Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Friends: In the current article on , Shyam-Ji answers a question on the Vegetarian Lifestyle in the West for young people. Thanks, Namaste and love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 > In the current article on , Shyam-Ji answers a question on > the Vegetarian Lifestyle in the West for young people. sir, the Vegitatian Life style is not only good for people in west but all over the world. in india the veg food life style was adopted by various communities as it is best for a satvic way of life. even in the veg food people avoided things like onion and garlic which induces ones senses.even coffee and tea were avoided.even the medical faternity has rec that eating veg food human beings live long. the main aim of life is to realise the god. for this you need a steady mind and healthy body. the satvic food helps in achieving this goal. regards cdr bvn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Namaste: On the top of what Dr. Shym has stated in the article. One need to remain objective when it comes to any health issue. Most of the vegetarians are deficient if Vitamin B-12. Meat is probably the best source for it. Deficiency of B-12 if not detected in time can lead to anemia because B-12 plays a critical role in the formation of Red Blood Cells. Personally I use to be a very strict vegetarian but since coming to US in 1975 I became aware of B12 deficiency and decided to be start eating 1-2 eggs every week and since then my B12 levels have remained in the normal range. Shrisuukta states : pashunaamaruupamanyasya mayi shriiH shrayataa.m yashasH Meaning - shrii (laxmi) comes in the form of animals. If one is a Non-vegetarian then they have a Burger or one can enjoy the non-destructive products, such as, eggs (an excellent source of B12) and Milk. On the lighter side - I say a blessing for the chicken: aNDadaataa sukhii bhaha Meaning - May the chicken lave a long life. Another deficiency one need to be aware of is L-Carnatine. This acts is known as a Carnitine shuttle that brings fat to the surface of the cells for beta-oxidation. If this does not occur then one's often finds elevated levels of Triglycerides. Harsha-Ji: Thank you for sharing the article. Best regards, Dr. Yadu advaitin , Harsha wrote: > > Dear Friends: > > In the current article on , Shyam-Ji answers a question on > the Vegetarian Lifestyle in the West for young people. > > > > Thanks, > > Namaste and love to all > Harsha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Dr. Yadu, Thank you for sharing that about vitamin B12. My understanding is that vegetarianism falls in three categories 1.Vegan 2. Lacto-Vegetarian (includes milk) 3. Lacto-ovo Vegetarian (includes milk and eggs) Comments/Articles from the learned members on the nutritional aspects of vegetarianism are most welcome. I studied with a yogi briefly who emphasized raw foods especially raw sprouts (of various beans (garbanzo, blackeyed peas, etc). There have also been yogis who were fruitarian and seemed to live a long life without evidently the benefit of vitamin B12. However, many Hindu yogis do eat eggs (Swami Yogananda and his Guru) and some even eat meat. Harsha ymoharir wrote: > Namaste: > > On the top of what Dr. Shym has stated in the article. One need to > remain objective when it comes to any health issue. > > Most of the vegetarians are deficient if Vitamin B-12. Meat is > probably the best source for it. Deficiency of B-12 if not detected in > time can lead to anemia because B-12 plays a critical role in the > formation of Red Blood Cells. > > Personally I use to be a very strict vegetarian but since coming to US > in 1975 I became aware of B12 deficiency and decided to be start eating > 1-2 eggs every week and since then my B12 levels have remained in the > normal range. > > Shrisuukta states : pashunaamaruupamanyasya mayi shriiH shrayataa.m > yashasH > > Meaning - shrii (laxmi) comes in the form of animals. > > If one is a Non-vegetarian then they have a Burger or one can enjoy the > non-destructive products, such as, eggs (an excellent source of B12) > and Milk. > > On the lighter side - I say a blessing for the chicken: > > aNDadaataa sukhii bhaha > > Meaning - May the chicken lave a long life. > > Another deficiency one need to be aware of is L-Carnatine. This acts > is known as a Carnitine shuttle that brings fat to the surface of the > cells for beta-oxidation. If this does not occur then one's often > finds elevated levels of Triglycerides. > > Harsha-Ji: > > Thank you for sharing the article. > > Best regards, > > Dr. Yadu > > > advaitin , Harsha wrote: > >> Dear Friends: >> >> In the current article on , Shyam-Ji answers a question >> > on > >> the Vegetarian Lifestyle in the West for young people. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Namaste and love to all >> Harsha >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Namaste dear Yaduji: First let me admit that to understand the issues with respect to Vegetarian diet, it is inevitable that we are forced to move away from Vedanta. On the other hand, it is important that the discussion will help us to remove our ignorance on the health related issues associated with the food that we choose to eat. I agree that we should be objective while understanding Vegetarian Life Style, but more importantly we should gather all necessary information before making any conclusion. I work for USDA and my current job focuses on the importance and relevance of 'nutrients' (vitamins, protein, minerals, etc.) in children's daily food intake. My research currently focuses on the problems of obesity (overweight) in the young children. Recently, USDA has introduced several new programs to encourage children to eat vegetables and fruits. A number research studies on obesity clearly points out those who eat more vegetables, fruits and whole-grains will be less likely to be obese! Scientifically many studies have concluded that a balanced vegetarian diet will fully meet our daily nutritional requirements. USDA has recently come up with a Vegetarian Pyramid Scheme providing details of a healthy daily diet. Here is a quick reference list of Websites with information on this subject matter. http://www.vegsource.com/nutrition/pyramid.htm http://www.vegsource.com/nutrition/pyramid_vegan.htm http://www.utexas.edu/courses/ntr311/nutinfo/pyramid/vfp.html http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Jan98/vegetarian.pyramid.ssl.html http://www.ext.colostate.edu/PUBS/FOODNUT/09324.html I also suggest the interested members to visit the USDA site and the Institute of Medicine site: http://www.fns.usda.gov/fns/default.htm http://www.iom.edu/ To be objective, we should ask the fundamental question – where did the animals get the nutrients which are found in their body? Is it not true that the vegetarian cattle and the vegetarian elephant have no serious nutritional deficiencies? Interestingly, the cows which were fed with feed that contained meat had some serious health problems. Consequently, the meat from those unhealthy cows created serious health problems to humans who consumed those contaminated meat products. These are facts which have been observed very recently in Europe, Canada and several other parts of the world! Everything that we do in this world has pros and cons and decisions and conclusions do vary by person. With the information revolution and with the spread of improved communication across the world, we are becoming more knowledgeable everyday. There are no clear answers for any health related questions with respect to any food that we eat. With my warmest regards, Ram Chandran advaitin , " ymoharir " <ymoharir wrote: > > Namaste: > > On the top of what Dr. Shym has stated in the article. One need to > remain objective when it comes to any health issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Pranams Shri Yadu-ji and Shri Ram-ji I thank Ram-ji for the scholarly report and the references. As a physician I can assure everyone that a vegetarian diet by no stretch of the imagination renders anyone deficient in any micronutrient, mineral, or vitamin. As far as B12 goes, milk is a rich source of Vit B12 and while strictly classified as an " animal " protein can certainly not be classified as non-vegetarian. In any case I think this topic is off-limits as far as this satsang group about vedanta is concerned, and as I, in my original write-up, had indicated Vedanta goes beyond simply the gross properties of food and talks about the subtle aspects of our food and its effects on our subtle body or sookshma sharira as well as on our gunas. Again, this is not a criticism of anyone's choice of food, just a simple representation of the facts about the wholesome nature of a purely vegetarian diet. Hari OM Shyam Ram Chandran <ramvchandran wrote: Namaste dear Yaduji: Scientifically many studies have concluded that a balanced vegetarian diet will fully meet our daily nutritional requirements. USDA has recently come up with a Vegetarian Pyramid Scheme providing details of a healthy daily diet. Here is a quick reference list of Websites with information on this subject matter. http://www.vegsource.com/nutrition/pyramid.htm http://www.vegsource.com/nutrition/pyramid_vegan.htm http://www.utexas.edu/courses/ntr311/nutinfo/pyramid/vfp.html http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Jan98/vegetarian.pyramid.ssl.html http://www.ext.colostate.edu/PUBS/FOODNUT/09324.html advaitin , " ymoharir " <ymoharir wrote: > > Namaste: > > On the top of what Dr. Shym has stated in the article. One need to > remain objective when it comes to any health issue. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Ram-Ji: Thank you for your excellent post and the list of sources on veg nutrition. It is very helpful. I will be writing more about food in future posts on my blog site. Our sages have said that of all the rules and regulations pertaining to spiritual life the one concerning food is the most important (from a practical view point). Food impacts the body and has a role in making the mind subtle to grasp the higher truths. Thank you to all the learned members for showering us with the blessings of their knowledge so freely. Namaste and love to all Harsha Ram Chandran wrote: > Namaste dear Yaduji: > > First let me admit that to understand the issues with respect to > Vegetarian diet, it is inevitable that we are forced to move away > from Vedanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Would all members please note that this topic clearly falls outside the scope of this discussion group, as per the distributed guidelines. It is not reasonable to permit one topic that falls outside and disallow another. Only if *all* such topics are disallowed will it be possible to moderate the group fairly. Accordingly, I must request that discussion of this subject continue outside of the group. Chief moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Good point Vaidyanathan-Ji. Some yogis feel that uncooked food is more sattvic than cooked food. I think in Bhagavad Gita, it is stated that food should be eaten within three hours of preparation for optimal benefit. Harsh cdr b vaidyanathan wrote: sir, the Vegitatian Life style is not only good for people in west but all over the world. in india the veg food life style was adopted by various communities as it is best for a satvic way of life. even in the veg food people avoided things like onion and garlic which induces ones senses.even coffee and tea were avoided.even the medical faternity has rec that eating veg food human beings live long. the main aim of life is to realise the god. for this you need a steady mind and healthy body. the satvic food helps in achieving this goal. regards cdr bvn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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