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praNAms

Hare Krishna

 

It would be an interesting reconciliation (samanvaya) between below two

seemingly contradictory shruti vAkyas. I'd humbly request Sri Sastri

prabhuji to throw more light on these shruti statements.

 

mana eva manushyANAm kAraNam bandhamokshayoH,

OR

manasaimEvAptavyaM nEha nAnAsti kiMchana

 

with

 

yato vAcho nivartante aprApya manasA saha....

OR

na tatra chakshurgacchati na vAggacchati nO manaH

 

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

bhaskar

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advaitin , bhaskar.yr wrote:

>

> praNAms

> Hare Krishna

>

> It would be an interesting reconciliation (samanvaya) between below

two

> seemingly contradictory shruti vAkyas. I'd humbly request Sri

Sastri

> prabhuji to throw more light on these shruti statements.

>

> mana eva manushyANAm kAraNam bandhamokshayoH,

> OR

> manasaimEvAptavyaM nEha nAnAsti kiMchana

>

> with

>

> yato vAcho nivartante aprApya manasA saha....

> OR

> na tatra chakshurgacchati na vAggacchati nO manaH

>

> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

> bhaskar

>

 

It would be an interesting reconciliation (samanvaya) between below

two

seemingly contradictory shruti vAkyas. I'd humbly request Sri Sastri

prabhuji to throw more light on these shruti statements.

 

mana eva manushyANAm kAraNam bandhamokshayoH,

OR

manasaimEvAptavyaM nEha nAnAsti kiMchana

 

with

 

yato vAcho nivartante aprApya manasA saha....

OR

na tatra chakshurgacchati na vAggacchati nO manaH

 

 

Namaste, Bhaskar Prabhuji and all

 

You have posted the question in the most intelligent way as to invite

a scholarly reply. Not being able to reply in a scholarly way, I

make bold to write a quick commonfolk reply from one who thinks he

has inherited some advaita learning from an erudite advaitic scholar-

father.

 

The scriptures as well as all Vedantic writings are full of such dual

type statements as the ones which you have focussed. The word `Mind'

(manas, chittam) is used in different contexts and connotations. When

they say `Mind is the villain of the piece', they refer to every

one's mind, the way every one holds as `his own mind'. It is the mind

that he means when he says: `To my mind, I think it is ….'. The

scriptures as well as the teachers mean this mind when they say, any

one of the following:

 

• Conquer your mind.

• Use your intellect to guide and steer your mind

• Think of God

• Keep good things in your mind

• Do not allow your mind to take you astray.

• Your mind cannot comprehend Him

• .. and so many more of this kind.

 

But when they say things like

 

• Mentally renounce everything that is material.

• Align yourself with the Imperishable Purusha within you.

• Do not think of anything (na kimcid-api cintayet – Gita Ch.6)

• When the mind is pure, that is where it is one with the

Absolute.

• The Right Seer's mind does not distinguish between good and

bad.

• Mind, relieved of all duality, is the released Mind

• … and so many more of this kind,

 

they refer to a mind which has already gone through all purifications

and so is no more the common mind of either the average man or the

seeker. In one sense there is then no `mind' at all in the earlier

sense, but still there is a mind which, `to my mind' (!), is

equivalent to that of a Ramana, a Shankara, a Jada-bharata or a

Sadashiva Brahman.

 

PraNAms to all advaitins.

profvk

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Dear Bhaskar-ji:

 

Would you mind, for the non-sanskrit speakers, try to transalte the different

possibilities

that you were requesting Sri Sastri to shed light on?

 

Thanks in advance either way (meaning even if you don't do it),

Mouna

 

 

 

advaitin , bhaskar.yr wrote:

 

> It would be an interesting reconciliation (samanvaya) between below two

> seemingly contradictory shruti vAkyas. I'd humbly request Sri Sastri

> prabhuji to throw more light on these shruti statements.

>

> mana eva manushyANAm kAraNam bandhamokshayoH,

> OR

> manasaimEvAptavyaM nEha nAnAsti kiMchana

>

> with

>

> yato vAcho nivartante aprApya manasA saha....

> OR

> na tatra chakshurgacchati na vAggacchati nO manaH

>

> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

> bhaskar

>

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Namaste.

 

One needs the mind for reconciliation (samanwaya) between

contradictions. Bhaskarji's appeal, I notice, is addressed to

scholarship. There can't be any scholarship without the mind

(analytical intellect). Underplaying the importance of the mind in

vedantic enquiry is like throwing away the spade in a treasure-hunt.

A scenario without mind is unthinkable. If there is any such being

without a mind, he sure is a vegetable or even less. Vegetables

don't go self-enquiring.

 

All said and done, Acharya's following words in Bhajagovindam pay

*rich tributes* to scholarship! For Mounaji, I have inserted the

English translations I could gather from the web (which means I am

not responsible for them):

____________

 

" Bhajagovindam Bhajagovindam

Govindam Bhaja Moodhamathe

Samprapte Sannihite Kaale

Nahi Nahi Rakshati Dukrinkarane " (1)

 

" [seek or Worship Govinda, Seek Govinda, Seek Govinda, O Fool. When

death comes at the appointed time, grammar rules will not save or

rescue you.] "

 

" muuDhaH kashchana vaiyaakaraNo

DukRiJNkaraNaadhyayana dhuriNaH .

shriimachchhamkara bhagavachchhishhyai

bodhita aasichchhodhitakaraNaH " .. (32)

 

" Thus (through the wisdom in Bhajagovindam) was a silly grammarian

lost in rules of grammar cleansed of his narrow vision and shown the

Light by Shankara's apostles. "

__________

 

To appreciate Bhajagovindam, we need the mind! Then what to say about

the lofty upanishadic statements quoted by Bhaskarji? Let us keep the

mind.

 

PraNAms.

 

Madathil Nair

__________________________

 

advaitin , bhaskar.yr wrote:

 

> It would be an interesting reconciliation (samanvaya) between below

two

> seemingly contradictory shruti vAkyas. I'd humbly request Sri

Sastri

> prabhuji to throw more light on these shruti statements.

>

> mana eva manushyANAm kAraNam bandhamokshayoH,

> OR

> manasaimEvAptavyaM nEha nAnAsti kiMchana

>

> with

>

> yato vAcho nivartante aprApya manasA saha....

> OR

> na tatra chakshurgacchati na vAggacchati nO manaH

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