Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Gita Satsangh Chapter 11 Verses 27 to 28 (Verse Translation by Swami Gambirananda, Gita Bhasya and commentary by Swami Chinmayanandaji) Vaktraani te twaramaanaa vishanti Damshtraakaraalaani bhayaanakaani; Kechidwilagnaa dashanaantareshu Sandrishyante choornitairuttamaangaih. Verse 27 27. They rapidly enter into Your terrible mouths with cruel teeths! Some are seen sticking in the gaps between the teeth, with their heads crushed! Visanti, they enter tvarmanah, rapidly, in great haste into te, Your vaktrani, mouths;-what kind of mouths?-bhayanakani, terrible damstra-karalani, with cruel teeth. Besides, among these who have entered the mouths, kecit, some samdrsyante, are see vilagna, sticking, like meat eaten dasanantaresu, in the gaps between the teeth uttamangaih, with their heads curnitaih, crushed. A philosophy that comprehends the totality without fear or favor and is even true to its mission of seeking Truth, cannot afford to ignore the DESTRUCTIVE-aspect in nature. No creation is possible without being preceded by the process of destruction of its own existence as the raw material from which the created is produced. On the face of the Universe also, wherever there is " existence " it is nothing but a repetition of constant change and change can be interpreted either in terms of constant-creation with regard to the MADE-PRODUCTS, or as a process of constant-destruction with regard to the RAW-MATERIAL that changed. Thus, we see that in Hinduism, the daring Masters of the Aryan fold, while extolling the beauty of the Reality, indulged themselves in viewing It not only as the Omniscient-Creator, or as the Omnipotent- Sustainer, but also as the All-powerful-Devourer of all names and forms. This may look dreadful to those creeds that have not yet come to watch and analyze Life in its totality. Arjuna's words are significant. He does not see the Universal-Form itself devouring the names and forms. On the other hand, he observed that all names and forms " ENTER IN HASTE INTO THY MOUTH. " When we watch an ocean, we do not find the ocean ever rising up to absorb the waves, but the waves which have risen from the ocean, after a momentary play upon the surface, rush back to disappear into the very ocean. The multiplicity that has risen from the Totality, after its play upon the surface of Truth, must necessarily rush back in all hurry into the very Whole from which they had arisen. Arjuna watches " ALL THE SONS OF DHRITARASHTRA, THE HOSTS OF KINGS, BHISHMA, DRONA, KARNA, THE SON OF A CHARIOTEER, ALONG WITH THE WARRIOR CHIEFTAINS OF OURS " entering precipitately into the yawning mouth of the Principle of Destruction in nature. This not only frightens Arjuna and unnerves him, but also gives him a confidence to look ahead --- in spite of the fact that in numerical strength, in supplies, and in technicians, his own army was much inferior to the mighty forces of the Kurus. The Vision which he saw was in fact a peep into the future. In the Vishwaroopa, when the Lord expresses Himself as the entire world of phenomena, a conception of oneness arises in which not only space shrinks, but even Time becomes an object-of-observation. It is no wonder, therefore, that Arjuna saw in that picture THE PAST MERGING WITH THE PRESENT AND MOVING FORWARD TO MINGLE WITH THE ENTIRE FUTURE. When I have the entire Geeta-book before me, I can read either the preceding two pages or can skip over them and read the third page ahead or, according to my will and desire, continue reading this very same page. Similarly, when the whole Universe is brought at once within the compass of Arjuna's vision, he could see herein at one gaze " ALL THE HERE AND THE THERE, AND THE EVERYWHERE " -- - so too THE PAST, THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE. The modern scientists also have now come to realize and accept that Time and Space are one and the same, and they are each expressed in terms of the other.* The seekers of Truth, themselves truthful, were not all afraid if their enquiry took them to the aspect of the terrible in the Truth. The world is a combination of the beautiful and the ugly, the good and the bad, the soft and the hard, the sweet and the bitter. God, the Lord, has Himself become all these, and therefore, no adoration of the Lord, or estimate of the Reality, will be complete, if, according to our taste, we recognize only the beautiful, the good, the soft, and the sweet aspects of Him. An unprejudiced and detached mind will have to recognize Him as the ugly and the bad, the hard and the bitter also. That philosophy alone is complete which points out that the Supreme is, in fact, in Its Absolute Nature, beyond all these qualities. In a purely scientific approach, therefore, Arjuna is made to express all the details, even if they be blood-curdling and gruesome. No doubt, the Geeta has its own sense of realism. The mouth of death is described here with all faithfulness as " TERRIBLE WITH TUSKS, " " FEARFUL TO BEHOLD. " HOW DO THEY ENTER THY MOUTH? ARJUNA SAYS: Yathaa nadeenaam bahavo'mbuvegaah Samudramevaabhimukhaah dravanti; Tathaa tavaamee naralokaveeraah Vishanti vaktraanyabhivijwalanti. Verse 28 28. As the numerous currents of the waters of rivers rush towards the sea alone so also do those heroes of the human world enter into Your blazing mouths. Yatha, as the bahavah, numerous ambu-vegah, currents of the waters, particularly the swift ones nadinam, of flowing rivers dravanti abhimukhah, rush towards, enter into the samudram, sea eva, alone tatha, so also do ami, those nara-loka-virah, heroes of the human world-Bhisma and others visanti, enter into tava, Your abhi-vijvalanti, blazing, glowing vaktrani, mouths. In this stanza, the analogy of the torrential rivers, gushing ahead to reach the ocean and become one with it, is used. Each river has, no doubt, its own distinct personality, gathered from the nature and condition of the very terrain through which it has flowed. At no point does any river pause or hesitate to gush forward. An observer of limited powers of understanding may say that each drop of water in its flow in the river is moving towards a known point down on its way; but, to a true observer, all rivers flow towards the ocean and they cannot, and will not, stop until they reach the ocean, having reached which, all distinctions end. Each drop of water in the river came from the ocean --- in the form of a cloud it reached the mountains, and there in the form of rain it manifested; watering the lands on the banks and supplying life and nourishment to the fields, they gushed down in their torrential haste to the very basin from which they took off on this " MERCY FLIGHT. " Similarly, from the Totality, the individuals have come to serve the race, to nourish the culture, to contribute to the beauty of the world...and yet, on their pilgrimage none of them can pause even for a moment en route. All must rush towards the Source from which they arose. The river loses nothing by reaching the ocean. Even though it gathers enrooted certain special qualities, and therefore, a special name, and has, for itself, a separate tangible form, it is all a temporary phase, a convenience taken up by " the waters of the ocean " to make the dry land smile in plenty. The more thought is given to it, the more can this stanza yields its secret joys and expose its innate beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Swami Dayananda Saraswati's Explanatios: And all these sons of Dhrtarastra along with hosts of kings as well as Bhlsma, Drona, Karna also along with our most important fighters hurriedly enter your frightening mouths with projecting canines. Some, sticking between the teeth are seen with their heads crushed. As he is seeing it, Arjuna says, " All these people are entering into your frightening mouths with projecting canines, " Who does he see? Ail these sons of Dhrtarastra, dhrtarastrasya, ami sarve putrah, all these sons. Along with them, sahaiva, are seen hosts of kings, avani- pala-samghaih. Avani means earth and avani-palah are those who protect the earth, the rulers. Various kings and chieftans have assembled for the impending battle and Arjuna sees them all now entering into these mouths. Further, he sees the grand old man of this kuru family, the imposing, invincible Bhlsma. And Drona, his own archery teacher. They are both on the other side as is suta-putra, Karna, the son of a charioteer. Even though he was the son of Kunti, no one here knows this except Krishna and Kunti. Even Arjuna does not yet know this is his own brother standing in the enemy's camp. Along with all these are seen our own people, asmadiyaih, fighters who are so important in. the battle, yodha-mukhyaih, like Dhrstadyumna, Satyaki and so on. " All of them are entering into your mouth. " They are not just entering but rushing into these mouths of destruction. " With great hurry they seem to enter, " tvaratnanah viSanti. What kind of mouths are they? Frightening, bhayanakani, because of their rows and rows of canine teeth sticking out all over, datnstra- karalanL Some of those who have entered are sticking, vilagnah, in between the teeth, dasanantaresu. " Bhlsma, Drona, Duryodhana and so on are all in the process of being devoured by you. " Lord Krishna has shown Arjuna what is going to happen. They are all being chewed up by the teeth of time. It would be something like seeing a film of your own growth on a speeded up projector. The changes would be so rapid that it would be frightening. Especially seeing yourself age so quickly. It is similar here. The process of life is quickened and shown to Arjuna. These people are seen, sandrsyante, with their heads crushed, curnilaih uttamangaih (uttatna-anga - important part, the head) being masticated by the mouth of time. How are all these people entering into the mouths of destruction? Arjuna describes this using two examples. All these people are rushing into the jaws of death like the many rapid river waters flowing towards the ocean, always keeping it in view, abhimvkhah. With the speed and relentlessness of river waters hurrying to the ocean, these people are entering these mouths of the cosjnic form which Arjuna says are, abhijvalanti, ablaze. Into these burning, brilliant, devouring mouths of fire, these warriors, ami vlrah, are entering. In the world of men, nara-loka, there are great courageous heroes like Bhlsma. Arjuna sees them all entering into the inferno of these mouths of death like the rivers into the ocean. The ocean here can be taken as Virat the cosmic form. Then the mouths are the point of entry of the rivers, the confluence. Arjuna sees all these great warriors entering into the mouths of death with great haste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 advaitin , " Ram Chandran " <ramvchandran wrote: > > Vaktraani te twaramaanaa vishanti Damshtraakaraalaani bhayaanakaani; > Kechidwilagnaa dashanaantareshu Sandrishyante > choornitairuttamaangaih. Verse 27 > > 27. They rapidly enter into Your terrible mouths with cruel teeths! > Some are seen sticking in the gaps between the teeth, with their > heads crushed! .... > A philosophy that comprehends the totality without fear or favor and > is even true to its mission of seeking Truth, cannot afford to ignore > the DESTRUCTIVE-aspect in nature. No creation is possible without > being preceded by the process of destruction of its own existence as > the raw material from which the created is produced. On the face of > the Universe also, wherever there is " existence " it is nothing but a > repetition of constant change and change can be interpreted either in > terms of constant-creation with regard to the MADE-PRODUCTS, or as a > process of constant-destruction with regard to the RAW-MATERIAL that > changed. > > Thus, we see that in Hinduism, the daring Masters of the Aryan fold, > while extolling the beauty of the Reality, indulged themselves in > viewing It not only as the Omniscient-Creator, or as the Omnipotent- > Sustainer, but also as the All-powerful-Devourer of all names and > forms. This may look dreadful to those creeds that have not yet come > to watch and analyze Life in its totality. Shri Ram Chandranji, This is a beautiful explanation. Thanks for the translation. I always feel that this section of BG is very similar to the prayer to Lord Rudra, that is chanted in Shiva temples. Here is the translation of some of the verses of namakam. This is from Dr. Abinash Chandra Bose's book " Hymns from the Vedas " . The Rishi is Parameshthi, with various metres. ##namaste rudra manyava ... Homage, Rudra, to thy wrath and thy arrow, and homage to thy arms. [1] ##yaa ya ishu shiva tama Look on us, Rudra, kind One, with that form of thine which is beneficent, that form of thine, O Rover on the Mountain, which is most blissful. [2] ##yamishum girishantha haste bibharshastave The arrow, O Rover on the Mountain, that thou holdest in thy hand to shoot, make it beneficent for us, Mountain Lord, destroy not man or a moving thing. [3] ##shivena vachasa tva girishacha vadamasi Mountain Lord, we speak to thee with blissful words so that all that is moving and living may, free from disease, have happiness of heart. [4] ##adhya vocha dadhi vakta prathamo daivyo bhishak He has spoken in defense of us, the advocate, the first Divine Physician. Subdue all the serpents and send away the Yatudhanis down below. [5] We could compare the word physician bhishak with Lord Dakshinamurthy who is none other than doctor to the disease of worldliness. ##bhishaje bhava roginam It is also interesting to compare the word Yatudhanis with Dhritarastris, If I am allowed to use such a term, to stand for the sons of Dhritarastra. .... ## avatathya dhanustva sahasraksha sateshudhe Having unbent thy bow, and dulled the points of thy arrows, thou, thousand eyed, hundred quivered, be benevolent and gracious to us. [13] .... .... .... ##maano mahantamuta maano arbhakam maana ukshantam Slay not, O Rudra, either the great or the small, either the growing or the fully grown, slay not either a father or a mother, not, Rudra, do thou injure our own dear body. [13] ##maana stoke tanaye maana ayushi ... Injure not either our sons or our grandsons, or our own life or our cattle, or our horses; and slay not out heroes when they are filled with wrath. We shall with oblations ever call on thee. [14] .... ## namah shabhave cha mayobhavecha Homage to him who brings bliss and delight, ##namah shankarayacha mayaskaraayacha to him who bestows grace and gladness, ##namah shivayacha shivatharayacha homage to the benevolent One, to him who is ever more and more benign. == Of course, here is the famous trayambakam verse Rishi: Vasistha ##trayambakam yajamahe To Trayambaka our offerings: to the fragrance-bearer, the increaser of nourishment: May he release me, like the cucumber from its stem, from mortal life, not from immortality Dr. Bose aptly titles Rudram by " Prayer for averting Death " . If he is the one who saves us from death by ignorance, what is the difference if he is called Krishna or Shiva? Verses 14-15 from Isha upanishad immediately come into mind. ##vinashene mruthyum tirthva sambhutva mrutha mashnute He who knows that both the unmanifested prakriti and the manifested Hiranyagarbha should be worshipped together, overcomes death by the worship of Hiranyagarbha and obtains immortality through devotion to prakriti. [isha.14] ##hiranmayena paatrena satyasa peehitam mukham The door of the Truth is covered by a golden disc. Open it, O Nourisher! Remove it so that I who have been worshipping the Truth may behold It. [isha. 15] [This translation is by Swami Nikhilananda.] Regards, Ramakrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Namaste Sri Ramakrishna: The explanations are provided by Swami Chinmayanandaji in " Holy Gita, " a publication from Chinmaya Mission. Swamiji's video presentation of entire Gita in DVDs are also available at Chinmaya Mission Publications. He was one of the best exponents of Gita through discourses in recent times. Your point in regarding the description in Bhagavad Gita is quite accurate and there are parallel descriptions in both Siva and Vishnu Puranas. The entire Visvarupadarshna is to illustrate that there is only Intelligence that controls everything that happens in the world. We are doers only in appearance and this what Lord Krishna dramatizes to Arjuna through chapters 9, 10 and 11. In Gita, Lord Krishna himself declares that he is the Brahma (creator), the Vishnu (the protector) and the RudraShiva (annihilator). Arjuna couldn't take it any more of what he has seen and he pleads to Lord Krishna to get back to His original form. With my warmest regards, Ram Chandran advaitin , " uramakrsna " <ramakrsn wrote: > > > This is a beautiful explanation. Thanks for the translation. > > I always feel that this section of BG is very similar > to the prayer to Lord Rudra, that is chanted in Shiva temples. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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