RES: Having no teacher-Y atha Guru Tatha Sisya !

[Guest guest]

Thank you Srimaan Sunder-ji for posting that link to Swami

Paramarthanandaji's discourse on Guru Purnima- just a few posts ago ,

(post 36091) i had posted an excerpt from that wonderful

discourse ... Swami Paramarthanandaji is growing on me - now , i

regularly read his discourses on Gita on the web - not too long

ago , another respected member Smt. Lakshmiji advised me to read his

discourses ...specailly chapter 8 of the Srimad Bhagvad gita .

Incidentally, Lakshmiji is my upaguru !

 

This brings up an interesting question - of late , we are hearing

Dennisji talking about 'Shrotriya ( one well versed in vedas or

shrutis) and Rishiji talking about a guru being being a 'BRAHMA

NISHTA ' - DEAREST ADVAITINS, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR A GURU TO BE

BOTH A SHOTRIYA AND A BRAHMANISHTA ? WHAT AN INTERESTING THREAD THAT

WOULD BE ?

 

The preceptor, as Vivekananda said, is a gardener, who pulls the

weeds away, cultivates the soil, adds the fertilizer of his own

example and the water of his love. But the plant grows as a result

of its own innate force.

 

Hence the Indian saying: " Wonderful is the disciple and wonderful is

the teacher. "

 

Another Indian proverb proclaims that everyone gets the kind of guru

he deserves!

 

i would recommend all of you to read the following series of

articles on the Making of a Devotee

 

http://world.com/~elayj/Chapter1html

 

on another note , we also hear the words 'Parampara '

and 'Sampradaya ' floating around in this forum ...

 

May i recall the following verses from the Srimad Bhagvad Gita in

this context on Parampara ?

 

sri-bhagavan uvaca

imam vivasvate yogam

proktavan aham avyayam

vivasvan manave praha

manur iksvakave 'bravit ( chapter 4 , verse 1)

 

 

The Blessed Lord said: I instructed this imperishable science of

yoga to the sun-god, Vivasvan, and Vivasvan instructed it to Manu,

the father of mankind, and Manu in turn instructed it to Iksvaku.

 

evam parampara-praptam

imam rajarsayo viduh

sa kaleneha mahata

yogo nastah parantapa ( chapter 4 , verse 2)

 

This supreme science was thus received through the chain of

disciplic succession, and the saintly kings understood it in that

way. But in course of time the succession was broken, and therefore

the science as it is appears to be lost.

 

and finally , this verse:

 

sa evayam maya te 'dya

yogah proktah puratanah

bhakto 'si me sakha ceti

rahasyam hy etad uttamam ( chapter 4 . verse 3)

 

 

That very ancient science of the relationship with the Supreme is

today told by Me to you because you are My devotee as well as My

friend; therefore you can understand the transcendental mystery of

this science.

 

Durgaji 's wonderful post also brings into focus the 'adhikaratwam'

( the readiness) of the disciple ! Just as there are some

qualifications for a guru , there are also qualifications for a

student !

 

It would be a good idea for beginners to Advaita to familiarize

themselves with Adi shankara Bhagvadapada's TATTWA BODHA and Atma B

Bodha ! ! Don't jump into a study of Brahma sutras without

preparing yourself for you will lose yourself in the forest of

Brahma sutras ! !

 

 

HERE ARE THE LINKS

 

http://members.tripod.com/vedantamission/Pub/1Read/TBodha-1.htm

 

http://www.geocities.com/advaitavedant/atmabodha.htm

 

It may be a good idea to join a local satsangh of CHINMAYA

MISSION !

 

 

 

 

advaitin , " Sunder Hattangadi " <sunderh

wrote:

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> Namaste,

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> It is backwards!

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> These two articles will be helpful:

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> http://www.yogamalika.org/GuruPurnima1.html

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> http://www.dlshq.org/teachings/sishya.htm

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

>

[Guest guest]

The correct url for Making of a Devotee is

 

http://theworld.com/~elayj

 

enjoy!

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin , " dhyanasaraswati "

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