Two Slokas from sanatsujAtIyam

[Guest guest]

I am giving below two interesting Slokas from sanatsujAtIyam (in

mahAbhAratam), chapter 2. The beauty of the Slokas is in the alliteration.

The word 'vedam' has been used in the unusual sense of 'brahman'. The word

'vedyam' means 'what is knowable' and so it denotes the whole world of

objects. The translation given below is based on the bhAshya of Sri Sankara.

 

na vedAnAm veditA kaScidasti

 

vedena vedam na vidur na vedyam |

 

yo veda vedam sa ca veda vedyam

 

yo veda vedyam na sa veda satyam ||42

 

42.The vedas cannot know brahman, since brahman, being pure consciousness,

is not an object of knowledge. vedas are insentient and so neither brahman

nor the world can be known through them. He who knows brahman knows the

entire universe of objects, since, by knowing brahman everything is known.

But he who knows only the universe of objects does not know brahman.

 

yo veda vedAn sa ca veda vedyam

 

na tam vidur vedavido na vedAh |

 

tathApi vedena vidanti vedam

 

ye brAhmaNA vedavido bhavanti ||43

 

43. He who knows the vedas knows only the universe of objects. Neither the

vedas nor the knower of the vedas can know brahman, since brahman cannot be

objectified. All the same, brAhmaNas (enlightened persons) who know how to

understand the purport of the vedas know brahman through the vedas.

 

S.N.Sastri

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

--- " S.N. Sastri " <sn.sastri wrote:

 

> 42.The vedas cannot know brahman, since brahman,

> being pure consciousness,

> is not an object of knowledge. vedas are insentient

> and so neither brahman

> nor the world can be known through them. He who

> knows brahman knows the

> entire universe of objects, since, by knowing

> brahman everything is known.

> But he who knows only the universe of objects does

> not know brahman.

>

> 43. He who knows the vedas knows only the universe

> of objects. Neither the

> vedas nor the knower of the vedas can know brahman,

> since brahman cannot be

> objectified. All the same, brAhmaNas (enlightened

> persons) who know how to

> understand the purport of the vedas know brahman

> through the vedas.

>

> S.N.Sastri

 

Shastri gaaru - wonderful and thanks for the two

beautiful slokas. I have to learn the slokas to

remind me what is to be known that cannot be known!

 

With PraNAms

Sadananda

[Guest guest]

>

> Shastri gaaru - wonderful and thanks for the two

> beautiful slokas. I have to learn the slokas to

> remind me what is to be known that cannot be known!

>

> With PraNAms

> Sadananda

>

 

Namaste,

 

While joining Sada-ji and congratulating Sastri-ji for recalling us

the two beautiful shlokas from Sanatsujatiyam (along with its

Shankara bhashya, a favourite text of mine), may I draw the

attention of the readers to

http://www.geocities.com/profvk/VK2/2601.html

 

with the title: Four Gems from Sanatsujata on Vedas and Knowledge?

 

PraNAms to all advaitins.

PraNAms to Sanatsujatha Maharishi.

profvk

[Guest guest]

Shastriji :

 

Thank you so much for sharing the two beautiful slokas from

SanatsjAtlyam with this group of seekers of Truth.

 

Of the two , the second verse appeals to me more !

specially the following words :

 

( All the same, brAhmaNas (enlightened persons) who know how to

understand the purport of the vedas know brahman through the

vedas.)

 

Very TRUE , is not it ?

 

The Mundaka Upanishad also says,

 

" For the sake of the knowledge of that (which is not made) one

should approach with Samit(fuel) in his hand, a preceptor who is

well-versed in scriptures and also established in Brahman "

 

( first mundaka , second khans , verse 12)

 

So, we need a guru who is a shotriya as well as brahma nishta.

 

Otherwise , we will only be debating what the three states are(

using all the sharira and the koshas ) and will always be

in 'awastai' ( difficult situation ) not knowing 'turiya' is not a

state but Statelessness.

 

Aum Shanti! Shanti! shantihi!

[Guest guest]

Namaskaram Shastriji,

 

Could you please recommend a book that gives the translation of the

Sanatsujatiyam in English. Chowkamba has one in Hindi.

 

Sw. Dayanandaji' talks are available on MP3.

 

With pranams

Lakshmi Muthuswamy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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