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advaitin , " Mouna " <maunna wrote:

>> I once read by modern scholars that to be Hindu is to be part of a

> race, like being " Jewish " , meaning that one cannot become it if one is

> not " born " into a certain set of circumstances, one of which is having

> hindu parents (like the case of jewish people being born from a jewish

> mother).

 

Namaste,

 

This essay by Stephen Knapp may perhaps answer the question.

 

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/about_the_name_Hindu.htm

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

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Namaskaram All,

 

Here we are trying to understand " Adavita " - One without a second -

to know " Aham Brahma Asmi " .....

 

Does the process of learning - removal of Ignorance - Dis-Covering - lead one to

" create " boundaries ? like Hindu and non Hindu?

How can process of learning - moving from " bondage " to " freedom " that is "

Moksha " relate with walls around?

 

It does indicate that there is a lot, lot more to learn. The difference is only

in levels, some in KG level, some in 1st standard and some may be at Graduation

/ Post Grad level.

 

 

 

namaskaram

 

 

Mouna <maunna

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaste Sunder-ji.

 

Immense thanks. I am proud. I am a Hindu not because I am bottled

up and labelled so by a bunch of stupid invaders but because sanAtana

dharma is my ancestry. Those who think that they are Hindu just

because there are other competing labels moving around should read

this essay.

 

Your post arrived at the right time for me. Today's newspaper here

has a front-page news item. A Hindu male in Tamil Nadu marrying a

female dog. My colleagues and, even the waiters and cleaners, all of

whom belong to a very modern religion, are very curious about it and

asking me very hurting questions. I am trying hard not to feel hurt

by their impertinence. Ignorant as they are, they only care to know

what is bad about others.

 

Derogation is nothing new to us, the so-called Hindus. We can

counter it only by propagating to those who are intelligent and ready

to listen that the word Hinduism, whatever its origin, is truly

SanAtana Dharma.

 

PraNAms.

 

Madathil Nair

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advaitin , " Sunder Hattangadi " <sunderh

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> This essay by Stephen Knapp may perhaps answer the question.

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Namaste,

 

This essay by Stephen Knapp may perhaps answer the question.

 

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/about_the_name_Hindu.htm

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

 

praNAms

Hare Krishna

 

Some observations in the above article can be found in one of the volumes

of *complete works of Vivekananda* also. Swamy vivekananda too observes

that hindu is not our real name.

 

Yes, we can call ourselves as vaidiks, the followers of sanAtana vaidika

dharma....ofcourse, if at all we are following it:-))

 

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

bhaskar

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Dear All:

 

I must be one of those that are still in Kindergarden, because I don't

understand the " tone " of some of the answers to my question. It is

very simple:

 

" ... did Sri Shankaracharya or any other of the Acharyas of the

Advaita tradition ever spoke of Hinduism? as a philosophy, as a

religion, a race or even comment on the word? " Was the term Hindu

around at the moment of Sri Shankara?

 

In these type of questions, IF we know the answer, usually a YES or a

NO will do (and if yes, maybe some references to what has been said),

but apparently these type of questions (quite un-intentionally) touch

a certain nerve ending of the egoic identity (either by " being " or

" not being " something).

 

Thanks to All,

Mouna

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advaitin , bhaskar.yr wrote:

 

> praNAms

> Hare Krishna

>

> Some observations in the above article can be found in one of the

volumes

> of *complete works of Vivekananda* also. Swamy vivekananda too

observes

> that hindu is not our real name.

>

> Yes, we can call ourselves as vaidiks, the followers of sanAtana

vaidika

> dharma....ofcourse, if at all we are following it:-))

 

Namste,

 

The article in the following link is also a good supplement. The

title of the article is " As BBC proves Vivekananda right after a

century... "

 

http://www.hindunet.com/forum/showflat.php?

Cat= & Number=59749 & Main=59749

 

http://groups.google.co.inHindu-Religion/msg/10cfeec466bd5d02

 

This is what swamiji had told about the aryan invasion theory:

 

" Our archaeologists' dreams of India being full of dark-eyed

aborigines, and the bright Aryans came from - the Lord knows where.

According to some, they came from Central Tibet; others will have it

that they came from Central Asia. There are patriotic Englishmen who

think that the Aryans were all red haired. Others, according to

their idea, think that they were all black-haired. If the writer

happens to be a black-haired man, the Aryans were all black-haired.

Of late, there was an attempt made to prove that the Aryans lived on

Swiss lake. I should not be sorry if they had been all drowned

there, theory and all. Some say now that they lived at the North

Pole. Lord bless the Aryans and their habitations! As for as the

truth of these theories, there is not one word in our scriptures,

not one, to prove that the Aryans came from anywhere outside of

India, and in ancient India was included Afghanistan. There it

ends... "

 

Cheers! :-))

 

Yours in Sri Ramakrishna,

 

Br. Vinayaka.

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Namaste dear Sri Mouna:

 

You have asked a loaded question and have the desire to get a yes or

no answer. According to available historical evidence, during

Sankara's time, the practice of Hindu religion was in turmoil due to

ignorance. During his entire life, Sankara tried to revive the

religion of Eternal Human Dharma (Sanatana Dharma). He traveled

throughout India from South to North and from East to West to

educated and reestablished Sanatana Dharma. This may explain why he

rightly focused on `the removal of Ignorance' as his primary goal in

his works. Sankara's greatest contribution to Hinduism is by reading

the major Hindu Scriptures and writing detailed commentaries on them.

It should be pointed out there is no detailed historical source for

the origin of Hinduism. I believe that the statement that Hinduism

has no beginning explains the complexity. Please read the references

below for information on Hinduism.

With my warmest regards,

Ram Chandran

 

REFERENCES:

1. The Gazetteer of India, Volume 1: Country and people. Delhi,

Publications Division, Government of India, 1965.

CHAPTER Vlll - Religion

HINDUISM

by Dr. C.P.Ramaswami Aiyar, Dr. Nalinaksha Dutt,

Prof. A.R.Wadia, Prof. M.Mujeeb,

Dr.Dharm Pal and Fr. Jerome D'Souza, S.J.

Link: http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gk1415/hinduism.htm

 

2 RELIGION, MAN AND SOCIETY

Essays by Dr. C.P. Ramaswami Aiyar

The C.P. Ramaswami Aiyar Foundation, Madras, 1979

 

3 FUNDAMENTALS OF HINDU FAITH AND CULTURE

Ganesh & Co. Pvt. Ltd., Madras, 1959

 

4 The Vedas by Paramacharya Chandrasekara Bharathi,

Published by Kanchi Kamakoti Mutt, Kanchipuram.

 

 

advaitin , " Mouna " <maunna wrote:

>

> Dear All:

>

> I must be one of those that are still in Kindergarden, because I

don't

> understand the " tone " of some of the answers to my question. It is

> very simple:

>

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I have never posted to this elite list. Please accept my apologies if

this seems to be very 'in your face'.

 

Frankly, it is very difficult for me to take something from Stephen

Knapp as being correct. Please read

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/was_the_taj_mahal_a_vedic_temple.htm to

see what I mean.

 

People might think it is just a controversy. I have difficulty taking

this as truth when I see articles similar to the above on the same

site.

 

if anyone feels I am wrong, please let me know.

 

Sai

 

On Nov 14, 2007 5:34 AM, <bhaskar.yr wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> This essay by Stephen Knapp may perhaps answer the question.

>

> http://www.stephen-knapp.com/about_the_name_Hindu.htm

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

>

> praNAms

> Hare Krishna

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