Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Our Beloved Prabhuji writes : ( Frankly, I donot have any English version brahmasUtra to give a good and formal translation of the bhAshya vAkya-s. Normally, I follow my parama guruji's Kannada vyAkhyAna & write my understanding of the same in my *own* English:-)) This commentary can be found in 2-1-14 of vEdAnta sUtra > (In 'araMbhaNAdhikaraNaM' first sUtra tadananyatvaM .... ) Dennisji and others : Subbuji also gave reference to this now famous verse from B.S.B 2-1- 14 . HERE IT IS : Swami kRISHNANANDAJI TRANSLATES IT THUS : Arambhanadhikaranam: Topic 6 (Sutras 14-20) The world (effect) is non-different from Brahman (the cause) Tadananyatvamarambhanasabdadibhyah II.1.14 (148) The non-difference of them (i.e., of cause and effect) results from such terms as 'origin' and the like. Tat: (its, of the universe); Ananyatvam: non-difference; Arambhana sabdadibhyah: from words like 'origin', etc. That the effect is not different from the cause is shown here. In Sutra 13, the Sutrakara spoke from the point of view of Parinamavada and refuted the objection raised by the opponent that Brahman cannot be the material cause as it contradicts perception. In Parinamavada, Brahman actually undergoes transformation or modification. Now the same objection is overthrown from the view point of Vivartavada. In Vivartavada there is only apparent modification. Rope appears as a snake. It is not transformed into an actual snake. This is the doctrine of Advaita of Sri Sankara. In the previous Sutra the simile of the ocean and the waves was stated, accepting the apparent variety of objects. But in reality, cause and effect are one even now. This is clear from the word 'Arambhana' (beginning), just as by knowing a lump of clay, all clay will be known. Name is only a verbal modification. The true being is only clay. A pot is only clay even now. Similarly, the world is only Brahman even now. It is wrong to say that oneness and manifoldness are both true as in the case of ocean and waves, etc. The word 'eva' in 'Mrittiketyeva' shows that all diversity is unreal. The soul is declared to be one with Brahman. The objector or Purvapakshin says: 'If there is only one Truth viz., Brahman, the diverse objects of perception will be negated. The ethical injunction will become useless. All the texts embodying injunctions and prohibitions will lose their purport if the distinction on which their validity depends does not really exist. Moreover, the science of liberation of the soul will have no reality, if the distinction of teacher and the student on which it depends is not real. There would be no bondage and hence no liberation. As the science of the soul itself is unreal, it cannot lead to the Reality. If the doctrine of release is untrue, how can we maintain the truth of the absolute unity of the Self? But these objects have no force because the whole phenomenal existence is regarded as true as long as the knowledge of Brahman has not arisen, just as the dream creatures are regarded to be true till the waking state arrives. When we wake up after dreams, we know the dream world to be false but the knowledge of dreams is not false. Moreover, even dreams sometimes forebode the imminent reality of death. The reality of realisation of Brahman cannot be said to be illusory because it destroys ignorance and leads to the cessation of illusion. ***************************************************************** To Read the entire text , pl go to http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/bs_3/bs_3-3-04. GO TO CHAPTER 2 AND THEN SCROLL DOWN ! ********************************************************************* how i wish our beloved Subbuji were here to explain all this to us . He is well versed in Samskritam and has a good command over English to explain all this to us . Helen of troy's beauty launched a thousand ships and led to the Trojan war ! innocent word bAdhA' has lauched a thousand posts and this war on 'words' continues to haunt us and still the end is not in sight! i guess all is fair in Love and vedanta! anyway , was it Robert Frost who said " Poetry is what is lost in TRANSLATION " To paraphrase ,Shankara's Advaita is what is lost in translation! i don't know why our Anandaji is not coming to our rescue on this subject , he is the one who can give real meaning and depth to this word 'bAdhA' - ..... FOR SOME REASON, Anandaji is very silent. love and regards ps Michaelji , the one word which has the same meaning in all languages is Mother ! Compassion, thy name is Mother ! Sometimes , she can be cruelly compassionate as well ! ( her sword of discipline - tough love) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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