Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 advaitin , " Mouna " <maunna wrote: >> I once read by modern scholars that to be Hindu is to be part of a > race, like being " Jewish " , meaning that one cannot become it if one is > not " born " into a certain set of circumstances, one of which is having > hindu parents (like the case of jewish people being born from a jewish > mother). Namaste, This essay by Stephen Knapp may perhaps answer the question. http://www.stephen-knapp.com/about_the_name_Hindu.htm Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Namaskaram All, Here we are trying to understand " Adavita " - One without a second - to know " Aham Brahma Asmi " ..... Does the process of learning - removal of Ignorance - Dis-Covering - lead one to " create " boundaries ? like Hindu and non Hindu? How can process of learning - moving from " bondage " to " freedom " that is " Moksha " relate with walls around? It does indicate that there is a lot, lot more to learn. The difference is only in levels, some in KG level, some in 1st standard and some may be at Graduation / Post Grad level. namaskaram Mouna <maunna Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 > > This essay by Stephen Knapp may perhaps answer the question. > > http://www.stephen-knapp.com/about_the_name_Hindu.htm > it is quite an informative one and i think we should call ourselves SANATINS baskaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Namaste Sunder-ji. Immense thanks. I am proud. I am a Hindu not because I am bottled up and labelled so by a bunch of stupid invaders but because sanAtana dharma is my ancestry. Those who think that they are Hindu just because there are other competing labels moving around should read this essay. Your post arrived at the right time for me. Today's newspaper here has a front-page news item. A Hindu male in Tamil Nadu marrying a female dog. My colleagues and, even the waiters and cleaners, all of whom belong to a very modern religion, are very curious about it and asking me very hurting questions. I am trying hard not to feel hurt by their impertinence. Ignorant as they are, they only care to know what is bad about others. Derogation is nothing new to us, the so-called Hindus. We can counter it only by propagating to those who are intelligent and ready to listen that the word Hinduism, whatever its origin, is truly SanAtana Dharma. PraNAms. Madathil Nair ________________ advaitin , " Sunder Hattangadi " <sunderh wrote: > > This essay by Stephen Knapp may perhaps answer the question. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Namaste, This essay by Stephen Knapp may perhaps answer the question. http://www.stephen-knapp.com/about_the_name_Hindu.htm Regards, Sunder praNAms Hare Krishna Some observations in the above article can be found in one of the volumes of *complete works of Vivekananda* also. Swamy vivekananda too observes that hindu is not our real name. Yes, we can call ourselves as vaidiks, the followers of sanAtana vaidika dharma....ofcourse, if at all we are following it:-)) Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dear All: I must be one of those that are still in Kindergarden, because I don't understand the " tone " of some of the answers to my question. It is very simple: " ... did Sri Shankaracharya or any other of the Acharyas of the Advaita tradition ever spoke of Hinduism? as a philosophy, as a religion, a race or even comment on the word? " Was the term Hindu around at the moment of Sri Shankara? In these type of questions, IF we know the answer, usually a YES or a NO will do (and if yes, maybe some references to what has been said), but apparently these type of questions (quite un-intentionally) touch a certain nerve ending of the egoic identity (either by " being " or " not being " something). Thanks to All, Mouna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 advaitin , bhaskar.yr wrote: > praNAms > Hare Krishna > > Some observations in the above article can be found in one of the volumes > of *complete works of Vivekananda* also. Swamy vivekananda too observes > that hindu is not our real name. > > Yes, we can call ourselves as vaidiks, the followers of sanAtana vaidika > dharma....ofcourse, if at all we are following it:-)) Namste, The article in the following link is also a good supplement. The title of the article is " As BBC proves Vivekananda right after a century... " http://www.hindunet.com/forum/showflat.php? Cat= & Number=59749 & Main=59749 http://groups.google.co.inHindu-Religion/msg/10cfeec466bd5d02 This is what swamiji had told about the aryan invasion theory: " Our archaeologists' dreams of India being full of dark-eyed aborigines, and the bright Aryans came from - the Lord knows where. According to some, they came from Central Tibet; others will have it that they came from Central Asia. There are patriotic Englishmen who think that the Aryans were all red haired. Others, according to their idea, think that they were all black-haired. If the writer happens to be a black-haired man, the Aryans were all black-haired. Of late, there was an attempt made to prove that the Aryans lived on Swiss lake. I should not be sorry if they had been all drowned there, theory and all. Some say now that they lived at the North Pole. Lord bless the Aryans and their habitations! As for as the truth of these theories, there is not one word in our scriptures, not one, to prove that the Aryans came from anywhere outside of India, and in ancient India was included Afghanistan. There it ends... " Cheers! :-)) Yours in Sri Ramakrishna, Br. Vinayaka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Namaste dear Sri Mouna: You have asked a loaded question and have the desire to get a yes or no answer. According to available historical evidence, during Sankara's time, the practice of Hindu religion was in turmoil due to ignorance. During his entire life, Sankara tried to revive the religion of Eternal Human Dharma (Sanatana Dharma). He traveled throughout India from South to North and from East to West to educated and reestablished Sanatana Dharma. This may explain why he rightly focused on `the removal of Ignorance' as his primary goal in his works. Sankara's greatest contribution to Hinduism is by reading the major Hindu Scriptures and writing detailed commentaries on them. It should be pointed out there is no detailed historical source for the origin of Hinduism. I believe that the statement that Hinduism has no beginning explains the complexity. Please read the references below for information on Hinduism. With my warmest regards, Ram Chandran REFERENCES: 1. The Gazetteer of India, Volume 1: Country and people. Delhi, Publications Division, Government of India, 1965. CHAPTER Vlll - Religion HINDUISM by Dr. C.P.Ramaswami Aiyar, Dr. Nalinaksha Dutt, Prof. A.R.Wadia, Prof. M.Mujeeb, Dr.Dharm Pal and Fr. Jerome D'Souza, S.J. Link: http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gk1415/hinduism.htm 2 RELIGION, MAN AND SOCIETY Essays by Dr. C.P. Ramaswami Aiyar The C.P. Ramaswami Aiyar Foundation, Madras, 1979 3 FUNDAMENTALS OF HINDU FAITH AND CULTURE Ganesh & Co. Pvt. Ltd., Madras, 1959 4 The Vedas by Paramacharya Chandrasekara Bharathi, Published by Kanchi Kamakoti Mutt, Kanchipuram. advaitin , " Mouna " <maunna wrote: > > Dear All: > > I must be one of those that are still in Kindergarden, because I don't > understand the " tone " of some of the answers to my question. It is > very simple: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I have never posted to this elite list. Please accept my apologies if this seems to be very 'in your face'. Frankly, it is very difficult for me to take something from Stephen Knapp as being correct. Please read http://www.stephen-knapp.com/was_the_taj_mahal_a_vedic_temple.htm to see what I mean. People might think it is just a controversy. I have difficulty taking this as truth when I see articles similar to the above on the same site. if anyone feels I am wrong, please let me know. Sai On Nov 14, 2007 5:34 AM, <bhaskar.yr wrote: > Namaste, > > This essay by Stephen Knapp may perhaps answer the question. > > http://www.stephen-knapp.com/about_the_name_Hindu.htm > > Regards, > > Sunder > > praNAms > Hare Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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