Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > No investment in the past, which includes " space " as well -- as remembered. > > > > Not sure what you mean by " includes 'space' as well " ... > > > > Do you mean the sense of there being space is due to memory? > > > > - Dan - > > > > Basically, yes... the notion of 'something out there', outside awareness. > > As it's memory, it isn't out there, outside awareness -- but arising 'here', as memory. D: So, following you here: you're saying that spatial perception depends on memory. That makes sense to me. And even in observing " human development " as if occurring " out there " : Infants take a while to develop a sense of space. They have to build up enough experience in memory, then the template of time and space can be implemented: inherited memory, inherited with the body-mind, which is a memory template. Yes, that memory template is used to position " things " out there where " I " interact with " them. " And the " I " assumes awareness to itself, in a location " here. " Because " things " come and go, but " I " remain " here " as the " one who interacts with the things that affect me. " And awareness doesn't really have a personalized location. Just that memory gives that assumption, in order to develop concepts of things existing in space and time, with which " I " interact. Understanding that memory doesn't have the power to " make " anything, the actuality is nonlocal awareness. And what is perceived as " things " is that awareness. Even memory arising is that awareness. One understands this first-hand and directly, or not. Words, even " awareness, " are translations for the sake of " mind, " which is memory/thought. The word " awareness " is used because " this is first-hand, direct, what one considers most oneself, the here-ness " of one's being. Memory/thought can be the basis for being fooled, but need not be. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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