Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa E-mail ID : saibanisa Chapter 5 of Sri Sai satcharita Hemadri Pant describes the episode of installing Padukas at the base of the Neem tree. -They decided to install Baba's Padukas at the base of the Neem tree as a memorial to the fact that Baba meditated under that tree when He first came to Shirdi. They decided to get Baba's Padukas sculpted from stone -. There is parallel to this episode in my life. On a saturday in July 1989, the day of commencement of the first journey to Shirdi in my life, Sri Sai blessed me under a Neem tree in DAE Colony in Hyderabad on the day I commenced my first ever journey to Shirdi and I resolved to install Padukas of Sri Sai under that tree. The way this wish of mine was fulfilled by Sri Sai is even more astonishing. I asked friends for assistance for getting Padukas of Sri Sai sculpted from marble and for installing them under that tree. Not only did I get any help but also many hurdles came in the way. Not knowing how to proceed further in the matter, I stood thinking under that Neem tree on a certain Saturday. Sri Sai prompted the priest in the Hanuman Temple to suggest a way out to me.The priest came out of the Temple, approached me under the Neem tree and made two requests to me. Firstly he wanted me to purchase for him a pair of footwear as his feet are becoming sore by walking bare feet on hot earth. Secondly he wanted me to purchase kerosene stove for him as he was facing immense difficulties in cooking. I was elated on hearing these two requests realizing that Sri Sai ordered me to provide new Padukas(Foot wear) to the temple and arrange for the holy Dhuni (Fire). I purchased both the items next thursday and when I helped the priest to put on the new foot wear I got the satisfactory feeling as if I have installed Padukas of Sri Sai and when I presented the kerosene stove to the priest, I got the feeling of arranging a Dhuni in a newly built Sai Temple. Discourses in TELUGU by Sai Banisa GopalaraoRavada http://saibanisa.blogspot.com/2008/08/discourses-in-telugu.html The Glory Of Shirdi Sai in the PDF format. by clicking on the below link http://saidarbarusa.org/archieves/g201006.pdf The Glory Of Shirdi Sai is now available in the 3d Page turning format. http://www.ettitudemedia.com/loadbook.php?BookName=EMagazineCurrent Saidarbar-Hyderabad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam wrote: > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. Maybe you can help me. From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, and even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do they get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? Imagination? Wishful thinking? For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and rest and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 - richarkar Nisargadatta Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam wrote: How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. Maybe you can help me. From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, and even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do they get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? Imagination? Wishful thinking? For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and rest and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . Richard What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or not what state of art another one is exhibiting?? There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to identify another's experience, another's state? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > richarkar > Nisargadatta > Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa > > Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. Maybe > you can help me. > > From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, and > even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do they > get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? Imagination? > Wishful thinking? > > For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and rest > and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . > > Richard > > What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or not > what state of art another one is exhibiting?? > There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to > identify another's experience, another's state? > -geo- > Right you are. There is a cult of sorts centered around Shirdi Sai Baba, folks praying to him,etc. He is said to have worked miracles. I was curious as to whether this is fact or fiction. The knowing of this, as you imply, is of no significance. " There is only here...Will one realize this...? " , asks you. My question is: Isn't one already always realized? What's the difference if there is lila or not, the one is the one is the one. R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 - richarkar Nisargadatta Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:12 PM Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > richarkar > Nisargadatta > Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa > > Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. Maybe > you can help me. > > From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, and > even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do they > get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? Imagination? > Wishful thinking? > > For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and > rest > and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . > > Richard > > What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or > not > what state of art another one is exhibiting?? > There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to > identify another's experience, another's state? > -geo- > Right you are. There is a cult of sorts centered around Shirdi Sai Baba, folks praying to him,etc. He is said to have worked miracles. I was curious as to whether this is fact or fiction. The knowing of this, as you imply, is of no significance. " There is only here...Will one realize this...? " , asks you. My question is: Isn't one already always realized? What's the difference if there is lila or not, the one is the one is the one. R. I agree. In most cases the cult thing happens at a very superficial level. Many start off in an almost desperate search in the projected as-if outside world. The good result if this is a sense of frustration... and perhaps a sharp turn to something completely different. The bad one .... is when they find it. PS - I asked your age because you mention " school class-room " so I was wondering..... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > richarkar > Nisargadatta > Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:12 PM > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > richarkar > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa > > > > Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. Maybe > > you can help me. > > > > From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, and > > even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do they > > get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? Imagination? > > Wishful thinking? > > > > For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and > > rest > > and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . > > > > Richard > > > > What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or > > not > > what state of art another one is exhibiting?? > > There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to > > identify another's experience, another's state? > > -geo- > > > > Right you are. > > There is a cult of sorts centered around Shirdi Sai Baba, folks praying to > him,etc. He is said to have worked miracles. I was curious as to whether > this is fact or fiction. > > The knowing of this, as you imply, is of no significance. > > " There is only here...Will one realize this...? " , asks you. My question is: > Isn't one already always realized? What's the difference if there is lila or > not, the one is the one is the one. > > R. > > I agree. In most cases the cult thing happens at a very superficial level. > Many start off in an almost desperate > search in the projected as-if outside world. The good result if this is a > sense of frustration... and perhaps > a sharp turn to something completely different. The bad one .... is when > they find it. > > PS - I asked your age because you mention " school class-room " so I was > wondering..... > -geo- > When they find it, they as seekers have lost their seeker identity. Sometimes what follows is a scramble to re-establish some kind of i.d., e.g., I am this, I am that, I am god or a new and improved vast ego. I.d. = a someone that is a something = dualistic notions. My class room is this e-group. I look forward to graduation. My age is 68. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 - richarkar Nisargadatta Monday, March 29, 2010 11:11 AM Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > richarkar > Nisargadatta > Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:12 PM > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > richarkar > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa > > > > Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. > > Maybe > > you can help me. > > > > From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, > > and > > even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do > > they > > get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? > > Imagination? > > Wishful thinking? > > > > For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and > > rest > > and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . > > > > Richard > > > > What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or > > not > > what state of art another one is exhibiting?? > > There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to > > identify another's experience, another's state? > > -geo- > > > > Right you are. > > There is a cult of sorts centered around Shirdi Sai Baba, folks praying to > him,etc. He is said to have worked miracles. I was curious as to whether > this is fact or fiction. > > The knowing of this, as you imply, is of no significance. > > " There is only here...Will one realize this...? " , asks you. My question > is: > Isn't one already always realized? What's the difference if there is lila > or > not, the one is the one is the one. > > R. > > I agree. In most cases the cult thing happens at a very superficial level. > Many start off in an almost desperate > search in the projected as-if outside world. The good result if this is a > sense of frustration... and perhaps > a sharp turn to something completely different. The bad one .... is when > they find it. > > PS - I asked your age because you mention " school class-room " so I was > wondering..... > -geo- > When they find it, they as seekers have lost their seeker identity. Sometimes what follows is a scramble to re-establish some kind of i.d., e.g., I am this, I am that, I am god or a new and improved vast ego. I.d. = a someone that is a something = dualistic notions. My class room is this e-group. I look forward to graduation. My age is 68. == Shhhhh.....just a kid.. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > richarkar > Nisargadatta > Monday, March 29, 2010 11:11 AM > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > richarkar > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:12 PM > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > richarkar > > > Nisargadatta > > > Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa > > > > > > Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. > > > Maybe > > > you can help me. > > > > > > From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, > > > and > > > even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do > > > they > > > get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? > > > Imagination? > > > Wishful thinking? > > > > > > For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and > > > rest > > > and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or > > > not > > > what state of art another one is exhibiting?? > > > There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to > > > identify another's experience, another's state? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Right you are. > > > > There is a cult of sorts centered around Shirdi Sai Baba, folks praying to > > him,etc. He is said to have worked miracles. I was curious as to whether > > this is fact or fiction. > > > > The knowing of this, as you imply, is of no significance. > > > > " There is only here...Will one realize this...? " , asks you. My question > > is: > > Isn't one already always realized? What's the difference if there is lila > > or > > not, the one is the one is the one. > > > > R. > > > > I agree. In most cases the cult thing happens at a very superficial level. > > Many start off in an almost desperate > > search in the projected as-if outside world. The good result if this is a > > sense of frustration... and perhaps > > a sharp turn to something completely different. The bad one .... is when > > they find it. > > > > PS - I asked your age because you mention " school class-room " so I was > > wondering..... > > -geo- > > > > When they find it, they as seekers have lost their seeker identity. > Sometimes what follows is a scramble to re-establish some kind of i.d., > e.g., I am this, I am that, I am god or a new and improved vast ego. I.d. = > a someone that is a something = dualistic notions. > > My class room is this e-group. I look forward to graduation. My age is 68. > == > > Shhhhh.....just a kid.. > -geo- > Did I read this in one of these groups or a book? But, what is it that seems the same now as it did when we were kids? The answer given was awareness. Things do seem the same now as then. But of course we were never born, never age, never die. Boring isn't it, this unchanging stateless state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " richarkar " <richarkar wrote: > > > > I agree. In most cases the cult thing happens at a very superficial level. > > Many start off in an almost desperate > > search in the projected as-if outside world. The good result if this is a > > sense of frustration... and perhaps > > a sharp turn to something completely different. The bad one .... is when > > they find it. > > > > PS - I asked your age because you mention " school class-room " so I was > > wondering..... > > -geo- > > > > When they find it, they as seekers have lost their seeker identity. Sometimes what follows is a scramble to re-establish some kind of i.d., e.g., I am this, I am that, I am god or a new and improved vast ego. I.d. = a someone that is a something = dualistic notions. > > My class room is this e-group. I look forward to graduation. My age is 68. D: This sounds like a scene from The Wizard of Oz, Pt. II. Okay, grasshopper (if there are 68 yr. old grasshoppers) - here is your diploma. It signifies that you are who you are, and that you have graduated from needing to believe anything else is needed. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Nisargadatta , " richarkar " <richarkar wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > richarkar > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, March 29, 2010 11:11 AM > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > richarkar > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:12 PM > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > richarkar > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM > > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa > > > > > > > > Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. > > > > Maybe > > > > you can help me. > > > > > > > > From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, > > > > and > > > > even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do > > > > they > > > > get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? > > > > Imagination? > > > > Wishful thinking? > > > > > > > > For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and > > > > rest > > > > and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or > > > > not > > > > what state of art another one is exhibiting?? > > > > There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to > > > > identify another's experience, another's state? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > Right you are. > > > > > > There is a cult of sorts centered around Shirdi Sai Baba, folks praying to > > > him,etc. He is said to have worked miracles. I was curious as to whether > > > this is fact or fiction. > > > > > > The knowing of this, as you imply, is of no significance. > > > > > > " There is only here...Will one realize this...? " , asks you. My question > > > is: > > > Isn't one already always realized? What's the difference if there is lila > > > or > > > not, the one is the one is the one. > > > > > > R. > > > > > > I agree. In most cases the cult thing happens at a very superficial level. > > > Many start off in an almost desperate > > > search in the projected as-if outside world. The good result if this is a > > > sense of frustration... and perhaps > > > a sharp turn to something completely different. The bad one .... is when > > > they find it. > > > > > > PS - I asked your age because you mention " school class-room " so I was > > > wondering..... > > > -geo- > > > > > > > When they find it, they as seekers have lost their seeker identity. > > Sometimes what follows is a scramble to re-establish some kind of i.d., > > e.g., I am this, I am that, I am god or a new and improved vast ego. I.d. = > > a someone that is a something = dualistic notions. > > > > My class room is this e-group. I look forward to graduation. My age is 68. > > == > > > > Shhhhh.....just a kid.. > > -geo- > > > > Did I read this in one of these groups or a book? But, what is it that seems the same now as it did when we were kids? The answer given was awareness. Things do seem the same now as then. D: The answer, my friend, is blown in the wind. > But of course we were never born, never age, never die. Boring isn't it, this unchanging stateless state? D: Boring? Wouldn't that require someone apart, who could be bored? Well, this just constantly changes without changing. But I know you've heard that one before. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " richarkar " <richarkar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > richarkar > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, March 29, 2010 11:11 AM > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > richarkar > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:12 PM > > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > richarkar > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM > > > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa > > > > > > > > > > Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. > > > > > Maybe > > > > > you can help me. > > > > > > > > > > From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, > > > > > and > > > > > even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do > > > > > they > > > > > get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? > > > > > Imagination? > > > > > Wishful thinking? > > > > > > > > > > For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and > > > > > rest > > > > > and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or > > > > > not > > > > > what state of art another one is exhibiting?? > > > > > There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to > > > > > identify another's experience, another's state? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right you are. > > > > > > > > There is a cult of sorts centered around Shirdi Sai Baba, folks praying to > > > > him,etc. He is said to have worked miracles. I was curious as to whether > > > > this is fact or fiction. > > > > > > > > The knowing of this, as you imply, is of no significance. > > > > > > > > " There is only here...Will one realize this...? " , asks you. My question > > > > is: > > > > Isn't one already always realized? What's the difference if there is lila > > > > or > > > > not, the one is the one is the one. > > > > > > > > R. > > > > > > > > I agree. In most cases the cult thing happens at a very superficial level. > > > > Many start off in an almost desperate > > > > search in the projected as-if outside world. The good result if this is a > > > > sense of frustration... and perhaps > > > > a sharp turn to something completely different. The bad one .... is when > > > > they find it. > > > > > > > > PS - I asked your age because you mention " school class-room " so I was > > > > wondering..... > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > When they find it, they as seekers have lost their seeker identity. > > > Sometimes what follows is a scramble to re-establish some kind of i.d., > > > e.g., I am this, I am that, I am god or a new and improved vast ego. I.d. = > > > a someone that is a something = dualistic notions. > > > > > > My class room is this e-group. I look forward to graduation. My age is 68. > > > == > > > > > > Shhhhh.....just a kid.. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Did I read this in one of these groups or a book? But, what is it that seems the same now as it did when we were kids? The answer given was awareness. Things do seem the same now as then. > > D: The answer, my friend, is blown in the wind. > > > But of course we were never born, never age, never die. Boring isn't it, this unchanging stateless state? > > D: Boring? Wouldn't that require someone apart, who could > be bored? Well, this just constantly changes > without changing. But I know you've heard that one before. > > - D - wouldn't the point of your posting that crap constantly.. require someone apart from you.. whom you feel would benefit from listening to such bullshit? well bullshit is bullshit no matter how much it changes. dabbo you're an obsequious little nerd. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Nisargadatta , " richarkar " <richarkar wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > richarkar > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, March 29, 2010 11:11 AM > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > richarkar > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:12 PM > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > richarkar > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM > > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa > > > > > > > > Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. > > > > Maybe > > > > you can help me. > > > > > > > > From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, > > > > and > > > > even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do > > > > they > > > > get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? > > > > Imagination? > > > > Wishful thinking? > > > > > > > > For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and > > > > rest > > > > and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or > > > > not > > > > what state of art another one is exhibiting?? > > > > There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to > > > > identify another's experience, another's state? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > Right you are. > > > > > > There is a cult of sorts centered around Shirdi Sai Baba, folks praying to > > > him,etc. He is said to have worked miracles. I was curious as to whether > > > this is fact or fiction. > > > > > > The knowing of this, as you imply, is of no significance. > > > > > > " There is only here...Will one realize this...? " , asks you. My question > > > is: > > > Isn't one already always realized? What's the difference if there is lila > > > or > > > not, the one is the one is the one. > > > > > > R. > > > > > > I agree. In most cases the cult thing happens at a very superficial level. > > > Many start off in an almost desperate > > > search in the projected as-if outside world. The good result if this is a > > > sense of frustration... and perhaps > > > a sharp turn to something completely different. The bad one .... is when > > > they find it. > > > > > > PS - I asked your age because you mention " school class-room " so I was > > > wondering..... > > > -geo- > > > > > > > When they find it, they as seekers have lost their seeker identity. > > Sometimes what follows is a scramble to re-establish some kind of i.d., > > e.g., I am this, I am that, I am god or a new and improved vast ego. I.d. = > > a someone that is a something = dualistic notions. > > > > My class room is this e-group. I look forward to graduation. My age is 68. > > == > > > > Shhhhh.....just a kid.. > > -geo- > > > > Did I read this in one of these groups or a book? But, what is it that seems the same now as it did when we were kids? The answer given was awareness. Things do seem the same now as then. > yes it's the buddhist story which goes something like we start as a kid, then discover profound enlitened spiritual states and if we are lucky we end up as a kid and shed the profound enlitened state. it's time to return to the state among the living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " richarkar " <richarkar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > richarkar > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, March 29, 2010 11:11 AM > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > richarkar > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:12 PM > > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > richarkar > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:20 PM > > > > > Re: 27-3-2010 THE LOVE OF MOTHER SHIRDI SAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bhagavatula murthy <bhagavatulam@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How I See Sri Sai Satcharita -by Saibanisa > > > > > > > > > > Here's a question I've had for a while and didn't know whom to ask. > > > > > Maybe > > > > > you can help me. > > > > > > > > > > From what I've read, Shirdi Sai was a recluse, didn't speak to people, > > > > > and > > > > > even through rocks at them to keep them away from him. Where then do > > > > > they > > > > > get all these stories about who he was and what he was doing? > > > > > Imagination? > > > > > Wishful thinking? > > > > > > > > > > For example, Ramana Maharshi said something like, " I close my eyes and > > > > > rest > > > > > and they think I am in some deep samadhi " . > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > What does it matter? What difference will it make to oneself to know or > > > > > not > > > > > what state of art another one is exhibiting?? > > > > > There is ony here.... there is no other. Will one realize this trying to > > > > > identify another's experience, another's state? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right you are. > > > > > > > > There is a cult of sorts centered around Shirdi Sai Baba, folks praying to > > > > him,etc. He is said to have worked miracles. I was curious as to whether > > > > this is fact or fiction. > > > > > > > > The knowing of this, as you imply, is of no significance. > > > > > > > > " There is only here...Will one realize this...? " , asks you. My question > > > > is: > > > > Isn't one already always realized? What's the difference if there is lila > > > > or > > > > not, the one is the one is the one. > > > > > > > > R. > > > > > > > > I agree. In most cases the cult thing happens at a very superficial level. > > > > Many start off in an almost desperate > > > > search in the projected as-if outside world. The good result if this is a > > > > sense of frustration... and perhaps > > > > a sharp turn to something completely different. The bad one .... is when > > > > they find it. > > > > > > > > PS - I asked your age because you mention " school class-room " so I was > > > > wondering..... > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > When they find it, they as seekers have lost their seeker identity. > > > Sometimes what follows is a scramble to re-establish some kind of i.d., > > > e.g., I am this, I am that, I am god or a new and improved vast ego. I.d. = > > > a someone that is a something = dualistic notions. > > > > > > My class room is this e-group. I look forward to graduation. My age is 68. > > > == > > > > > > Shhhhh.....just a kid.. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Did I read this in one of these groups or a book? But, what is it that seems the same now as it did when we were kids? The answer given was awareness. Things do seem the same now as then. > > > yes it's the buddhist story which goes something like we start as a kid, then discover profound enlitened spiritual states and if we are lucky we end up as a kid and shed the profound enlitened state. it's time to return to the state among the living. Having never left. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 i don't know who the mother of shirdi sai is... but i wish i had a mother shirdi sai to believe in sometimes, the way catholics worship virgin mary. i don't know what happened to me but along the way my beliefs in saintly figures mostly left me. in times of difficulty it would be so much easier to worship a mother mary figure for comfort...only if could believe in. i also want to believe in heaven...the all inclusive free resort...but then again who's gonna serve us in this luxury resort, clean the rooms, make the beds, serve us cold drinks? why did i have to ruin everything with my consistent search? sometimes i want to believe and also sleep the way i used to be able to sleep 10 hours when i was younger...nowadays though i keep waking up every few hours since my cpap machine for sleep apnea wakes me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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