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Sir(s)

I have followed the messages on this great group for over a year now

and have learnt a lot.

 

I would like to attend formal instruction in Vedanta and I seek the

groups guidence on that. There is a Chinmaya mission located in my

town which I have attended a couple of times. However on doing

research on the Internet, I find that it is affliated to the VHP -

which, I understand, propagates a fundamentalist version of Hinduism.

Please guide me in this respect.

 

Thank You.

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You need not worry about any connection with VHP. The Brahmacharis and

Swamijis in Chinmaya Mission are well-trained people and you can be sure of

getting the correct instruction on Vedanta from them.

S.N.Sastri

 

 

On 9/20/07, idealistkumar <idealistkumar wrote:

>

> Sir(s)

> I have followed the messages on this great group for over a year now

> and have learnt a lot.

>

> I would like to attend formal instruction in Vedanta and I seek the

> groups guidence on that. There is a Chinmaya mission located in my

> town which I have attended a couple of times. However on doing

> research on the Internet, I find that it is affliated to the VHP -

> which, I understand, propagates a fundamentalist version of Hinduism.

> Please guide me in this respect.

>

> Thank You.

>

>

>

 

 

 

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namaskaram

 

when we learn Vedanta, we open our mind to a process of learning to look at

life. This is purely removing the ignorance. Neither VHP nor any other so

called Hindu parties know much about Vedanta. And my friend, you are the one to

learn, think and act....so why worry? learning always help to think..

enjoy

 

 

 

" S.N. Sastri " <sn.sastri wrote: You

need not worry about any connection with VHP. The Brahmacharis and

Swamijis in Chinmaya Mission are well-trained people and you can be sure of

getting the correct instruction on Vedanta from them.

S.N.Sastri

 

On 9/20/07, idealistkumar <idealistkumar wrote:

>

> Sir(s)

> I have followed the messages on this great group for over a year now

> and have learnt a lot.

>

> I would like to attend formal instruction in Vedanta and I seek the

> groups guidence on that. There is a Chinmaya mission located in my

> town which I have attended a couple of times. However on doing

> research on the Internet, I find that it is affliated to the VHP -

> which, I understand, propagates a fundamentalist version of Hinduism.

> Please guide me in this respect.

>

> Thank You.

>

>

>

 

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advaitin , " idealistkumar " <idealistkumar wrote:

>

> Sir(s)

> I have followed the messages on this great group for over a year now

> and have learnt a lot.

>

> I would like to attend formal instruction in Vedanta and I seek the

> groups guidence on that. There is a Chinmaya mission located in my

> town which I have attended a couple of times. However on doing

> research on the Internet, I find that it is affliated to the VHP -

> which, I understand, propagates a fundamentalist version of Hinduism.

> Please guide me in this respect.

>

> Thank You.

>

 

 

Namaskarams,

 

There are issues and ways of dealing with them. It is the latter that may

indicate

fundamentalism, etc. That Chinmaya mission is affiliated with VHP indicates that

there are

issues like deceitful conversion, etc. that are considered problems by a good

percentage of

Hindus. Either politics through community or politics through personality: that

is part of

vyavahaarika and organization.

 

Gandhiji was also a nationalist, etc in British eyes.

 

thollmelukaalkizhu

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Putranm writes :

 

( Gandhiji was also a nationalist, etc in British eyes.)

 

Welcome back, my friend, Tholmelu kaal kizhu!

 

Times were different . We were in a different era, different

mindset - under the grip of a Colonial rule . Gandhiji himself

said " " Most religious men I've met are politicians in disguise, I

however wear the guise of a politician but am at heart a religious

man. " ! What a powerful statement !

 

Yes, the Mahatma practiced 'Satyam and Ahimsa ' ( Truth and non-

violence) while dealing even with political issues - He never ever

wavered from these two higher principles - For Gandhiji 'Truth was

God' and 'God was truth' In fact , the Mahtma never indulged

in 'dirty' poltics .

 

In fact , Gandhiji used religion more as a spiritual discipline (

fasting , Taking a vow of silence etc etc ) while dealing with the

dirty poltical problems of his Day! He was so upright and honest

that even his own countryman Nathuram Godse assasinated Gandhiji

saying ' Gandhiji was unfavorably favorable to the muslims " ....

But that was Gandhiji , a true advaitin who practiced

absolute 'oneness' ! He never believed in distictions of caste ,

creed, gender etc .... Gandhiji never exploited Religion to further

his own personal ends . He was not into power politics.

 

But today , we are living under different circumstances. Every

politician is out there for his own personal gain - in fact , they

are so unscrupulous they use big religious instititions to further

their own interests. " Secularism' has become a neat poltical

gimmick to get more votes . So sad but true!

 

To be quite honest with you , i withdrew myself from many egrouops

for this very reason because there was either lot of muslim bashing

going on or anti hindu / anti christian propaganda .

 

When Kurukshetra war was being faught , we were fighting a battle

of 'dharma' but now in india of today , WARS ARE BEING FOUGHT ON

THE STREETS OF MAJOR CITIES to uphold 'adharma' ....

 

Gandhiji was a karma yogi and bhakti yogi par excellance . His

famous words were " I would dance with joy if I had to give up

politics. "

 

My friend , We need to be cautious which religious organization we

want to be part of and therefore we should check out thoroughly

before joining any of these organizations! i got 'burned' when i

joined ISKCON several yeas ago. a GURU for who i did 'paduka puja '

for years was found guilty of murder etc etc .... That was first

dose of 'reality' ...... in spiritual matters!

 

i myself like to read books and listen to tapes/cds etc etc rather

than be directly involved with any institution. After all, Swamijis

reside in their 'spiritual discourses' not in their ochre robes!

 

Tagore said

 

" " The soil, in return for her service, keeps the tree tied to her;

the sky asks nothing and leaves it free. " I always keep this in

mind while appraching any spiritual master!

 

Thanks!

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Namaste Sri Kumar:

 

Honestly speaking, I don't believe that Chinmaya Mission (CM) is

affiliated with Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP). To some extent, CM is

sympathetic and supportive for specific activities carried out by VHP.

One of the reasons for its support is due to the fact that Swami

Chinmayananda was instrumental in the original formation of VHP.

Swamiji had the vision to propogate and promote the Hindu Ideals, the

rich Heritage and ethical values to the people of India including those

Hindus who live outside India. With that vision, he mobilized several

like minded idealistic leaders to formulate VHP during 1964. As for as

I know that Swamiji didn't believe in mixing spirituality with politics

and he made sure that the activities of Chinmaya Mission were not

influenced by politics. The acharyas in all CM centers are well trained

on Vedic and Vedantic literature with sufficient background in

Sanskrit. The acharyas have pledged to dedicate their entire life to

serve the community by conducting classes and discourses for both

adults and children. There are thousands of CM centers established all

over the world and they have been serving the universal community.

 

Please go ahead and attend the Vedantic classes and discourses at the

CM center in your town for few months and then decide whether you find

them useful. If you have time and ideas then contribute them through

voluntary service.

 

With my warmest regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

Note: Here are some background information on VHP. I request members

not to initiate any discussion on VHP which is beyond the scope of this

list.

 

VHP Origin, Purpose and Activities:

V.H.P. was founded in India on August 28, 1964 on Krishna Janmasthami

day at Sandipini Ashram Mumbai by Swami Chinmayanandji, Swami

Satyamitranandji, Sri K.M. Munshi, Master Tarasingh, Sir C.P. Ramaswami

Ayer, Hanuman Prasad Poddar, Jain Muni Sushil Kumarji, Dalai Lama and

Guruji Gowalkar and with the blessings of all Shankaracharyas and many

other saints.

 

VHP started with the conviction that a Hindu as one who follows any set

of worship originated in India, though residing anywhere in the world

but proud of the rich heritage, culture and tradition of Sanatanadharma.

The primary goal of VHP was to develop a unified Hindu Society by

eradicating the disruptive tendencies arising from diversities of sect,

languages, faith, caste and creed. VHP had the secondary goal to

promote unity, harmony and mutual respect between the followers of

various sects of worship within India. VHP's original intent was to

arouse consciousness to inculcate a sense of self pride, service to

humanity and solidarity among Hindus. VHP being a representative world

body of Hindus proclaimed to serve the Humanity without getting

entangled in politics.

 

Institutions with noble ideals will likely fail if they can't

withstand the political pressures and VHP is a good example for such

failures.

 

advaitin , " idealistkumar " <idealistkumar

wrote:

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>

> I would like to attend formal instruction in Vedanta and I seek the

> groups guidence on that. There is a Chinmaya mission located in my

> town which I have attended a couple of times. However on doing

> research on the Internet, I find that it is affliated to the VHP -

> which, I understand, propagates a fundamentalist version of Hinduism.

> Please guide me in this respect.

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namaste and thanks a lot Shri Ram Chandranji for this wonderful information.

 

 

Ram Chandran <ramvchandran wrote:

Namaste Sri Kumar:

 

Honestly speaking, I don't believe that Chinmaya Mission (CM) is

affiliated with Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP). To some extent, CM is

sympathetic and supportive for specific activities carried out by VHP.

One of the reasons for its support is due to the fact that Swami

Chinmayananda was instrumental in the original formation of VHP.

Swamiji had the vision to propogate and promote the Hindu Ideals, the

rich Heritage and ethical values to the people of India including those

Hindus who live outside India. With that vision, he mobilized several

like minded idealistic leaders to formulate VHP during 1964. As for as

I know that Swamiji didn't believe in mixing spirituality with politics

and he made sure that the activities of Chinmaya Mission were not

influenced by politics. The acharyas in all CM centers are well trained

on Vedic and Vedantic literature with sufficient background in

Sanskrit. The acharyas have pledged to dedicate their entire life to

serve the community by conducting classes and discourses for both

adults and children. There are thousands of CM centers established all

over the world and they have been serving the universal community.

 

Please go ahead and attend the Vedantic classes and discourses at the

CM center in your town for few months and then decide whether you find

them useful. If you have time and ideas then contribute them through

voluntary service.

 

With my warmest regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

Note: Here are some background information on VHP. I request members

not to initiate any discussion on VHP which is beyond the scope of this

list.

 

VHP Origin, Purpose and Activities:

V.H.P. was founded in India on August 28, 1964 on Krishna Janmasthami

day at Sandipini Ashram Mumbai by Swami Chinmayanandji, Swami

Satyamitranandji, Sri K.M. Munshi, Master Tarasingh, Sir C.P. Ramaswami

Ayer, Hanuman Prasad Poddar, Jain Muni Sushil Kumarji, Dalai Lama and

Guruji Gowalkar and with the blessings of all Shankaracharyas and many

other saints.

 

VHP started with the conviction that a Hindu as one who follows any set

of worship originated in India, though residing anywhere in the world

but proud of the rich heritage, culture and tradition of Sanatanadharma.

The primary goal of VHP was to develop a unified Hindu Society by

eradicating the disruptive tendencies arising from diversities of sect,

languages, faith, caste and creed. VHP had the secondary goal to

promote unity, harmony and mutual respect between the followers of

various sects of worship within India. VHP's original intent was to

arouse consciousness to inculcate a sense of self pride, service to

humanity and solidarity among Hindus. VHP being a representative world

body of Hindus proclaimed to serve the Humanity without getting

entangled in politics.

 

Institutions with noble ideals will likely fail if they can't

withstand the political pressures and VHP is a good example for such

failures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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