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advaitin , " fewtch " <core101 wrote:

>

> This has probably been covered, but one " weakness " I find in

Vedanta

> (not a complaint, just speculative observation): Why introduce neti-

> neti - probably the handiest tool in the box - then go on to assert

so

> many things such as the Absolute Reality, the Self, the Supreme,

> Brahman, etc.?

>

> Sometimes I think Vedanta goes a little too far in asserting, but

> Buddhism negates a bit too much. Perhaps it's typical of human

> history - drift toward the polar ends of the spectrum seems

> inevitable :-).

>

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PraNams

It is not weekness in Vedanta - it is in our weakness

in identifying all the time with, I am this, I am

this, which excludes that, where that includes the

Vedanta that you find has weakness. Inclusions and

exclusions is the fundamental problem of our egos. As

long as it is there Vedanta keep screeming at us that

we are not this nor that but inclusive of all this and

that and yet beyond and not exclusion of everything as

suunyavaada.

 

Some of this was covered in Analysis of the Mind -5

posted few days back.

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

 

--- fewtch <core101 wrote:

 

> This has probably been covered, but one " weakness " I

> find in Vedanta

> (not a complaint, just speculative observation): Why

> introduce neti-

> neti - probably the handiest tool in the box - then

> go on to assert so

> many things such as the Absolute Reality, the Self,

> the Supreme,

> Brahman, etc.?

>

> Sometimes I think Vedanta goes a little too far in

> asserting, but

> Buddhism negates a bit too much. Perhaps it's

> typical of human

> history - drift toward the polar ends of the

> spectrum seems

> inevitable :-).

>

>

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advaitin , kuntimaddi sadananda

<kuntimaddisada wrote:

>

> PraNams

> It is not weekness in Vedanta - it is in our weakness

> in identifying all the time with, I am this, I am

> this,

 

Agreed - but doesn't it encourage to identify " I am Brahman? "

Brahman is just a concept to the seeker unless/until realized, so why

did Shankaracharya emphasize this? Substitute identification with a

different concept instead of " me? " It's a little bit puzzling from

here.

 

> which excludes that, where that includes the

> Vedanta that you find has weakness.

 

Not a true weakness, just a kind of non-strong-point I guess.

 

> Hari Om!

> Sadananda

 

Namaste, brother...

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Mr Fewtch - PraNAms.

 

Sir - I suggest that you first study Vedanta before

making wild statements about Vedanta. Who said Brahman

is a concept. Brahman means infiniteness. How infinite

can can be conceptualized. Brahman means

consciousness. If you conceptualize Brahman, it

becomes non-Brahman. Can you conceptualize yourself?

Are you concept or an idea are a fact?

 

I suggest that you first study Vedanta properly before

you can find faults with it or weaknesses in it.

 

Now let me ask you what is the purpose of your joining

this list. To learn or to make your wild statements

about Vedanta without understanding it?

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

 

--- fewtch <core101 wrote:

 

> advaitin , kuntimaddi

> sadananda

> <kuntimaddisada wrote:

> >

> > PraNams

> > It is not weekness in Vedanta - it is in our

> weakness

> > in identifying all the time with, I am this, I am

> > this,

>

> Agreed - but doesn't it encourage to identify " I am

> Brahman? "

> Brahman is just a concept to the seeker unless/until

> realized, so why

> did Shankaracharya emphasize this? Substitute

> identification with a

> different concept instead of " me? " It's a little

> bit puzzling from

> here.

>

> > which excludes that, where that includes the

> > Vedanta that you find has weakness.

>

> Not a true weakness, just a kind of non-strong-point

> I guess.

>

> > Hari Om!

> > Sadananda

>

> Namaste, brother...

>

>

>

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advaitin , kuntimaddi sadananda

<kuntimaddisada wrote:

>

> Mr Fewtch - PraNAms.

>

> Sir - I suggest that you first study Vedanta before

> making wild statements about Vedanta. Who said Brahman

> is a concept.

 

Sri Sadananda, all words are concepts.

 

> Brahman means infiniteness.

 

Words that have meaning are concepts. Is this not clear? The map

isn't the territory. That's what I was referring to in the last msg

you responded to.

 

If there's a cup on my desk, it's clear. Truth lies in clarity,

words represent mind-monkey screeching -- particularly the broad base

of assumptions based on the ego-momentum. For example, I'm told

there's such thing as " existence, " and I should believe it

because " You know what it means, you know. "

 

All falsehood is based on assumption and taking things for granted.

I'm not accusing you of it, just noting. If one is Realized, they

are one with Brahman and don't have to keep thinking about it. But

prior, it's a word given some arbitrary meaning.

 

Namaste and Peace...

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