how to achieve self-realisation?

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Hi Iamone,

 

One guy's opinion. It's a one-liner:

 

The complete and total understanding that the

perceiver cannot be perceived; whatever can be

perceived cannot possibly be the same as the

perceiver.

 

All of the scriptures keep saying this one thing over

and over in a multitude of ways. It lies behind

everything else as a foundation...I also realize

others may disagree!!!!!...one guy's opinion!

 

 

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advaitin , " ayamwan " <ayamwan wrote:

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> Now in simple steps, how do you actually achieve self-realisation?

>

 

I would say that there is nothing to achieve. The word 'achievement'

implies gaining what is not already the case. Or as Ramana Maharshi

said, maybe not in these exact words, The Self does not need to be

realized (made real). It is already real.

 

You are already what you are. The mind is not capable of knowing the

totality of what you are since the mind limits Reality to bite sized

portions. The mind is a duality-making tool, therefore the answer is

beyond the mind.

 

A supposed separate individual seeking the oneness he/she already is,

is quite a joke. And when you get the joke you will laugh.

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Namaste Sri Ayamwan:

 

First, welcome to the list and we look forward to your active

participation with insightful questions and comments.

 

If you are looking for a step by step procedure for self-realization,

your first step should be read the Bhagavad Gita and digest the

question/answer session that took place between the Consciousness

(Lord Krishna, the Paramathma) and the intellect (Arjuna the

Jivathma). Scriptures such as the Bhagavad Gita suggests that

the 'impure mind' prevents us from recognizing our True Nature. When

the mind gets purified through Yoga Sadhana (Developing the attitude

to accept life events without resistance) with Shraddha

(unquestinable faith and conviction), we can see the light - just

like our ability to see the sun with the disappearance of the

clouds). Only with the purified mind one could have the understanding

of the unity of the perceiver and perceived (Sri Steve's contention

below). Sri Richard is quite right that the blurred vision of duality

is created by the impure mind - impure mind is just like the dust-

filled mirror. We do clean the mirror to see ourselves on the mirror

and similarly we do need to clean our mind to see the SELF!

 

with my warmest regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

Note: What I have suggested is one of the many frameworks of thoughts

for understanding and realizing the Self. You will hear from other

learned members with more thoughtful answers to your question.

 

advaitin , " ayamwan " <ayamwan wrote:

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> Now in simple steps, how do you actually achieve self-realisation?

>

> Thank you.

>

> 1

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advaitin , Steve Stoker <otnac6 wrote:

>

>

> The complete and total understanding that the

> perceiver cannot be perceived; whatever can be

> perceived cannot possibly be the same as the

> perceiver.

>

 

advaitin , " Richard " <richarkar wrote:

>

> You are already what you are. The mind is not capable of knowing

the

> totality of what you are since the mind limits Reality to bite

sized

> portions. The mind is a duality-making tool, therefore the answer

is

> beyond the mind.

[Guest guest]

Dear You-are-not-two:

 

 

Now in simple steps, how do you actually achieve self-realisation?

 

" you " can't, because only YOU can make that happen.

 

 

 

pranams to ALL,

Mouna