Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Sorry, but in the way you speak I feel a kind of irony, is it so? If so, I would like to ask the list members if irony suits with this most respectable list subject. If it is irony, it is highly upsetting to me, what about the other members? I believe we have many ways to discuss things, without the need to use irony. Thank you all Cecilia -----Mensagem original----- De: advaitin [advaitin ]Em nome de dhyanasaraswati Enviada em: segunda-feira, 2 de julho de 2007 18:08 Para: advaitin Assunto: Re: Weekly Definitions - Karma Is It a coincidence or what ? Our beloved Sunderji has the fortune of defining three most popular terms in Hinduism - Dharma , Moksha and now Karma . Yes - he is most qualified to do so - Yes! Righteous ( dharmic) ,Selfless ( not attached to the fruits of his actions) and certainly , Liberated ( moksha) in more than one sense of the word ... our moderator Sunderji ! Sunderji , in your entire post ,i am delighted to point out that you quoted my most favorite verse from Srimad Bhagavad Gita ... In Gita, 5:8-9, are described other actions ( " seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, eating, going, sleeping, breathing, speaking, letting go, seizing, opening and closing the eyes " ,) which are expressed by a truth-knower as " I do nothing at all, the senses move among the sense-objects. Yes! pl read the Sanskrit slokas - how beautiful it sounds ! naiva kincit karomiti yukto manyeta tattva-vit pasyan srnvan sprsan jighrann asnan gacchan svapan svasan (verse 8, chapter 5) pralapan visrjan grhnann unmisan nimisann api indriyanindriyarthesu vartanta iti dharayan ( verse 9, chapter 5) Wow! abandon all sense of doership - very advaitic , is not it ? In fact , our beloved Ramana bhagwan goes one step further and says " Sri Ramana Maharshi accepted the validity of the laws of Karma but said that they were only applicable as long as a person imagined that he was *separate from the Self.* At this level (the level of the ajnani or the ignorant), he said that individuals will pass through a series of pre-ordained activities and experiences, all of which are the consequences of previous acts and thoughts. He occasionally even said that every act and experience in a person's life is determined at birth and that the only freedom one has is to realise that there is no one acting and no one experiencing. However, once one realises the Self there is no one left to experience the consequences of actions and so the whole structure of Karmic laws then becomes redundant. " To read Bhagwan's views on all types of Karma ( prarabhda , sanchita , agaami karma etc) go to http:://www.hinduism.co.za/karma & .htm on this note , i would like to take leave of you all for a long , long 'indepencence' day weekend - i will be attending a four day wedding celebration in Dallas Texas - my nephew decided to lose his independence 'after being the most eliogible bachelor for thirty long years! Well, my most favorite quote on Karma yoga is from our beloved Father of the nation , Mahatma Gandhiji " The biggest of karmayogis never gives up devotional songs or worship. " love and regards with love to all In advaitin , " Sunder Hattangadi " <sunderh wrote: > > Weekly Definitions – Karma July 1, 2007 > > Perhaps no word captures the mystery of human existence as > suggestively as the word Karma. It is a word that evokes such a host > of associated ideas – ethical-moral, psychological, metaphysical, and > mystical - that one can easily lose one's bearings in trying to > understand it. ---------- -- Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra. Scan engine: McAfee VirusScan / Atualizado em 02/07/2007 / Versão: 5.1.00/5065 Proteja o seu e-mail Terra: http://mail.terra.com.br/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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