Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Dears, Easter is over - luckily - it has been some dreadful days. I do not know if there is a mind outside memory or not but it is very clear today, is that mind. We use posh and complicated terms and get more and more en tangled, tangled up in thoughts and words and terms and so the essentials get lost. Let me make it as simple as can: Theres suffering. Suffering has a cause. Krishnamurti said the cause is conditioning and I agree. I am a " conditioned human being " which is the same as a robot, mechanism which acts according to the way it was programmed to act. I was not a clean slate when I was born. I was overpainted, print all over. I had inherited my predessors conditioning and I grew up, and still more conditioning was added to it. Mechanical actions create conflict because one does not act in accordance with any given present situation. One acts me chanically. Like a robot. Lack of correspondance between a situation and the actions taken in the situation leads to conflict and suffering. It is quite simple. Now, where did the text above arise from? What is the root of those words? Their platform? The platform is understanding, realisation, insight if you will; understanding why there is conflict and suffering is discovering the root, the cause of it. Action taken on basis of understanding ones pre-programming and that it leads to suffering to act in accordance with it is a quite different action than actions, taken on basis of programming, conditioning. A robot cannot do anything about what it is. I can't change my conditioning. Only understanding the problem, and acting from that understanding can bring about a change. This is clear as daylight. When the ego (thanks for reminding me, Werner) which is the conditioning, the me, the self is gone, and its wiped away, eradicated every time there's understanding its problematic situation - the doer is gone - and there is nomore conflict because the usual gap between doer and problem is erased by or qua or through or via understanding what causes the gap, namely conditioning. Without a doer (the robottic, mechanical conditioned being) the action taken in any given situation calls for action is in correspondance with the situation given, instead of with the conditioning, the programming, the ego. With the annihilation of the ego, duality is gone. There is just whatever the situation (not necessarily a problem) and acting! in correspondance with it. There's no actor present - no me - no ego - no I. That is Krishnamurtis philosophy & non-dual philosophy in a nutshell together, two nuts in one shell and a third nut reporting it. Happy new years to come - and to all of you of course Love Lene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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