Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Namaste Shri Richard, In message #36690 of Jul 28, you say: " By the way, I am not challenging the truth of advaita and am on board with the teaching. What I'm asking is what logical reason is there to believe the teachings of advaita? " I would put it to you that there are two kinds of logical reasoning. One kind of reasoning is outward and worldly. It seeks to justify our minds' beliefs, as these conceiving minds build up their differentiated pictures of a changing world. The other kind of reasoning is reflective and spiritual. It questions back from all our mind-constructed pictures and beliefs -- in search of a knowledge that is plainly and simply true, quite independent of all doubtful picturing in which our minds may or may not believe. In Advaita teaching, what use is made of these two kinds of reasoning? Clearly, the teaching is meant to turn away from outward to reflective reasoning. It's meant for an uncompromising questioning that challenges all mind's belief in any conceived ideas or arguments. That reflective questioning essentially destroys belief, instead of justifying it. Accordingly, where someone asks for a logical reason to believe Advaita teachings, this question is illogical. It asks for a reason to believe in teachings which are meant to show that all such belief is unjustified. But then, it may well be asked how anyone may learn from Advaita teaching. Or, to put the question more precisely: On what basis can anyone proceed with a teaching that no mind can rightly believe? One answer to this question is given by the English word 'faith' or the Sanskrit word 'shraddha'. These words imply a depth of belief which is beneath all mental picturing. It's only the pictures that may or may not be believed, by this same doubtful mind which has here dubiously constructed these imagined pictures. Belief and doubt are thus activities of mind. They are changing activities through which the mind functions, in its imagined picturing. But all belief and doubt imply a discernment of truth and falsity. And that discernment in turn implies a continued knowledge, which carries on beneath the changing pictures in our minds. An underlying knowing must stay present in the mind, as changing pictures come and go. That continued knowing is the changeless background of all pictured change. It is present in each picture that appears, no matter whether this picture is believed or doubted by the mind. Without that knowing background, no picture could appear. Nor could any picture disappear. That background does not act at all. It only knows, unchangingly, as all mind's changing acts depend on it. Upon that changeless knowing, mind always depends, in order to distinguish what is true from what is false in the apparent picturing. All minds beliefs and disbeliefs implicitly depend upon an essential faith in that background knowing. That faith is essentially implied, in all our mental functioning -- through all our changes of belief and doubt, concerning what the pictures show. That faith is found beneath all change and difference, at the unchanging background, at one with the true knowing which stays always present there. Advaita teaching is expressed from there, and must reflect back there, through questioning all mind-conceived beliefs. The questions must turn back upon the questioner's own false beliefs, on the basis of an underlying faith in true knowing at the inmost background. Ananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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