Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Dear All ! The spring season is just a few weeks away.(In some parts of the world,VASANT RITU is already in full swing) We are now entering the Season of Beauty and Joy! The Tulips are already in full bloom !This is the season when Mother Nature looks her best , adorned like a new Bride !Love in in the Air ! If you are wondering how to spend those long evenings , here is a thought ! How about spending time reading the Srimad Bhagavat Gita chapter by chapter! Bhakti is like the Tulip ! You sow the seeds in one season to reap the benefits the next Season! May i pleaee recall verse 1 of chapter 16? 16. The Divine And Demoniac Natures TEXT 1-3 sri-bhagavan uvaca abhayam sattva-samsuddhir jnana-yoga-vyavasthitih danam damas ca yajnas ca svadhyayas tapa arjavam ahimsa satyam akrodhas tyagah santir apaisunam daya bhutesv aloluptvam mardavam hrir acapalam tejah ksama dhrtih saucam adroho nati-manita bhavanti sampadam daivim abhijatasya bharata The Blessed Lord said: Fearlessness, purification of one's existence, cultivation of spiritual knowledge, charity, self- control, performance of sacrifice, study of the Vedas, austerity and simplicity; nonviolence, truthfulness, freedom from anger; renunciation, tranquility, aversion to faultfinding, compassion and freedom from covetousness; gentleness, modesty and steady determination; vigor,* forgiveness*, fortitude, cleanliness, freedom from envy and the passion for honor--these transcendental qualities, O son of Bharata, belong to godly men endowed with divine nature. Today , it is my pleasure to take up the quality of 'Forgiveness' or Kshama ! In this context , i would like to narrate an incident from Mahabharata. It was a grim scene at the BATTLEFIELD in Kurukshetra. Draupadi had lost all her five (?) sons. She was grief stricken. At that time , the Pandavas brought before Draupadi the wounded body of 'Ashwatama', the only son of Dronacharya . Bheema asks Draupadi ' Beloved! Just say YES ! and i will shatter ASHWATAMA'S BODY into thousand pieces with my mighty Mace . Nakula and Sahadeva also plead with Draupadi ' dear one! please allow us to pierce Ashwatama's body with our Bow and Arrow . Draupadi listens to her husbands but wisdom prevails and she is overwhelmed by a sense of compassion. She looks at her husbands and says " True ! It was i who instigated you all to take up arms against the Kauravas to take revenge for the dishonor commited to me. i have already paid a heavy price for this . I have lost all my sons in the Battlefield , including my favorite Son , Abhimanyu. Ashwatama is the only son of Gautami , Dronacharya's wife . Dronacharya is also dead , i do not want Gautami to suffer a worse fate than this . i do not want Gautami to lose the support of her son also - she is already a widow. So saying . She asks the pandavas to spare the life of Ashwatama. When Sri Krishna heard this, he was thrilled and he exclaimed ' O! Draupadi!Your other name is Krishnaa ( sister of Lord Krishna - another name for Durga - Draupadi is a nincarnation of Durga) ! True to your name , you have shown extreme compassion and you have demonstrated 'forgiveness' - the great quality in a woman , more so in a Mother. " Yes! if you recall Lord Krishna also forgave the hunter who shot an arrow at his foot. Vasant Nvaratri is just round the corner. Let us resolve to practice all these Divine qualities one by one each nine days - on the Tenth day , let Sattwa prevail over tamas and Rajas! So, folks ! Remember ... " Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heal that has crushed it. --Mark Twain love and blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Pranams Thank you for that beautiful message. Forgiveness is one of the qualities we find hardest to develop. Most of the time we are unable to be forgive because we feel our hurt, our resentment, our anger, our hatred is justified. Justified by what? by the other person's actions. The trouble is this - the action " was " the " other's " and the negative feelings " is " " mine " - its my mind which is tied up in the threads of hurt, my heart which still smolder with the embers of a fire that should have been put out a long time ago. Forgiveness is about letting go. I recognize there is a poison in my heart. It needs to be purged. There is nothing I can do about the past. What I can do is make my present more fragrant so my future becomes more meaningful. And the smokescreen that is erected by my firm holding on to the past is never going to allow my present to manifest its fragrance. A firm and gentle goodbye to the past is what is in my own self-interest. Forgiveness is about understanding. Whatever any one does is because that particular individual at that point in time in those peculiar set of circumstances could have done that and that only. This is because whether we like it or not, there is a perfect Order that is set in place here, and everything that happens is ever in accordance with that Order alone. The other person's actions are no doubt heinous. But perhaps if i had the upbringing that he or she did, the temperament, the value structure, the social environment etc etc then my own actions may have been exactly the same. Forgiveness is about acceptance. The past is a ghost. It has no existence save our remnances. There is nothing about it i can change. What i can do is wish it goodbye and move on. The present is ever here, every moment, waiting for me. To embrace it, i need to accept the death of the past. There is ever a resistance towards forgetting the past. This resistance stifles my growth as an individual. Resisting this resistance only creates more resentment. Acceptance is the only antidote to the poison of resistance and forgiveness is the only key to acceptance. Forgiveness is about learning. We often mistake that by forgiving we will not learn from our mistakes. The truth is to the exact contrary. Forgiveness helps us be objective about the past. It removes our negatively distorted view about things. We see why things turned out the way they did and what we can do to prevent this from happening in the future to the extent possible. We have to learn to forgive and forgive to learn. Forgiveness is about being strong. In the words of Mahatma Gandhi " The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. " It takes courage to forgive. It takes a mature outlook that is not afraid to let go. Deep inside we are afraid to let go of the unpleasant - there is fear of this loss. Overcoming this fear takes courage and strength. From a vedantic perspective, the person who has caused you hurt has in a way done you a favor. He has helped you examine your own capacity to hate, to be angry, he has helped test your mettle, your capacity to act and not react, he has helped measure the depths of your forgiving spirit. After all only pain can help you guage your capacity to withstand pain. Moreover pain and hurt much more than pleasure is what motivates man to enquire, to reflect, to seek. On a final note, forgiveness applies most importantly to one-self. Self-forgiveness is an extremely important quality esp for a student of vedanta. As a severely limited ignorant entity, i am guilty of an infinite number of transgressions of omission and comission, many known and most unknown. There are so many things i knowingly did wrong, people I knowingly hurt, or perhaps did care enough about, or said the wrong things to, etc etc. Is it ever possible for me to settle accounts with each and every one of them? Most are no longer in my life, some may no longer be in this world. How am I do purge myself of this guilt? For the same negatives that we associate with hurt are exactly applicable to guilt. There is fortunately one way to settle the score. And that is Ishwara. Settle our accounts with Ishwara and in one sweep we settle our infinite debts. " O All-Knowing Lord, in my ignorance have i been guilty of multiple acts of omission and commission in body, speech and mind. O Ocean of compassion, forgive them " " karacharaNakRitaM vaakkaayajaM karmajaM vaa shravaNanayanajaM vaa maanasaM vaa.aparaadham; vihitamavihitaM vaa sarvametatkshmasva jaya jaya karuNaabdhe shrii mahaadeva shambho " This acknowledgement of our own incapacity slowly frees us from the sense of our " do-ership " . This in turn helps us accept the present with cheer and accept the future without pervasive anxiety. What we get and will receive will be nothing but His prasad, the very fruits of my own past deeds which are being bestowed on me by His Order and my only prayer to Him is strength, that i may accept them - with cheer. A cheerful accepting mind and disposition has been always considered a MUST for any student who wishes to proceed along the delicate path of self-enquiry. Thus is forgiveness one of the most treasured qualities that a sincere seeker of the truth would do well to nourish and nurture. Hari OM Shri Gurubhyo namah Shyam advaitin , " dhyanasaraswati " <dhyanasaraswati wrote: > > Dear All ! > Today , it is my pleasure to take up the quality of 'Forgiveness' or > Kshama ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Shri Gurubhyo Namah Shri Bhavanishankaraya Namah Dhyanasaraswati ji thanks for starting this discussion thread and Shyamji thank you for your wonderful explanation of this divine quality - kshama. Indeed, what a happy coincidence!! In Mumbai, Smt. Jaya Row is currently giving a discourse on Chapter XVI of the Bhagavad Gita - Divine and Demonic Qualities. While explaining the divine quality of " kshama " , Smt. Row mentioned that understanding and acceptance is at the heart of the quality of kshama - forgiveness. In this context, reference was made to verse 28 of Chapter III of the Bhagavad Gita where the Lord says - tattva-vit tu maha-baho guNa-karma-vibhagayoh guNa guNeshu vartanta iti matva na sajjate --- Verse 28, Chapter III Smt. Row highlighted " guNa guNeshu vartante " and said that whenever someone does or says anything that hurts you or angers you, to just remember this phrase and say to yourself, it is okay, whatever anyone does is because of their guNas, just accept it and do not get flustered. She continued - do not try to change others, change begins with ourselves. Interested Advaitins in Mumbai may wish to attend Smt Row's discourse at the Bhaidas Auditorium in Vile Parle between 6:30 and 8 PM; last discourse is on March 3. Pranams Mangesh shyam_md <shyam_md wrote: Pranams Thank you for that beautiful message. Forgiveness is one of the qualities we find hardest to develop. Most of the time we are unable to be forgive because we feel our hurt, our resentment, our anger, our hatred is justified. Justified by what? by the other person's actions. The trouble is this - the action " was " the " other's " and the negative feelings " is " " mine " - its my mind which is tied up in the threads of hurt, my heart which still smolder with the embers of a fire that should have been put out a long time ago. Forgiveness is about letting go. I recognize there is a poison in my heart. It needs to be purged. There is nothing I can do about the past. What I can do is make my present more fragrant so my future becomes more meaningful. And the smokescreen that is erected by my firm holding on to the past is never going to allow my present to manifest its fragrance. A firm and gentle goodbye to the past is what is in my own self-interest. Forgiveness is about understanding. Whatever any one does is because that particular individual at that point in time in those peculiar set of circumstances could have done that and that only. This is because whether we like it or not, there is a perfect Order that is set in place here, and everything that happens is ever in accordance with that Order alone. The other person's actions are no doubt heinous. But perhaps if i had the upbringing that he or she did, the temperament, the value structure, the social environment etc etc then my own actions may have been exactly the same. Forgiveness is about acceptance. The past is a ghost. It has no existence save our remnances. There is nothing about it i can change. What i can do is wish it goodbye and move on. The present is ever here, every moment, waiting for me. To embrace it, i need to accept the death of the past. There is ever a resistance towards forgetting the past. This resistance stifles my growth as an individual. Resisting this resistance only creates more resentment. Acceptance is the only antidote to the poison of resistance and forgiveness is the only key to acceptance. Forgiveness is about learning. We often mistake that by forgiving we will not learn from our mistakes. The truth is to the exact contrary. Forgiveness helps us be objective about the past. It removes our negatively distorted view about things. We see why things turned out the way they did and what we can do to prevent this from happening in the future to the extent possible. We have to learn to forgive and forgive to learn. Forgiveness is about being strong. In the words of Mahatma Gandhi " The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. " It takes courage to forgive. It takes a mature outlook that is not afraid to let go. Deep inside we are afraid to let go of the unpleasant - there is fear of this loss. Overcoming this fear takes courage and strength. From a vedantic perspective, the person who has caused you hurt has in a way done you a favor. He has helped you examine your own capacity to hate, to be angry, he has helped test your mettle, your capacity to act and not react, he has helped measure the depths of your forgiving spirit. After all only pain can help you guage your capacity to withstand pain. Moreover pain and hurt much more than pleasure is what motivates man to enquire, to reflect, to seek. On a final note, forgiveness applies most importantly to one-self. Self-forgiveness is an extremely important quality esp for a student of vedanta. As a severely limited ignorant entity, i am guilty of an infinite number of transgressions of omission and comission, many known and most unknown. There are so many things i knowingly did wrong, people I knowingly hurt, or perhaps did care enough about, or said the wrong things to, etc etc. Is it ever possible for me to settle accounts with each and every one of them? Most are no longer in my life, some may no longer be in this world. How am I do purge myself of this guilt? For the same negatives that we associate with hurt are exactly applicable to guilt. There is fortunately one way to settle the score. And that is Ishwara. Settle our accounts with Ishwara and in one sweep we settle our infinite debts. " O All-Knowing Lord, in my ignorance have i been guilty of multiple acts of omission and commission in body, speech and mind. O Ocean of compassion, forgive them " " karacharaNakRitaM vaakkaayajaM karmajaM vaa shravaNanayanajaM vaa maanasaM vaa.aparaadham; vihitamavihitaM vaa sarvametatkshmasva jaya jaya karuNaabdhe shrii mahaadeva shambho " This acknowledgement of our own incapacity slowly frees us from the sense of our " do-ership " . This in turn helps us accept the present with cheer and accept the future without pervasive anxiety. What we get and will receive will be nothing but His prasad, the very fruits of my own past deeds which are being bestowed on me by His Order and my only prayer to Him is strength, that i may accept them - with cheer. A cheerful accepting mind and disposition has been always considered a MUST for any student who wishes to proceed along the delicate path of self-enquiry. Thus is forgiveness one of the most treasured qualities that a sincere seeker of the truth would do well to nourish and nurture. Hari OM Shri Gurubhyo namah Shyam advaitin , " dhyanasaraswati " <dhyanasaraswati wrote: > > Dear All ! > Today , it is my pleasure to take up the quality of 'Forgiveness' or > Kshama ! Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Dear Shyam-Ji: Thank you for your insightful and beautiful messages. We all need to hear such words and reflect on them and assimilated these in our consciousness. I would be happy to add your post to my blog if you wish. The following two posts on luthar.com focus on Ahimsa for those interested. tag/ahimsa/page/5/ tag/ahimsa/page/3/ Namaste and love to all Harsha shyam_md wrote: > Forgiveness is one of the qualities we find hardest to develop. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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