Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 If you are so inclined, check the schedule for your local Public Broadcasting Service. The Buddha will be giving his customary once in a century state of Nirvana speech this evening. Well, not quite, but Richard Geere will narrate a two hour long pseudo biography with all the imaginary facts about Gautama commonly accepted by the Sangha. Enjoy, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > If you are so inclined, check the schedule for your local Public > Broadcasting Service. The Buddha will be giving his customary > once in a century state of Nirvana speech this evening. Well, not > quite, but Richard Geere will narrate a two hour long pseudo > biography with all the imaginary facts about Gautama commonly > accepted by the Sangha. > > Enjoy, > > Pete does this documentary cover his secret years in the Amazon Rain Forest? ..b b.b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > If you are so inclined, check the schedule for your local Public > > Broadcasting Service. The Buddha will be giving his customary > > once in a century state of Nirvana speech this evening. Well, not > > quite, but Richard Geere will narrate a two hour long pseudo > > biography with all the imaginary facts about Gautama commonly > > accepted by the Sangha. > > > > Enjoy, > > > > Pete > > > does this documentary cover his secret years in the Amazon Rain Forest? > > .b b.b no? well how 'bout the UFO connection? does this doc. cover ANY of the important stuff? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > does this documentary cover his secret years in the Amazon Rain Forest? > > > > .b b.b > > > no? > > well how 'bout the UFO connection? > > does this doc. cover ANY of the important stuff? > > .b b.b. *_* This snippet about the film answers your questions, b: Dr. Mark Epstein, a psychiatrist and Buddhist and one of the experts quoted in Grubin's film, told reporters. " Buddha, like Freud, was a realist. He was intent on observing experience just for what it was and not adding or subtracting anything from it. *_* In other words, of COURSE it's going to cover all of that stuff, especially the UFO connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > If you are so inclined, check the schedule for your local Public > > > Broadcasting Service. The Buddha will be giving his customary > > > once in a century state of Nirvana speech this evening. Well, not > > > quite, but Richard Geere will narrate a two hour long pseudo > > > biography with all the imaginary facts about Gautama commonly > > > accepted by the Sangha. > > > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > does this documentary cover his secret years in the Amazon Rain Forest? > > > > .b b.b > > > no? > > well how 'bout the UFO connection? > > does this doc. cover ANY of the important stuff? > > .b b.b. dang i missed it i guess. my sources tell me that it was funded on PBS.. by the Cattlemen Association.... Opus Dei.. and viewers just like you. most importantly though.. who starred as Buddha? was this Emmy material? did they mention reruns? oh it'll always come back i guess. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > does this documentary cover his secret years in the Amazon Rain Forest? > > > > > > .b b.b > > > > > > no? > > > > well how 'bout the UFO connection? > > > > does this doc. cover ANY of the important stuff? > > > > .b b.b. > > > *_* This snippet about the film answers your questions, b: > > > Dr. Mark Epstein, a psychiatrist and Buddhist and one of the experts quoted in Grubin's film, told reporters. > > " Buddha, like Freud, was a realist. He was intent on observing experience just for what it was and not adding or subtracting anything from it. > > *_* In other words, of COURSE it's going to cover > all of that stuff, especially the UFO connection. and the sexual things they did to him too? those rotten bastards! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: : > > > > does this documentary cover his secret years in the Amazon Rain Forest? > > > > > > > > .b b.b > > > > > > > > > no? > > > > > > well how 'bout the UFO connection? > > > > > > does this doc. cover ANY of the important stuff? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > *_* This snippet about the film answers your questions, b: > > > > > > Dr. Mark Epstein, a psychiatrist and Buddhist and one of the experts quoted in Grubin's film, told reporters. > > > > " Buddha, like Freud, was a realist. He was intent on observing experience just for what it was and not adding or subtracting anything from it. > > > > *_* In other words, of COURSE it's going to cover > > all of that stuff, especially the UFO connection. bbb:> and the sexual things they did to him too? > > those rotten bastards! > > .b b.b. *_* You mean on the mothership? Yes, that too. It's important to the development of Buddhism. Even today, we have people who experience something unusual enough to want to seek out a therapist. Their confusion lies in the question " Was it the spiritual Buddhi field that enveloped me, or was I beamed up into a space ship? " Obviously, the answer is " both " . Some of us are the half alien, half Buddha decendents of the terrifying, humiliating, days that Buddha spent in the ship. We are the only true Buddhists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > : > > > > > does this documentary cover his secret years in the Amazon Rain Forest? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b > > > > > > > > > > > > no? > > > > > > > > well how 'bout the UFO connection? > > > > > > > > does this doc. cover ANY of the important stuff? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > *_* This snippet about the film answers your questions, b: > > > > > > > > > Dr. Mark Epstein, a psychiatrist and Buddhist and one of the experts quoted in Grubin's film, told reporters. > > > > > > " Buddha, like Freud, was a realist. He was intent on observing experience just for what it was and not adding or subtracting anything from it. > > > > > > *_* In other words, of COURSE it's going to cover > > > all of that stuff, especially the UFO connection. > > > bbb:> and the sexual things they did to him too? > > > > those rotten bastards! > > > > .b b.b. > > > *_* You mean on the mothership? Yes, that too. > It's important to the development of Buddhism. > > Even today, we have people who experience > something unusual enough to want to seek out > a therapist. Their confusion lies in the > question " Was it the spiritual Buddhi field > that enveloped me, > or was I beamed up into a space ship? " > > Obviously, the answer is " both " . Some of us are > the half alien, half Buddha decendents of the > terrifying, humiliating, days that Buddha spent > in the ship. We are the only true Buddhists. > Rofl, Niko. True. Those experiments were something else, eh? Love, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > : > > > > > does this documentary cover his secret years in the Amazon Rain Forest? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b > > > > > > > > > > > > no? > > > > > > > > well how 'bout the UFO connection? > > > > > > > > does this doc. cover ANY of the important stuff? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > *_* This snippet about the film answers your questions, b: > > > > > > > > > Dr. Mark Epstein, a psychiatrist and Buddhist and one of the experts quoted in Grubin's film, told reporters. > > > > > > " Buddha, like Freud, was a realist. He was intent on observing experience just for what it was and not adding or subtracting anything from it. > > > > > > *_* In other words, of COURSE it's going to cover > > > all of that stuff, especially the UFO connection. > > > bbb:> and the sexual things they did to him too? > > > > those rotten bastards! > > > > .b b.b. > > > *_* You mean on the mothership? Yes, that too. > It's important to the development of Buddhism. > > Even today, we have people who experience > something unusual enough to want to seek out > a therapist. Their confusion lies in the > question " Was it the spiritual Buddhi field > that enveloped me, > or was I beamed up into a space ship? " > > Obviously, the answer is " both " . Some of us are > the half alien, half Buddha decendents of the > terrifying, humiliating, days that Buddha spent > in the ship. We are the only true Buddhists. i thought so. and even though my thoughts are mere deluded brain-fart ramblings.. arising spontaeneously and without reason nor rhyme... and significantly they burst forth in this meaningless way... somewhere in space and time and form and illusion... that " I " whoever the hell that is..Recognizes as NOW...HERE...ME. those brain farts tell me.. you are speaking the truth....the sraight shootin' truth. golly. so these implanted things.. the little do-dads that monitor your every thought and every move. they're normal? ok then. the ship is going to return. on a cloud. in the sky. that's about it. that's all Buddha said. except he also says it doesn't matter. like it really doesn't matter if you can't laugh. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > Obviously, the answer is " both " . Some of us are > > the half alien, half Buddha decendents of the > > terrifying, humiliating, days that Buddha spent > > in the ship. We are the only true Buddhists. > Rofl, Niko. > > True. Those experiments were something else, eh? > > Love, > Anna > *_* Yes! They still are something else, as you are well aware. Leaps in consciousness, odd configurations of light, spacey travel, new beings arising with every breath, what is a body to do? Could write poetry or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > : > > > > > does this documentary cover his secret years in the Amazon Rain Forest? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b > > > > > > > > > > > > no? > > > > > > > > well how 'bout the UFO connection? > > > > > > > > does this doc. cover ANY of the important stuff? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > *_* This snippet about the film answers your questions, b: > > > > > > > > > Dr. Mark Epstein, a psychiatrist and Buddhist and one of the experts quoted in Grubin's film, told reporters. > > > > > > " Buddha, like Freud, was a realist. He was intent on observing experience just for what it was and not adding or subtracting anything from it. > > > > > > *_* In other words, of COURSE it's going to cover > > > all of that stuff, especially the UFO connection. > > > bbb:> and the sexual things they did to him too? > > > > those rotten bastards! > > > > .b b.b. > > > *_* You mean on the mothership? Yes, that too. > It's important to the development of Buddhism. > > Even today, we have people who experience > something unusual enough to want to seek out > a therapist. Their confusion lies in the > question " Was it the spiritual Buddhi field > that enveloped me, > or was I beamed up into a space ship? " > > Obviously, the answer is " both " . Some of us are > the half alien, half Buddha decendents of the > terrifying, humiliating, days that Buddha spent > in the ship. We are the only true Buddhists. P: Oh, I'm static! My " O " goddess is here! Both religion and UFOs are for the masses' entertainment and edification. So both the God, and the founding father of a religion must have superhuman powers. It seems, there is a need to adore an alpha figure in the mammalian brain. We, humans, being conceptual beings are not satisfied with adoring a human being, we need to adore the ultimate alpha: a Godlike being or concept, and religion satisfies that need with myth. Could a religion survive by saying: Joe Blow our founder, just a man like you, lived a blissful life by believing this... What do you think? Give it a try. That religion would never take off. This need is so ingrained, that even Buddhism that doesn't postulate a God, has made Buddha into an object of adoration. We can say Buddhists are like latent homosexuals that don't dare to come out of the deity closet. Nondualists are not immune to deification. Although few will admit it, Awareness has become a Godlike figure for them. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > P: Oh, I'm static! *_* Do try to avoid gasoline fumes. Pete: Both > religion and UFOs are for the masses' entertainment > and edification. So both the God, and the founding > father of a religion must have superhuman powers. *_* Yes, not necessarily all powerful, but they must have something to prove the existence of a higher realm. Pete:> It seems, there is a need to adore an alpha figure > in the mammalian brain. We, humans, being conceptual > beings are not satisfied with adoring a human being, > we need to adore the ultimate alpha: a Godlike being > or concept, and religion satisfies that need with myth. *_* Human beings let us down. The most adorable of the alpha human lets us down. If I'm not mistaken, the Bible mentions that man is like the wind, always changing and not in a predictable way...with a whim and a mood. Some versions of the gods were exactly that way, just magnified and more terrifying. However, some people did dream of love and from those dreams, gods became kings of heavenly realms. The personal god is one who loves the person unconditionally, but burns that person's enemies. Mmmm...sounds good so far... Pete:> Could a religion survive by saying: Joe Blow our founder, > just a man like you, lived a blissful life by believing > this... What do you think? Give it a try. That religion > would never take off. > > This need is so ingrained, that even Buddhism that doesn't > postulate a God, has made Buddha into an object of adoration. > We can say Buddhists are like latent homosexuals that don't > dare to come out of the deity closet. > > Nondualists are not immune to deification. Although few will > admit it, Awareness has become a Godlike figure for them. *_* Indeed Awareness has become a godlike figure. Consciousness is a complex phenom. Over time, it creates cozy limited islands of familiar and trusted cribs of existence. As a baby in a crib, how can we ease these limitations? Isn't it natural to look to a parent figure to coax us out while watching over us? We might trust in a living guru if we think he knows all there is to know about existence. Or, we could come to believe that a part of our own imagination in the form of a well worn and tried and true myth will be there to pick us up when we lean over the edge too far. Awareness as God might be less limiting at first than superhuman images of God in that it expands our conscious bounderies. Then, it's likely to become even more limiting than a Buddha image. I'll let you explain how it becomes more limiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > P: Oh, I'm static! > > *_* Do try to avoid gasoline fumes. > > > Pete: Both > > religion and UFOs are for the masses' entertainment > > and edification. So both the God, and the founding > > father of a religion must have superhuman powers. > > > *_* Yes, not necessarily all powerful, but > they must have something to prove the existence > of a higher realm. > > > Pete:> It seems, there is a need to adore an alpha figure > > in the mammalian brain. We, humans, being conceptual > > beings are not satisfied with adoring a human being, > > we need to adore the ultimate alpha: a Godlike being > > or concept, and religion satisfies that need with myth. > > *_* > > Human beings let us down. The most adorable of the > alpha human lets us down. > > If I'm not mistaken, the Bible mentions that man is > like the wind, always changing and not in a predictable > way...with a whim and a mood. > > Some versions of the gods were exactly that way, just > magnified and more terrifying. > > However, some people did dream of love and from those > dreams, gods became kings of heavenly realms. The > personal god is one who loves the person unconditionally, > but burns that person's enemies. > Mmmm...sounds good so far... > > > > Pete:> > Could a religion survive by saying: Joe Blow our founder, > > just a man like you, lived a blissful life by believing > > this... What do you think? Give it a try. That religion > > would never take off. > > > > This need is so ingrained, that even Buddhism that doesn't > > postulate a God, has made Buddha into an object of adoration. > > We can say Buddhists are like latent homosexuals that don't > > dare to come out of the deity closet. > > > > Nondualists are not immune to deification. Although few will > > admit it, Awareness has become a Godlike figure for them. > > > *_* > > Indeed Awareness has become a godlike figure. > > Consciousness is a complex phenom. Over time, > it creates cozy limited islands of familiar > and trusted cribs of existence. As a baby in > a crib, how can we ease these limitations? > Isn't it natural to look to a parent figure > to coax us out while watching over us? > > We > might trust in a living guru if we think he > knows all there is to know about existence. > > Or, we could come to believe that a part of > our own imagination in the form of a well > worn and tried and true myth will be there > to pick us up when we lean over the edge too > far. > > Awareness as God might be less limiting at > first than superhuman images of God in > that it expands our conscious bounderies. > > Then, it's likely to > become even more limiting than a Buddha > image. I'll let you explain how it becomes > more limiting. for sure.... Buddha was no Buddhist. Jesus Christ did not adhere to nor did he create.. Christianity and it's Articles of Faith. Henry Ford did not invent the Focus. it's a long long way to Tipperare. once this is Undersood.. you can relax because IT is now accomplished. no need to stick around but you will. because you're a saint.. and because you're hedging your bets. being merely an enlightened being sharing with all.. you can't say. and even if you could.. you wouldn't believe it anyway. but i believe you. not that it matters. but for the hell of it... let someone s'plain it. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > >O: Awareness as God might be less limiting at > first than superhuman images of God in > that it expands our conscious bounderies. > > Then, it's likely to > become even more limiting than a Buddha > image. I'll let you explain how it becomes > more limiting. P: Not really more limiting, but more hard to shake off. People who deify awareness, tend to think they are the highest. How can you keep sailing to Japan, if you believe the Caribbean islands are it? As long as we prefer awareness to unawareness, there is an " I " there doing the preferring. In the philosophical post office there is a poster: Wanted Dead or Alive, aware or unaware: The Absolute, aka the Unknown, Nothingness, The One, Awareness, This and That. If you spot it, don't try to apprehend it. It is an armed and dangerous serial killer of personas and " I's " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Friday, April 09, 2010 1:57 PM Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > >O: Awareness as God might be less limiting at > first than superhuman images of God in > that it expands our conscious bounderies. > > Then, it's likely to > become even more limiting than a Buddha > image. I'll let you explain how it becomes > more limiting. P: Not really more limiting, but more hard to shake off. People who deify awareness, tend to think they are the highest. How can you keep sailing to Japan, if you believe the Caribbean islands are it? As long as we prefer awareness to unawareness, there is an " I " there doing the preferring. In the philosophical post office there is a poster: Wanted Dead or Alive, aware or unaware: The Absolute, aka the Unknown, Nothingness, The One, Awareness, This and That. If you spot it, don't try to apprehend it. It is an armed and dangerous serial killer of personas and " I's " . geo> Have you apprehended it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Friday, April 09, 2010 1:57 PM > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > >O: Awareness as God might be less limiting at > > first than superhuman images of God in > > that it expands our conscious bounderies. > > > > Then, it's likely to > > become even more limiting than a Buddha > > image. I'll let you explain how it becomes > > more limiting. > > P: Not really more limiting, but more hard > to shake off. People who deify awareness, tend > to think they are the highest. How can you > keep sailing to Japan, if you believe the > Caribbean islands are it? > > As long as we prefer awareness to unawareness, > there is an " I " there doing the preferring. > > In the philosophical post office there is > a poster: Wanted Dead or Alive, aware > or unaware: The Absolute, aka the Unknown, > Nothingness, The One, Awareness, This and That. > > If you spot it, don't try to apprehend it. It > is an armed and dangerous serial killer of personas > and " I's " . > > geo> Have you apprehended it? P: No. When I was a small child it gave me pleasure to blow soap bubbles and then chase them in order to catch them. Sometimes, one would land on the palm of my hand, but became nothing the moment I made a fist. Wisdom is understanding that joy comes from chasing, not from owning. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Friday, April 09, 2010 2:49 PM Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Friday, April 09, 2010 1:57 PM > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > >O: Awareness as God might be less limiting at > > first than superhuman images of God in > > that it expands our conscious bounderies. > > > > Then, it's likely to > > become even more limiting than a Buddha > > image. I'll let you explain how it becomes > > more limiting. > > P: Not really more limiting, but more hard > to shake off. People who deify awareness, tend > to think they are the highest. How can you > keep sailing to Japan, if you believe the > Caribbean islands are it? > > As long as we prefer awareness to unawareness, > there is an " I " there doing the preferring. > > In the philosophical post office there is > a poster: Wanted Dead or Alive, aware > or unaware: The Absolute, aka the Unknown, > Nothingness, The One, Awareness, This and That. > > If you spot it, don't try to apprehend it. It > is an armed and dangerous serial killer of personas > and " I's " . > > geo> Have you apprehended it? P: No. When I was a small child it gave me pleasure to blow soap bubbles and then chase them in order to catch them. Sometimes, one would land on the palm of my hand, but became nothing the moment I made a fist. Wisdom is understanding that joy comes from chasing, not from owning. geo> I thought so...as it is a serial killer of personas and " I's " and you have not apprehended it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Friday, April 09, 2010 2:49 PM > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > cerosoul > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, April 09, 2010 1:57 PM > > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >O: Awareness as God might be less limiting at > > > first than superhuman images of God in > > > that it expands our conscious bounderies. > > > > > > Then, it's likely to > > > become even more limiting than a Buddha > > > image. I'll let you explain how it becomes > > > more limiting. > > > > P: Not really more limiting, but more hard > > to shake off. People who deify awareness, tend > > to think they are the highest. How can you > > keep sailing to Japan, if you believe the > > Caribbean islands are it? > > > > As long as we prefer awareness to unawareness, > > there is an " I " there doing the preferring. > > > > In the philosophical post office there is > > a poster: Wanted Dead or Alive, aware > > or unaware: The Absolute, aka the Unknown, > > Nothingness, The One, Awareness, This and That. > > > > If you spot it, don't try to apprehend it. It > > is an armed and dangerous serial killer of personas > > and " I's " . > > > > geo> Have you apprehended it? > > P: No. When I was a small child it gave me pleasure > to blow soap bubbles and then chase them in order to catch > them. Sometimes, one would land on the palm of my > hand, but became nothing the moment I made a fist. > > Wisdom is understanding that joy comes from chasing, > not from owning. > > geo> I thought so...as it is a serial killer of personas and " I's " and you > have not apprehended it. P: Can a dead cop apprehend a killer? No one has ever apprehend it, Geo. Chasing is all there is. So, enjoy the chase while it lasts. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Friday, April 09, 2010 3:10 PM Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Friday, April 09, 2010 2:49 PM > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > cerosoul > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, April 09, 2010 1:57 PM > > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >O: Awareness as God might be less limiting at > > > first than superhuman images of God in > > > that it expands our conscious bounderies. > > > > > > Then, it's likely to > > > become even more limiting than a Buddha > > > image. I'll let you explain how it becomes > > > more limiting. > > > > P: Not really more limiting, but more hard > > to shake off. People who deify awareness, tend > > to think they are the highest. How can you > > keep sailing to Japan, if you believe the > > Caribbean islands are it? > > > > As long as we prefer awareness to unawareness, > > there is an " I " there doing the preferring. > > > > In the philosophical post office there is > > a poster: Wanted Dead or Alive, aware > > or unaware: The Absolute, aka the Unknown, > > Nothingness, The One, Awareness, This and That. > > > > If you spot it, don't try to apprehend it. It > > is an armed and dangerous serial killer of personas > > and " I's " . > > > > geo> Have you apprehended it? > > P: No. When I was a small child it gave me pleasure > to blow soap bubbles and then chase them in order to catch > them. Sometimes, one would land on the palm of my > hand, but became nothing the moment I made a fist. > > Wisdom is understanding that joy comes from chasing, > not from owning. > > geo> I thought so...as it is a serial killer of personas and " I's " and you > have not apprehended it. P: Can a dead cop apprehend a killer? No one has ever apprehend it, Geo. Chasing is all there is. So, enjoy the chase while it lasts. geo> Who is chasing what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Friday, April 09, 2010 3:10 PM > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > cerosoul > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, April 09, 2010 2:49 PM > > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > cerosoul > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, April 09, 2010 1:57 PM > > > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >O: Awareness as God might be less limiting at > > > > first than superhuman images of God in > > > > that it expands our conscious bounderies. > > > > > > > > Then, it's likely to > > > > become even more limiting than a Buddha > > > > image. I'll let you explain how it becomes > > > > more limiting. > > > > > > P: Not really more limiting, but more hard > > > to shake off. People who deify awareness, tend > > > to think they are the highest. How can you > > > keep sailing to Japan, if you believe the > > > Caribbean islands are it? > > > > > > As long as we prefer awareness to unawareness, > > > there is an " I " there doing the preferring. > > > > > > In the philosophical post office there is > > > a poster: Wanted Dead or Alive, aware > > > or unaware: The Absolute, aka the Unknown, > > > Nothingness, The One, Awareness, This and That. > > > > > > If you spot it, don't try to apprehend it. It > > > is an armed and dangerous serial killer of personas > > > and " I's " . > > > > > > geo> Have you apprehended it? > > > > P: No. When I was a small child it gave me pleasure > > to blow soap bubbles and then chase them in order to catch > > them. Sometimes, one would land on the palm of my > > hand, but became nothing the moment I made a fist. > > > > Wisdom is understanding that joy comes from chasing, > > not from owning. > > > > geo> I thought so...as it is a serial killer of personas and " I's " and you > > have not apprehended it. > > P: Can a dead cop apprehend a killer? > No one has ever apprehend it, Geo. Chasing > is all there is. So, enjoy the chase while > it lasts. > > geo> Who is chasing what? > P: When you have no reply, shut up. That should eliminate 80% of your postings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > geo> Have you apprehended it? > > P: No. When I was a small child it gave me pleasure > to blow soap bubbles and then chase them in order to catch > them. Sometimes, one would land on the palm of my > hand, but became nothing the moment I made a fist. > > Wisdom is understanding that joy comes from chasing, > not from owning. *_* Yes, the symbol for the frustration of trying to own or complete some perfection lies in that moment when something is almost perfect, so balanced, so harmonious, such a even mix of joy and sadness, so sweet.... and then grabbing, tampering, just a little tweaking....only to have it turn to mud, dust in your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > you can't say. > > and even if you could.. > > you wouldn't believe it anyway. > > but i believe you. > > not that it matters. > > but for the hell of it... > > let someone s'plain it. > > .b b.b. *_* Pete follows bright bubbles to smash them, I form images from sooty smoke to show what smoke is like. Maybe an enlightened being would drown their student in soap or suffocate them in a burning building. Maybe, an enlightened being is doing that to all of us even as we speak by creating lives where the moments vanish as quickly as imagined faces of Buddhas in a smoke curl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Friday, April 09, 2010 5:55 PM Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Friday, April 09, 2010 3:10 PM > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > cerosoul > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, April 09, 2010 2:49 PM > > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > cerosoul > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, April 09, 2010 1:57 PM > > > Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " seven_or_so " <onniko00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >O: Awareness as God might be less limiting at > > > > first than superhuman images of God in > > > > that it expands our conscious bounderies. > > > > > > > > Then, it's likely to > > > > become even more limiting than a Buddha > > > > image. I'll let you explain how it becomes > > > > more limiting. > > > > > > P: Not really more limiting, but more hard > > > to shake off. People who deify awareness, tend > > > to think they are the highest. How can you > > > keep sailing to Japan, if you believe the > > > Caribbean islands are it? > > > > > > As long as we prefer awareness to unawareness, > > > there is an " I " there doing the preferring. > > > > > > In the philosophical post office there is > > > a poster: Wanted Dead or Alive, aware > > > or unaware: The Absolute, aka the Unknown, > > > Nothingness, The One, Awareness, This and That. > > > > > > If you spot it, don't try to apprehend it. It > > > is an armed and dangerous serial killer of personas > > > and " I's " . > > > > > > geo> Have you apprehended it? > > > > P: No. When I was a small child it gave me pleasure > > to blow soap bubbles and then chase them in order to catch > > them. Sometimes, one would land on the palm of my > > hand, but became nothing the moment I made a fist. > > > > Wisdom is understanding that joy comes from chasing, > > not from owning. > > > > geo> I thought so...as it is a serial killer of personas and " I's " and > > you > > have not apprehended it. > > P: Can a dead cop apprehend a killer? > No one has ever apprehend it, Geo. Chasing > is all there is. So, enjoy the chase while > it lasts. > > geo> Who is chasing what? > P: When you have no reply, shut up. That should eliminate 80% of your postings. geo: Then why are you talking? Tell us the answer..... :>) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 - seven_or_so Nisargadatta Friday, April 09, 2010 6:09 PM Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > geo> Have you apprehended it? > > P: No. When I was a small child it gave me pleasure > to blow soap bubbles and then chase them in order to catch > them. Sometimes, one would land on the palm of my > hand, but became nothing the moment I made a fist. > > Wisdom is understanding that joy comes from chasing, > not from owning. *_* Yes, the symbol for the frustration of trying to own or complete some perfection lies in that moment when something is almost perfect, so balanced, so harmonious, such a even mix of joy and sadness, so sweet.... and then grabbing, tampering, just a little tweaking....only to have it turn to mud, dust in your hands. geo: Ah but you are not adressing the point. Pete said: " If you spot it, don't try to apprehend it. It is an armed and dangerous serial killer of personas and " I's " . Well..... according to his logic it is better to apprehend it and get done with the " I " and " persona " . :>) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 - seven_or_so Nisargadatta Friday, April 09, 2010 6:09 PM Re: Buddha on PBS Tonight Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > geo> Have you apprehended it? > > P: No. When I was a small child it gave me pleasure > to blow soap bubbles and then chase them in order to catch > them. Sometimes, one would land on the palm of my > hand, but became nothing the moment I made a fist. > > Wisdom is understanding that joy comes from chasing, > not from owning. *_* Yes, the symbol for the frustration of trying to own or complete some perfection lies in that moment when something is almost perfect, so balanced, so harmonious, such a even mix of joy and sadness, so sweet.... and then grabbing, tampering, just a little tweaking....only to have it turn to mud, dust in your hands. == Yes, that happens sometimes. A bitter taste in the mouth... :>/ It is better to swollow the bitter pill and remain with its sweetness! :>) -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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