Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 May i please share the following dialogue between Janaka, emperor of Videha and Sage Yajnavalkya from the Brihadaranyaka upanishads ? `Yajnavalkya, what serves as the light for a man ?' asks Emperor Janaka . `The light of the sun, O Emperor', said Yajnavalkya; `it is through the light of the sun that he sits, goes out, works and returns'. `It is just so, Yajnavalkya'. `When the sun has set, Yajnavalkya, what exactly serves as the light for a man ?' `The moon serves as his light. It is through the light of the moon that he sits, goes out, works and returns'. `It is just so, Yajnavalkya'. `When the sun and the moon have set, Yajnavalkya, what exactly serves as the light for a man ?' `The fire serves as his light. It is through the fire that he sits, goes out, works and returns'. `It is just so, Yajnavalkya'. When the sun and the moon have both set, and the fire has gone out, Yajnavalkya, what exactly serves as the light for a man ?' `Speech (sound) serves as his light. It is through the light of speech that he sits, goes out, works and returns. Therefore, O Emperor, even when one's own hand is not clearly visible, if a sound is uttered, one manages to go there.'. `It is just so, Yajnavalkya'. When the sun and the moon have both set, the fire has gone out, and speech has stopped, Yajnavalkya, what exactly serves as the light for a man ?' `The self serves as his light. It is through the light of the self that he sits, goes out, works and returns.' `It is just so, Yajnavalkya'. Consciousness is all there is! Prajnanam Brahma Consciousness is Brahman (Aitareya Upanishad 3.3, of Rg Veda) The most illuminating light of all is 'consciousness' Om Tat Sat ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 dhyanasaraswati <dhyanasaraswati wrote: Dear friend, If all there is, is consciousness only, why are we seeking, what are we seeking? Is our seeking by virtue of the fact that we confound consciousness also-the word also is a terminological inexactitude which we cannot help-as yet another object in the relative world? Is it that in our search for our consciousness, unconsciously, some motive to seek some thing else, behind the facade of consciousness, has surreptitiously insinuated itself into the core of our being? Is this identifiable with the adhyasa dilated upon by Sankara in the Vedanta sutras? with regards Sankarraman Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 advaitin , " dhyanasaraswati " <dhyanasaraswati wrote: > > May i please share the following dialogue between Janaka, emperor > of Videha and Sage Yajnavalkya from the Brihadaranyaka > upanishads ? > > Consciousness is all there is! > Prajnanam Brahma > Consciousness is Brahman (Aitareya Upanishad 3.3, of Rg Veda) > The most illuminating light of all is 'consciousness' > Om Tat Sat ! Thank you for sharing it. Is " consciousness is all there is! " MY experience? No! Wait. There goes the " MY " ness springing out of " ME " ! What to do? It is MY difficulty! If " consciousness is all there is " , who is telling it to whom? Is a wave telling another wave it is all only ocean? If so, by its very act of telling is it not affirming its individuality? Or is ocean telling a wave it is all ocean? If so, does a whole ever treat part of it as separate to bother even telling ? In this regard, I recall an utterance of Sri Ramana when some one asked him: " Bhagavan, please tell me if I can attain self-realization " . Ramana answered: " If I am not Bhagavan, I cannot tell you if you would attain self-realization. And if I am Bhagavan, then I cannot see you as separate from myself. Either way I cannot answer! " . (I am paraphrasing that out of memory and must have erred in losing precision, but hopefully not the point) ------------------------ Hari OM! -Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Srini writes : (If " consciousness is all there is " , who is telling it to whom? > Is a wave telling another wave it is all only ocean? If so, by > its very act of telling is it not affirming its individuality? > > Or is ocean telling a wave it is all ocean? If so, does a whole > ever treat part of it as separate to bother even telling ?) May i please respond by quoting this verse from Adi Shankara Bhagvadapada's Shatpadi Stotra ? Sathyapi bhedhapagame nadha thwaham na mamakeenasthwam, Saamudhro hi tharanga kwachana samudhro na tharanga Oh! Protector! Even with the difference (between You and me) passing off, I become Yours but You do not become mine. Indeed (though there is no difference between the waves and the ocean) the wave belongs to the ocean but nowhere (never) does the ocean belong to the wave. Yes! Srini! a 'little; individuality is sometimes needed ! otherwise who is to surrender to whom?you can wait for Anandaji's next post on 'ananda' which will be based on 'bhakti' - bhakti and jnana are two eyes of a sadhaka! " But they for whom I am the supreme goal, who do all work renouncing self for me and meditate on me with single-hearted devotion, these I will swiftly rescue from death's vast sea, for their CONSCIOUSNESS has entered into me. " - Srimad Bhagvat Gita! Sat Chit Ananda ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 advaitin , " dhyanasaraswati " <dhyanasaraswati wrote: > > > May i please respond by quoting this verse from Adi Shankara > Bhagvadapada's Shatpadi Stotra ? > > Sathyapi bhedhapagame nadha thwaham na mamakeenasthwam, > Saamudhro hi tharanga kwachana samudhro na tharanga Thank you for sharing it. Shankara's verses and even his name always conjures up an unparallel image of insight and inspiration! > Yes! Srini! a 'little; individuality is sometimes needed ! > otherwise who is to surrender to whom? Study of Science seems to leave some strong vasanas! How " little " is little and who/how to determine it? Hari OM! -Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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