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Dear Vaibhav :

 

You addressed your post to Dennisji but the learned member who

responded to your post is none other than Sri Ananda wood-ji ! Bioth

Dennis ji and anandaji are moderators of this list . Dennisji is the

chief moderator 2007 . Dennisji lives in England and has published

quite a few books , the most recent being 'Back to Truth' available

at amazon.com.

 

Anandaji lives in Pune, Maharashtra . Anandaji is the disciple of

sri Atmananda (1883-1959) .If you would like to read about Sri

Atmananda , pl go to

 

http://www.bluedove.org/Advaita_Atmananda.htm - 16k

 

If you search the archives , you will find a series of articles by

Sri Anandaji on his Sri ATMANANDA'S PHILOSOPHY. Sri Atmananda is the

author of many books .

 

Incidentally , sri Anandaji has recently published a book

called 'ways of Truth'. It is also available at dc printers.

 

The reason i like sri anandaji's messages are they are written in

simple language with very few quotations from scriptures but at the

same time they are very profound . It takes many readings to

understand what sri anandaji is trying to convey . i , for one ,

really liked his take on 'karma' - if he would kindly pen his views

on 'reincarnation' , it would be an icing on the cake !

 

i remember Anandaji writing in one of the messages on the group

board that " that no transformation of the world -- nor even of

personality in world -- is essential to realization. A change of

perspective alone is truly needed. "

 

Guess what ! it is so difficult to change perspectives because we

are so wedded to 'personalities and their perspectives' - we want to

know what Shankara said or what SSS said instead of independently

thinking on our own ! This is called 'conditioning'

 

anyway ....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin , vaibhav khire <vskhire wrote:

>

> Dennisji,

> Firstly, thank you for addressing my question. I would also like

to thank Shastriji and Paramhansa for replying earlier. I could not

reply in that thread since I was out of town last couple of days.

>

>

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Oh my god! I dont know why or how I got confused between the two names. I think

I must have read some post by Dennisji before and then replied to this post. I

read Anandaji's post several times to completely assimilate the message before

replying but didnt read the name of the sender and unconsciously thought it was

Dennisji.

 

Anyway I apologize to both of you, and thank you very much Bhaginiji for

pointing it out. Of course, I respect both equally and hope to learn from both.

Like Niveditaji said, it would be really good if they would pen down more

thoughts here.

 

Pranam,

~Vaibhav.

 

 

 

bhagini_niveditaa <bhagini_niveditaa wrote:

Dear Vaibhav :

 

You addressed your post to Dennisji but the learned member who

responded to your post is none other than Sri Ananda wood-ji ! Bioth

Dennis ji and anandaji are moderators of this list . Dennisji is the

chief moderator 2007 . Dennisji lives in England and has published

quite a few books , the most recent being 'Back to Truth' available

at amazon.com.

 

Anandaji lives in Pune, Maharashtra . Anandaji is the disciple of

sri Atmananda (1883-1959) .If you would like to read about Sri

Atmananda , pl go to

 

http://www.bluedove.org/Advaita_Atmananda.htm - 16k

 

If you search the archives , you will find a series of articles by

Sri Anandaji on his Sri ATMANANDA'S PHILOSOPHY. Sri Atmananda is the

author of many books .

 

Incidentally , sri Anandaji has recently published a book

called 'ways of Truth'. It is also available at dc printers.

 

The reason i like sri anandaji's messages are they are written in

simple language with very few quotations from scriptures but at the

same time they are very profound . It takes many readings to

understand what sri anandaji is trying to convey . i , for one ,

really liked his take on 'karma' - if he would kindly pen his views

on 'reincarnation' , it would be an icing on the cake !

 

i remember Anandaji writing in one of the messages on the group

board that " that no transformation of the world -- nor even of

personality in world -- is essential to realization. A change of

perspective alone is truly needed. "

 

Guess what ! it is so difficult to change perspectives because we

are so wedded to 'personalities and their perspectives' - we want to

know what Shankara said or what SSS said instead of independently

thinking on our own ! This is called 'conditioning'

 

anyway ....

 

advaitin , vaibhav khire <vskhire wrote:

>

> Dennisji,

> Firstly, thank you for addressing my question. I would also like

to thank Shastriji and Paramhansa for replying earlier. I could not

reply in that thread since I was out of town last couple of days.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.

 

 

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oh! Vaibhav-ji! don't worry ! Both anandaji and dennisji are mature

in their understanding and will not mind such 'freudian' slips!

smile :- )

 

please read anandaji 's latest post on Karma and you will get a

better idea of what he is trying to convey!

 

a very interesting discussion is going on in the list whether Jnani

knows he is a jnani after he geta Alzhemeir's ( humorously

described 'what is a name ' DISEASE )

 

Sadaji has responded beautifully to Dennisji post .

 

May i also in this context quote a verse cited by sri Anandaji in

post number 37301 !

 

 

Anandaji states :

 

" In a passage from the Chandogya Upanishad, 8.3.2, the subtle

causality of world is described through the metaphor of an

agricultural field whose changing manifestations distract from a

shining treasure that is to be found.

 

 

tad yathApi hiraNya-nidhiM nihitam akShetraj~nA

upary upari sa~Ncaranto na vindeyur

 

[Those who do not rightly know

a field where golden treasure lies

keep passing over it, but may not find it.]

 

evam eve 'mAH sarvAH prajA

ahar ahar gacchantya etaM brahma-lokaM

 

[so also all these creatures entered here,

day after day, in this world

where all-completeness is both

shining goal and ever present ground.]

 

na vindanti anR^itena hi pratyUdhAH

 

[They do not discover it; for they

are kept distracted, by unreality.]

 

In this passage, the distracting 'unreality' of world is represented

by the changing contours, plants, flowers and fruits manifested by

the field. The shining treasure is the changeless reality of

underlying ground -- which is entirely complete, immediately

underfoot.

 

Each creature seen moving in the field is not a true knower of the

field, but only a changing manifestation of the field causality. The

only true knower of the field is the ground itself, invigorating and

supporting each creature and everything else that arises from it. "

 

Vaibhavji , anyone can quote scriptures - i do too ! but , while

quoting scriptures one must truly understand what the scriptures are

trying to convey! Chandogya upanishads was a favorite upanishad of

my gurudeva and he said ii is enough if one reads and understands

this upanishad only! recently Sadaji , asked us to read chapter 6 of

this upanishad! Chapter 6 is one of the best where Uddalaka muni

explains 'Tat twam asi ' mahavakya to his son Svetaketu with the

help of mundane examples! ! but Sadaji , which psarticular verse

were you referring to in the context of jnani and alzheimer's ? is

this the one ? if not , pl clarify!

 

( " Around a dying person afflicted with illness, my dear, his

relatives gather and ask: `Do you know me? Do you know me?' He

knows them as long as his speech is not merged in his mind, his

mind in his prana (breath), his prana in heat (fire) and the heat

in the Highest Deity.

 

" But when his speech is merged in his mind, his mind in his prana,

his prana in heat and the heat in the Highest Deity, then he does

not know them.

 

" Now, that which is the subtle essence—in it all that exists has

its self. That is the True. That is the Self. That thou art,

Svetaketu. " " Please, venerable Sir, give me further instruction, "

said the son " So be it, my dear; " the father replied. )

 

 

Sadaji , pl help us!

 

love and regards

 

 

advaitin , vaibhav khire <vskhire wrote:

>

> Oh my god! I dont know why or how I got confused between the two

names. I think I must have read some post by Dennisji before and

then replied to this post. I read Anandaji's post several times to

completely assimilate the message before replying but didnt read the

name of the sender and unconsciously thought it was Dennisji.

> bhagini_niveditaa <bhagini_niveditaa

wrote: Dear Vaibhav :

>

> You addressed your post to Dennisji but the learned member who

> responded to your post is none other than Sri Ananda wood-ji !

Bioth

> Dennis ji and anandaji are moderators of this list . Dennisji is

the

> chief moderator 2007 . Dennisji lives in England and has

published

> quite a few books , the most recent being 'Back to Truth'

available

> at amazon.com.

>

> Anandaji lives in Pune, Maharashtra . Anandaji is the disciple of

> sri Atmananda (1883-1959) .If you would like to read about Sri

> Atmananda , pl go to

>

> http://www.bluedove.org/Advaita_Atmananda.htm - 16k

>

> If you search the archives , you will find a series of articles

by

> Sri Anandaji on his Sri ATMANANDA'S PHILOSOPHY. Sri Atmananda is

the

> author of many books .

>

> Incidentally , sri Anandaji has recently published a book

> called 'ways of Truth'. It is also available at dc printers.

>

> The reason i like sri anandaji's messages are they are written in

> simple language with very few quotations from scriptures but at

the

> same time they are very profound . It takes many readings to

> understand what sri anandaji is trying to convey . i , for one ,

> really liked his take on 'karma' - if he would kindly pen his

views

> on 'reincarnation' , it would be an icing on the cake !

>

> i remember Anandaji writing in one of the messages on the group

> board that " that no transformation of the world -- nor even of

> personality in world -- is essential to realization. A change of

> perspective alone is truly needed. "

>

> Guess what ! it is so difficult to change perspectives because we

> are so wedded to 'personalities and their perspectives' - we want

to

> know what Shankara said or what SSS said instead of independently

> thinking on our own ! This is called 'conditioning'

>

> anyway ....

>

> advaitin , vaibhav khire <vskhire@> wrote:

> >

> > Dennisji,

> > Firstly, thank you for addressing my question. I would also

like

> to thank Shastriji and Paramhansa for replying earlier. I could

not

> reply in that thread since I was out of town last couple of days.

> >

> >

 

> Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.

>

>

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oops! i apologize to moderstors for not deleting the contents of the

earlier messages i was responding to!

 

sorry!

 

love and regards

 

ps - anyway - i am planning to visit my octogenerian Mom in delhi ,

india in the december of 2007 and you guys will also enjoy

a 'vacation' from me for the months of dec-jan ! smile :-) btw , i

just ordered Anandaji's book 'ways to truth' from dc printers on line

and i will read that book on my indian sojourn! Books make good

companions while travelling specially when internet is not available !

e!

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