Guest guest Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Hare Krishna,namakarams In message 1745, shri.Ram Chandran replies to " a c " <ac who asks If Brahman is alone real then from where does Maya/Mahamahat originate?.If Maya either comes from somewhere or something other than Brahman or if Maya actually *is* something different than Brahman then we have duality (ie. Brahman AND Maya). I found the reply by Shri Ram Chandran interesting and relevant to the ongoing discussion of maya and duality. It is sometimes worth fishing in the sea of advaitin messages. He writes:- " You have raised some interesting and fundamental questions on the logic of Advaita Vedanta.First, Brahman is beyond all logic and Advaita Vedanta fully recognizes that the Vedanta philosophy is also a part of the illusory world. Since Brahman is beyond logic one has to be a Brahman to understand when/why does Maya originate. Consequently neither I can explain nor you can understand and this debate will continue until you and I become the unified Brahman! Let me quote the following from Shri Parthasarathi's book: Vedanta treatise The philosophy of Vedanta is also said to be like a dream lion. Imagine a lion appears in a dream. The lion-in-the-dream is part of the dream world experienced by the dreamer. But the lion-in-the-dream has one peculiarity. One distinctive character which none of the other objects of the dream possess. And that is its capacity to catapult the dreamer from the dreaming state of consciousness to the waking state of consciousness. When the lion appears in the dream, the dreamer eperiences a kind of nightmare. He is startled. He is horrified. The lion wakes him up as it were. The dream lion is no doubt a part of the dream but it swallows up the entire dream. In doing so dream lion also vanishes! That is the characteristics of the dream lion. Similarly Vedanta plays the role of the dream lion in this world. Vedantic knowledge is admittedly a part of this illusory world. But then it dissolves the entire illusion of the world. Reveals Reality. It unveils your real SELF. It transports you from the plane of world-consciousness to the plane of God-consciousness. " As long as we are in the plane of world-consciousness, duality appears real and duality dissolves itself (like the lion-in-the-dream) when we wake up and attain the plane of God-Consciousness. Non-duality applies only at the Paramarthika (Absolute Truth). Truth according to Advaita metaphysics is of three types: pratibhasika (apparant), vyavaharika (practical) and paramarthika (the highest level). When we wrongly perceive the upright ears of a hare as its horns, it is 'pratibhasika' satta. This world of senses is vyavaharika satta since it is real for all practical purposes. Brahman or God which is the highest and unchanging truth is 'paramathika' satta.Let me stop here. Let us all contemplate instead of conducting academic exercises! he ends. I request that along with this members read messages 1747 by shri sadanada and 1749 by <ac@>. May lord Krishna bless us all. baskaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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