Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 dear dennisji : i found this onderful article on this subject and i thought i will share the contents with you and others on the subject of Soul and its destiny ! The Soul and Its Destiny By Swami Nikhilananda Sri Ramakrishna Centre, New York, USA. The Vedanta philosophy discusses the nature of the soul from two standpoints: 1. Absolute or transcendental, and 2. Relative or phenomenal. From the absolute standpoint, the soul is non-dual, immortal, ever pure, ever free, ever illumined, and one with Brahman. It is untouched by hunger or thirst, good and evil, pain and pleasure, birth and death, and the other pairs of opposites. That is the soul's true nature. The realisation of which is the goal of a man's spiritual aspiration and striving. From this absolute standpoint, the soul is calledParamatma or Supreme Soul. But from the relative standpoint, the Vedanta philosophy admits the existence of a multitude of individual souls called Jivatmas, and distinguishes them from the Supreme Soul. Attached to the body, the individual soul is a victim of the pairs of the opposites. Entangled in the world, it seeks deliverance from the eternal round of birth and death, and with that end in view, studies the scriptures and practises spiritual disciplines. The embodied soul is associated with the sense organs, the mind and vital breath (Prana). There are ten sense organs, all subordinate to the mind as the central organ; five organs of perception and five organs of action. The five organs of perception comprise the organ of taste (tongue),smell (nose), vision (eyes), hearing (ear), and touch (skin). The five organs of action are the hands, the feet, the organ of speech, the organs of evacuation and the organ of generation. The presence of an irrefragable Self or consciousness is assumed in all acts of thinking. The Self or consciousness, which is the true 'seer' or subject, is unchanging intelligence, and can never be imagined to be non-existent. Atman (the Self) in man and Brahman in the universe are completely identical. The idea of body, senses, and the mind, associated with the non- self, is falsely superimposed upon the Self, and the Self, which is of the nature of pure consciousness, appears as a jiva, or phenomenal being, subject to the various limitations of the physical world. ___________________ _ The Soul Further explanations by Swami Nikhilananda The Rishis speak of two souls: the real soul and the apparent soul. The real soul is birthless, death less, immortal, and infinite. The same real soul, under the spell of ignorance, appears as the apparent man identified with the body, mind and senses. This apparent man becomes, on account of his attachment to the body, a victim of birth and death, virtue and vice, and the other pairs of opposites.The apparent man is bound to the world, and it is he, again, who strives for liberation. The enjoyment of material pleasures, and the subsequent satiation and weariness; the consciousness of bondage, and the struggle for freedom; the injunctions of the scriptures, and the practice of moral and spiritual disciplines- all this refers to the apparent man. Again, it is the apparent man who performs virtuous or sinful deeds, goes, after death, to heaven or hell, and assumes different bodies. But it must never be forgotten that rewards and punishments are spoken of only with reference to the reflected, or apparent soul. The real soul is forever free from the characteristics of the relative world. But the real soul is always free, illumined, and perfect. The real sun, non-dual and resplendent, shines brilliantly in the sky, though millions of its reflections are seen to move with the movement of the waves. " ___________________ dennis-ji : this was taken from the following web site http://www.hinduism.co.za/reincarn.htm This is beautiful and you can read Sri Ramana's views on this subject as well ! here are some more quotes from scriptures By means of thought, touch, sight and passions and by the abundance of food and drink there are birth and development of the (embodied) self. According to his deeds, the embodied self assumes successively various forms in various conditions " (Shvetashvatara Upanishad 5,11). Brihadaranyaka Upanishad (4,4,5): " According as one acts, according as one behaves, so does he become. The doer of good becomes good. The doer of evil becomes evil. One becomes virtuous by virtuous action, bad by bad action. " Just as the self advances through childhood, youth and old age in its physical body, so it advances to another body after death. The wise person is not confused by this change called death (2,13). Just as the body casts off worn out clothes and puts on new ones, so the infinite, immortal self casts off worn out bodies and enters into new ones (2,22).- Srimad Bhagavad gita Thanks dennisji for giving me an opportunity to explore this topic ! remember " The first condition of immortality is death. " regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Dear Advaitins, There is a lecture entitled " The Real and the Apparent Man " which was delivered by Swami Vivekananda has a good deal of info. about this topic and it contains the gist of advaita vEdAnta. The members can access it with the help of the following link: http://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_2/jnana-yoga/the_real_\ and_the_apparent_man.htm This lecture is particularly helpful to the beginners and the people having little or no background in Sanskrit language. Yours in Sri Ramakrishna, Br. Vinayaka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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