Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Sri Maunaji has raised some interesting questions . i would direct him to the following link and request him to read the following verses From Devi Kalotram -a text in Tamizh translated and explained by Sri Ramana ! http://www.madhuramurali.org/swamigal/essay/devikalotram/ji_devikalot ram15c.html Here is one verse which i liked immensely ! 'Desamunm sãdhi mudalãm ivattrrai cherndanuvum mãsagal varnnãchirama manninavum - pesumip bhãvanaigallai agatri pattrriye thannilaiyin bhãvanaiye yenrum pazhagu bhaya - mevã' (48) He says that without our knowledge we hold an attachment ('abhimãna') within us. That is, let us say that we have gone to some foreign country. When we see an Indian there, instinctively we feel happy. Why? This is because you possess the thought, 'I am an Indian'. Therefore, you feel very happy as soon as you see him. Suppose we are in some part of Northern India. We feel happy as soon as we see a Tamilian. We feel all the more happy when we see a man belonging to our caste. This is deepened further, if the man belongs to our native town or village. Here, Ramana says that you should not have even that 'pattru' (attachment) - 'desamum, sãdhi'. 'mãsu agal varnam ãsirama manninavum' - I have studied the Vedas; he has also studied the Vedas. This attachment is born due to discipline. Even this should not be experienced 'pesum ip bhãvanaigallai agatri' - giving up all these bhãvãs 'than nilaiyin bhãvanaiye' - take hold of the Self that is the place of origin of the ego 'pattri yenrum pazhagu' - ever practice this (that you are the True Self) All rise up only because of the rise of the ego 'i'. When you identify yourself with the body you feel, 'I am a Brahmin; I am an Indian; I am a Brahmachãri; I am a man; I am a woman, etc.' How will such thoughts rise up if the identification with the body stops? Such thoughts will not rise up at all. Hence, a Jnãni has no caste, creed or nationality. He has no such thing. He has gone beyond all those to the highest state. So, shirk even such attachments. ********************************************************************* i would request all learned members to read the 4 part serial on devi kalotram! mind blowing! the reason i asked the question on karma and reincarnation was precisely for this reason ! THERE IS NO KARMA AND REINCARNATION FOR A JNANI ! SO WHERE IS THE QUESTION OF HIS BEING A HINDU ? pl figure this all out and let me know ... first , one has to be a human(e) before he/she can be anything else! love and regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 sorry! the link i posted does not work for some odd reason ! try this , instead madhuramurali.org/swamigal/essay/devikalotram/ji_devikalotram15b.html enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Due to some reason or other this link too didn't work.. Jabalimuni bhagini_niveditaa <bhagini_niveditaa advaitin Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:20:30 AM Re: karma and re-incarnation- hindu and advaita ? sorry! the link i posted does not work for some odd reason ! try this , instead madhuramurali. org/swamigal/ essay/devikalotr am/ji_devikalotr am15b.html enjoy! ______________________________\ ____ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 dear jabali : just cut and paste the following address in search ! it work for sure! madhuramurali.org/swamigal/essay/devikalotram/ji_devikalotram15b.html when you yearn for learning , devi helps you somehow or the other ! your suister is more than a search engine! smile:-) advaitin , Jabali Muni <jabalimuni wrote: > > Due to some reason or other this link too didn't work.. > Jabalimuni > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dear Saraswathiji, Thanks! Hats off to you.Really Devi in the guise of YOU came to my rescue.I always deem your brain more than a computer.It worked no doubt. Regards, Jabalimuni bhagini_niveditaa <bhagini_niveditaa advaitin Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:32:46 AM Re: karma and re-incarnation- hindu and advaita ? dear jabali : just cut and paste the following address in search ! it work for sure! madhuramurali. org/swamigal/ essay/devikalotr am/ji_devikalotr am15b.html when you yearn for learning , devi helps you somehow or the other ! your suister is more than a search engine! smile:-) advaitin@ s.com, Jabali Muni <jabalimuni@ ...> wrote: > > Due to some reason or other this link too didn't work.. > Jabalimuni > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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