What did Shankara really teach

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Dennis Wrote:

A very clear explanation of the situation and I was with you all the way

up to

the last sentence. Do you not mean ⤽The highest form of non-apprehension

is

that of realisation where there is non-apprehension of *non-duality*? (Or

am I

getting my double negatives mixed up?)

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

Dennis

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Hi Dennis,

That would be non-apprehension of duality I think you mean

however I think diversity is better because it is a rawer immediate

sensory input. Can I put to you the seeming paradox that one might

simultaneously have an apprehension of diversity or multiple sensory input

and at the same time the non-apprehension of diversity?

 

Best Wishes,

Michael.

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advaitin , " Madathil Rajendran Nair "

<madathilnair wrote:

>

a

> jnAni's 'perception' (I don't know if this word is admissible with

> reference to a jnAni.) should be entirely different.

>

> Now, if 'perception proves the unity of being for a jnAni', then we

> are perhaps admitting that he is perceiving (like all of us?) and

> also perceiving the same thing all the time. That is pedestrian.

> Another explanation, for which I would definitely vote (in my current

> stage), is that the jnAni *knows* that he is perception and also the

> things perceived. I can't explain this latter view in adequate

> words.

 

Namaste,

 

This is how Vivekachudamani describes the jnani:

 

brahmAkAratayA sadA sthitatayA nirmuktabAhyArthadhI\-

ranyAveditabhogyabhogakalano nidrAluvadbAlavat.h .

svapnAlokitalokavajjagadidaM pashyankvachillabdhadhI\-

rAste kashchidanantapuNyaphalabhugdhanyaH sa mAnyo bhuvi ||426||

 

" Freed from awareness of any external object by reason of his ever

being Brahman, consuming only what is needed for bodily sustenance

proffered to him by others like one in sleep or like a child, looking

at this world when he comes to external sight like one seen in adream,

remains the blessed one enjoying infinite merit. He is to be honored on

earth. "

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

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advaitin , " Sunder Hattangadi " <sunderh wrote:

 

> Namaste,

>

> Perhaps better (?) than VP is Shankara Bhashya on Gita 2:16 -

>

> nAsato vidyate bhAvo nAbhAvo vidyate sataH ...............

>

> [There is never any Being of the Unreal, and never any Non-Being of the

> Real...........]

 

Dear Sunder-ji,

 

It is better to dive deep into the heart of reality than breaking

one's head with the so called epistemology of advaita, et al, as

explained in the VP.

 

Best Regards,

 

Br. Vinayaka.

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advaitin , " Vinayaka " <vinayaka_ns wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sunder-ji,

>

> It is better to dive deep into the heart of reality than breaking

> one's head with the so called epistemology of advaita, et al, as

> explained in the VP.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Br. Vinayaka.

>

 

 

Namaste Br. Vinayaka,

 

I agree. The redeeming clause is as Pushpandanta put it in

Shiva-Mahimna Stotra:

 

trayI sAN^khyaM yogaH pashupatimataM vaiShNavamiti

prabhinne prasthAne paramidamadaH paThyamiti cha |

ruchInAM vaichitryAdRRijukuTila nAnApathajuShAM

nRRiNAmeko gamyastvamasi payasAmarNava iva || 7 ||

 

 

" The different practices based on the three Vedas, SaMkhya, Yoga,

Pashupata-mata, VaishhNava-mata etc . are but different paths (to

reach to the Greatest Truth) and people on account of their different

aptitude choose from them whatever they think best and deserved to be

accepted . But as the sea is the final resting place for all types of

streams , You are the only reaching place for all people whichever

path,straight or zigzag, they may accept . (7) "

 

[ http://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_shiva/shivamahi.itx ]

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder