink. > > > > > Having read your reply, I too need a drink, skol! > > Werner your nose is getting bigger and browner by the minute wernie. lox and bagels! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 > > > > Its really a shame to see how nondualist babblers have lost any commonsense and are caught in a complicated stale web of words themselves. > > > > Werner > > > >Hur: my " i-thought " is having difficulty arising independently of the awaneress at the absence of a knower without a center and since the consciousness is not an object there are no concepts to be exchanged among non-existing entities in this illusory...i need a drink. P: Hahaha! Best satire ever of Dannyo speak! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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