Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 --- Ram Chandran <ramvchandran wrote: > > I expect Profvk and Sadaji to inject further > insights to this > important Statement from the Chandokya Upanishad in > support of > Sankara's Advaita Philosophy. Ram - you have provided an exhaustive definition for the famous mahavaakya. There is not much I can add other than go into more details. First Let me say that this is considered as instructive mahavaakya than declarative mahaavaakya. where the teacher Uddalaka instructs his disciple -son 'tat tvam asi' or you are that. This statement comes with an explanation and Uddlaka repeats this instruction 9 times taking each time a different example, at the request of his student. When the scripture itself repeats again and again, the importance of the statement is very obvious. Shankara therefore devotes a whole book 'vaakya vRitti' explaining this statement. Shree Sadananda yogiindra Saraswati gives an eloborate explanation in 'Vedantasaara' applying what is known in tarka shaastra - bhaaga tyaaga laxana or jahat ajahallaxana. A question is asked how can I be Him, I being limited by space-wise, time-wise and object-wise with limited knowledge, limited skills and limited powers and He being infinite in all respects, space wise, time wise, object wise, with infinite knowledge, unlimited skills and power - Therefore some aachaaryas have concluded that it can never be so and the statement should actually be not ‘tat tvam asi’ but 'atat tvam asi' - since sanskrit is amenable to such splitting too. Advaitin of course does not accept that since we do not need a scripture to tell us that 'I am not that' since that seems to be everybody's everyday’s experience in the world – that is the statement of ajnaani that one is not omnipresent, or omniscient. If Vedas are pramaNa for this, it has to tell me something that I cannot know by other means - that too no need to repeat 9 times. It has to repeat so many times only because, it is contrary to our normal experience. Hence it has to be understood properly. The classical example that is given to unravel this is 'saH ayam devadattaH' ' this is that devadatta' - if a statement like that is made, it is obvious that we are referring to only one devadatta. If we are introducing him for the first time we will just say 'this is devadatta'. But when we use two words, 'this and that' with equal emphasis (samaana adhikaraNa) and I am equating something that the listener is familiar. I should have been familiar with that devadatta that is being referred to some extent (although not in complete detail) and also seeing directly this devadatta that is being pointed out. That devadatta that I was familiar was quite a young boy that everybody used to admire and this devadatta that I am seeing now looks old and ugly person, and if the teacher says this is that devadatta - that instruction immediately has to give me instantaneous knowledge- how? I have to drop all the contradictory qualifications of this devadatta and that devadatta and equate only that which is essential quality (swaruupa laxana)to see the identity of the two in spite of the differences in the incidental attributes. This is called bhaaga tyaaga laxana that is discarding those incidental qualities that differ between this and that devadatta and equating only that swaruupa laxana (that which makes devadatta as devadatta and without which devadatta is no more devadatta) of both, to arrive at a unitary knowledge - this is that devadatta. Advaita does not say I am equal to God but what it says is that if we discard the superficial qualities of myself and the Lord and take only the essential qualities, then only tat tvam asi is valid. Since it is not easy to understand this equation, Uddalaka keeps repeating the teaching using several examples to drive the point. The swaruupa laxana of both I and the Lord is sat-chit-ananda, and from that point ‘tat tvam asi’ stands established. When that teaching sinks in the student then he can declare unequivocally that ' aham brahma asmi', I am Brahman. Then the teaching served its purpose and Vedas have done their job. Shree Ramanuja aachaarya emphasizes the antaryamin (indweller) concept in equating the ‘tvam’ with ‘tat’, as ‘tvam’ is only a part of the total tat as visheshaNa (quality). Interestingly he uses the samaanaadhikarana to dismiss the advaitic interpretation that involves bhaagatyaaga laxaNa to establish his interpretation. In the example he takes – the blue lotus – the blueness and the lotusness have samaanadhikaraNa since both are attributes that defines the object lotus in hand. But if one goes deeper analysis of the laxaNas, there are incidental and there are necessary qualifications and there is no samaanaadhikaraNa for both. For example the blueness is also necessary for the lotus to be blue it is not necessary for lotus to be a lotus. If the blue lotus looses it color by becoming yellow during drying process, Lotusness remains but blueness is gone. Hence the qualifications of blueness and lotusness do not have samaanadhikaraNatvam since one is incidental qualification while the other is swaruupa laxaNa. – essentially it means lotus cannot remain as lotus without lotusness (whatever that means) but it can remain as lotus with out being blue. This is exactly what advaita vedanta refers to in the bhaagatyaaga laxaNa – what is given up (bhaaga tyaaga) are incidental qualifications of devadatta and equating only the essential or swaruupa laxaNa as the basis in the statement ‘this is that devadatta’. All this of course is not necessary for definition – but now we are dealing with Mahaavaakya s– These great statements are not something to define but some to understand – not as a thought but as a fact. Hari Om! Sadananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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