Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Namaste, If we give any validity to 'creation' at all then it can only be prana and karma, that is what people call 'God'. Here is a quote from Ramana Maharshi. At the highest level of his teachings the term `God' and `Self' are synonyms for the immanent reality which is discovered by Self- realisation. Thus realisation of the Self is realisation of God; it is not an experience of God, rather it is an understanding that one is God. Speaking from this ultimate level, Sri Ramana's statements on God can be summarised in the following way: God is immanent and formless; God is pure being and pure consciousness. Manifestation appears in God and through God's power, but God is not its creator. God never acts, God just is. God has neither will nor desire. Individuality is the illusion that we are not identical with God; when the illusion is dispelled, what remains is God. On a lower level Sri Ramana Maharshi spoke about Iswara, the Hindu name for the supreme personal God. He said that Iswara exists as a real entity only so long as one imagines that one is an individual person. When individuality persists there is a God who survives the activities of the universe; in the absence of individuality Iswara is non-existent....Hu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 advaitin , " hupa_ramdas " <hupa_ram> wrote: > > Namaste, > > If we give any validity to 'creation' at all then it can only be > prana and karma, that is what people call 'God'. > > Here is a quote from Ramana Maharshi. > > > At the highest level of his teachings the term `God' and `Self' are > synonyms for the immanent reality which is discovered by Self- > realisation. Thus realisation of the Self is realisation of God; it > is not an experience of God, rather it is an understanding that one > is God. Speaking from this ultimate level, Sri Ramana's statements on > God can be summarised in the following way: > > God is immanent and formless; God is pure being and pure > consciousness. > Manifestation appears in God and through God's power, but God is not > its creator. God never acts, God just is. God has neither will nor > desire. > Individuality is the illusion that we are not identical with God; > when the illusion is dispelled, what remains is God. > On a lower level Sri Ramana Maharshi spoke about Iswara, the Hindu > name for the supreme personal God. He said that Iswara exists as a > real entity only so long as one imagines that one is an individual > person. When individuality persists there is a God who survives the > activities of the universe; in the absence of individuality Iswara is > non-existent....Hu Namaste, thank you for your message... reading this interesting quote from Ramana Maharshi.... the answer to your question " Does the 'Self' control or do anything? " could be: the Self is related to the appearing doer.... (like you are related to your dreams during sleep) but the Self itself....is doing nothing (not the doer), for real Awareness of Self (which is Itself, the Self) is necessary to have an appearent control of whatever is happening.... few words and thoughts about the subject.... Kind Regards, Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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