Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Namaste: With this post, we conclude the Chapter 11 Satsangh and resume chapter 12 from Gokulashtami. Thanks for your support and cooperation, With my warmest regards, Ram Chandran ============================ Chapter 11 summary by Swami Dayananda Saraswati In the last verse of the tenth chapter Bhagavan said, " I remain with one part of me pervading the entire universe, ekamsena aham stithah " . On the basis of this there is a new request by Arjuna. When Bhagavan says, " I remain in the form of this entire world, " naturally Arjuna wonders whether this is literally so. He has heard about what happened when Yasoda asked Krishna to open his mouth upon finding him eating mud. She saw within the mouth of Krishna the child, the entire jagat. Now Arjuna wants to know if he can see the entire cosmic form, visvarupa, within the form of Krishna who is standing in front of him. To understand this cosmic form properly we should understand Isvara's form. As we have seen, Isvara can be viewed from different standpoints. The essential nature is caitanyam brahma, the truth of Isvara and of the jiva. The jiva's essential svarupa is saccidanandam advayam brahma and the svarupa of Isvara is the same Brahman. This is one level of appreciation of Isvara. Then there is another, lsvara as the same Brahman conditioned by maya, the one who is the jagat karanam. Definitely pure limitless awareness, Brahman, cannot be jagat karanam unless there is some other power available for that Brahman. As a jiva looking at this universe, I naturally seek the cause. Sruti reveals that the cause is Brahman, not pure Brahman but Brahman with a certain power. In order for Brahman as Isvara to have the status of creator of everything, omniscience and appropriate power are necessary. Appropriate power means a power in keeping with the nature of the jagat. Whatever is the order of reality of the world that is the reality of the power that creates it? When we analyze this creation, we find it is mithya and therefore, there must be a mithya power which has created it. That power is called maya. As the mithya creation by definition has no independent existence, adhisthana ananyatvam, its cause, maya also fulfills this definition, being not independent of Brahman. Since I see a jagat here, Brahman seemingly conditioned by maya is looked upon as jagat karanam. How do we know? The pramana for it is only sruti. That Brahman is the cause of creation is revealed by the Sastra. And it also reveals that you are that satyam jnanam anantam brahma. I can have an immediate appreciation, aparoksa-jnanam, of this. Then the problem is to account for the world. For the creation of this world, there must be an inherent power which has the same degree of reality as the jagat. That Brahman gains the status of jagat-karanam through an inherent power maya, is also known for certain only through sastra though the existence of a maya power can also be accepted by a supporting inference. Therefore, the same caitanyam which is the common basis for Isvara and the jiva must have maya to make it the cause for the creation. In so many words the sruti says " May one know that maya is the material cause. " mayam tu prakrtim vidyat mayinam tu mahesvaram (Shvetshvatara Upanishad). I find this jagat is mithya and for that, there must be a mithya-karanam. This is anumanam, inference. It helps us to assimilate what sruti says. Thus we have two forms of Isvara; one is suddha-caitanyam pure, limitless awareness, the second, maya-avacclnna-caitanyam. Is there a third? If caitanya is the svarupa of Isvara, that svarupa is also available here as a jiva. Awareness obtaining in your antahkarana, in other words conditioned by your antahkarana, is called jiva. Therefore antahkarana-avaccinna-caitanyam is another form of isvara. Caitanya conditioned by the antahkarana is an individual knower, pramata etc. This is another rupam. We also have avataras like Rama, Krishna, etc. Whether they existed or not, the concept of Isvara assuming a particular form is what we call avatara. Krishna, Rama etc are all Isvara. Without the form of Krishna being a jiva. It is a special form assumed by Isvara as a result of the prayers of many people asking for action to be taken in a particular situation. We saw in the fourth chapter that in response to this, Isvara himself, through his own maya assumes a form suitable for the occasion. That is the avatara, another form of Isvara. Then we have visvarupam, Isvara from the standpoint of the physical universe. If you look upon this entire creation as the form, the body of Isvara, we have what we call Virat caitanya in the form of cosmos, called the cosmic person. How do you know that Isvara is in the form of Virat? You see the jagat directly. It is known to you immediately, pratyaksa. But that it is Isvara is not known because though the jagat is pratyaksa, Isvara is not. So that the jagat is Isvara has to be understood only from the Sastra. Because of the appreciation of the cause, karanam, being both efficient and material, nimitta and upadana with maya, you understand that this jagat, which is pratyaksa, is the form of Isvara. Here Arjuna wants to see the cosmic form. Because Bhagavan said at the end of the last chapter, " Pervading the entire universe with one pada I remain, " Arjuna wants to see that form of Isvara, the cosmic from. When the cosmos is right there in front of him, why should he want to see the cosmic form? What he means is that he wants to see Isvara in the form of all that is at one time. Normally you see one thing at one place and time. That is not the cosmic form. You are limited by your own capacities for perception so all you see are limited entities. Some of them are seen wrongly like the blue sky which is an illusion. And anything that is seen is seen only partially. " When you see the front of it, you do not see the back. And what is out of sight is out of mind. That means you only see one thing at a time. Where is the possibility of seeing the cosmos? Arjuna, like a child, now wants to know the entire cosmic form. He wants to know whether in one form he can see what is behind, what is in front, what is on the left, what is on the right, and what is beyond the sky, all that is in heaven. It is the desire of a child, really speaking. Arjuna thought, " Why not see this? " For which, of course, Arjuna's eyes are not adequate. Since it is visual perception, he must be given a different type of eye, divya-caksus. Perhaps it is some sort of inner eye but whatever it is, it is through Isvara's maya alone. And Krishna reveals this cosmic form to him. We can take it as something that happened or simply as a presentation of the subject matter showing that nothing is away from Isvara. Virat means vivid ham rajate, the one who appears in varieties of forms. That single form which includes all forms is called the cosmic form, visvarupa. It establishes that nothing is outside Isvara and upon appreciating that, you discover in yourself a devotion to Isvara, the topic of the next chapter, bhakti-yoga. Because of the appreciation of this cosmic form you can understand that Bhagavan is in charge of everything. This does not mean you do not take responsibility for what you do, what you are. In fact the law of karma helps you take responsibility for your lot, your parentage etc. and happily accept it not passing blame to anybody. You accept responsibility for what you are because of past deeds. Other forces might have contributed to what you are, but at the same time you understand that you have a free will. You can add to or reorganize yourself, be an emotionally fragile person or a person who refuses to be fragile. All this is in your hands. At the same time, as an individual jiva, you are not in total control. This appreciation of the cosmic form does create a reverence for Isvara. It is described very beautifully and poetically here creating a word picture that brings all the heavens down within your perception. All the heavens and the people therein in one huge - huge is not the word - one cosmic form. It includes everything. In spite of that, Arjuna somehow misunderstood and saw himself as an individual separate from the whole. This we understand because he was frightened. Seeing the form, he found the wheel of time destroying everybody. In the description there is a continuous dissolution, samhara, and evolution, srsti, going on. If you see all this it is something like seeing the microscopic changes that take place in your own body as it ages. You will be frightened at all that takes place. This is what happened to Arjuna. When he saw this cosmic form, he found all the people within the jaws of death because Death itself is Bhagavan. They were all being masticated in the jaws of death, the process of change. He found them sticking within the grip of this big mouth. There he saw the battlefield, his own people and all the people he thought were outside of him. All of them he found within one form. Nothing was outside. But somehow Ajuna managed to see himself separate from the cosmic form and got frightened. To say, " I am this cosmic form, " you have to come from the standpoint of saccidanandatma. Otherwise it becomes purely magic as it was for Arjuna. This magical vision of the cosmic person was created purely by the grace of Krishna. After seeing this he said, " Bhagavan, I am really frightened so please assume your old form. " As he requested, Krishna comes back to the smiling, easily manageable form that he was. Otherwise how will you manage this Krishna? Whom will you address? What will you call him? So he came back to the particular form that Arjuna and others were used to. This is the sum and substance of the eleventh chapter. Sankara introduces it saying the glories of Bhagavan have been told. Though only a few of them were mentioned, the list was complete enough to appreciate the magnitude of Bhagavan's glory. Arjuna's attention was caught by Krishna saying, " One quarter of me pervades the entire world. " If the whole world is nothing but a quarter of Isvara three quarters remain hidden. This has to be understood. As only the tip of an ice-berg is visible while the rest is under water, so too here, only this much is visible; the part that is not visible is the infinite nature of alma which is in the buddhi as aham. You have to understand that Arjuna wanted to visually see the cosmic form. You can see through words but Arjuna wanted to see with his own eyes. 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Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Dear Shri Ram-Chandran-ji Namaskarams. Thank you so muc for this wonderful effort and satsangha. Swami Dayananda-ji's masterfly exposition of one of the most beautiful chapters in the Gita was indeed a treat to the eyes - each time you read Swamiji's words or listen to him, your understanding grows another layer. I especially liked the penultimate post where-in he explains what Bhagwan Shankara Himself singles out as the very essence of the Gita. For the benefit of everyone (and esp myself), I reproduce some key excerpts: *** Your devotion to the Lord grows as you understand who he is until you find that there is nothing outside. This is ananya-bhakti. If that is your devotion, the whole world is Bhagavan. *** A real cosmic vision is possible only through jnanam. It has to include the observer or it is not complete; it is not cosmic. *** If you understand that there is Brahman who is infinite and the cause of creation, it is indirect knowledge, paroksa jnanam. But if you know, " I am the cause, " it is direct knowledge, aparoksa-jnanam. That step is a very big step and is what they call darsanam, vision. It is seeing it in reality, tattvena, because it is a knowledge which includes the person who sees. *** How can I perform an action for the sake of Isvara? Understanding dharma as Bhagavan's creation you adjust your behavior to conform with dharma. *** Mat-paramah means for him the Lord is the most important. Here the whole purpose of performing action for Isvara is to become one with Isvara, the parama gatih. This is the ultimate end reaching which there is no other end wished for or possible. *** He is madbhakta. With his whole heart and soul he is devoted to the Lord. Whatever he does, he does with great enthusiasm. It is natural because one is always enthusiastic about what one loves. It shows that his commitment is complete. *** If you have sanga, several other problems follow in its wake; The entire life gets consumed in pleasing people. So we decide to understand the whole thing more fundamentally. We appreciate the nature of the mind and develop an awareness of what detachment is. With that awareness we can enjoy relationships instead of having them be problematic. In fact they help us to grow. As long as we take, there is dependence. Without dependence you can give freely of your affectionrlove, and sympathy. *** One who has all these characteristics becomes one with " mematneti. " I " am the ultimate, the only end for him. Suppose you have become one with Bhagavan, then what will you do? What can you not do? You are free; you are full. There is no isolation. This is the most desirable teaching. *** Fantastic! Humble pranams Hari OM Shri Gurubhyoh namah Shyam advaitin , " Ram Chandran " <ramvchandran wrote: > > Namaste: > > With this post, we conclude the Chapter 11 Satsangh and resume > chapter 12 from Gokulashtami. > > Thanks for your support and cooperation, > > With my warmest regards, > > Ram Chandran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 advaitin , " shyam_md " <shyam_md wrote: >Dear Shyamji, Many thanks and appreciation for your summary of Swami Dayanandaji's Chapter 11 lecture...please do post for other chapters too. The Gita is such a perennial river that each time we take a sip of a few drops, we get further nourishment....What a bliss!! ---N K Srinivasan > Dear Shri Ram-Chandran-ji > Namaskarams. > Thank you so muc for this wonderful effort and satsangha. > Swami Dayananda-ji's masterfly exposition of one of the most beautiful > chapters in the Gita was indeed a treat to the eyes - each time you > read Swamiji's words or listen to him, your understanding grows > another layer. > I especially liked the penultimate post where-in he explains what > Bhagwan Shankara Himself singles out as the very essence of the Gita. > For the benefit of everyone (and esp myself), I reproduce some key > excerpts: > > *** > Your devotion to the Lord grows as you understand who he is until you > find that there is nothing outside. This is ananya-bhakti. If that is > your devotion, the whole world is Bhagavan. > *** > A real cosmic vision is possible only through jnanam. It has to > include the observer or it is not complete; it is not cosmic. > *** > If you understand that there is Brahman who is infinite and the cause > of creation, it is indirect knowledge, paroksa jnanam. But if you > know, " I am the cause, " it is direct knowledge, aparoksa-jnanam. That > step is a very big step and is what they call darsanam, vision. It is > seeing it in reality, tattvena, because it is a knowledge which > includes the person who sees. > *** > How can I perform an action for the sake of Isvara? Understanding > dharma as Bhagavan's creation you adjust your behavior to conform with > dharma. > *** > Mat-paramah means for him the Lord is the most important. Here the > whole purpose of performing action for Isvara is to become one with > Isvara, the parama gatih. This is the ultimate end reaching which > there is no other end wished for or possible. > *** > He is madbhakta. With his whole heart and soul he is devoted to the > Lord. Whatever he does, he does with great enthusiasm. It is natural > because one is always enthusiastic about what one loves. It shows that > his commitment is complete. > *** > If you have sanga, several other problems follow in its wake; The > entire life gets consumed in pleasing people. So we decide to > understand the whole thing more fundamentally. We appreciate the > nature of the mind and develop an awareness of what detachment is. > With that awareness we can enjoy relationships instead of having them > be problematic. In fact they help us to grow. As long as we take, > there is dependence. Without dependence you can give freely of your > affectionrlove, and sympathy. > *** > One who has all these characteristics becomes one with " mematneti. " I " > am the ultimate, the only end for him. Suppose you have become one > with Bhagavan, then what will you do? What can you not do? You are > free; you are full. There is no isolation. This is the most desirable > teaching. > *** > > Fantastic! > > Humble pranams > Hari OM > Shri Gurubhyoh namah > Shyam > > > > > advaitin , " Ram Chandran " <ramvchandran@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste: > > > > With this post, we conclude the Chapter 11 Satsangh and resume > > chapter 12 from Gokulashtami. > > > > Thanks for your support and cooperation, > > > > With my warmest regards, > > > > Ram Chandran > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 advaitin , " Ram Chandran " <ramvchandran wrote: > With this post, we conclude the Chapter 11 Satsangh and resume > chapter 12 from Gokulashtami. > > Thanks for your support and cooperation, > > With my warmest regards, > > Ram Chandran praNAms Shri Ram Chandranji, Thanks a lot for conducting this Satsangh. I learnt a lot about Gita by reading the messages that you (and other elders of the group) posted. The answers that you and other elders gave to my questions -- however simple the questions were -- enhanced my understanding. Thank you again and praNAms again, My prostations to Lord Shri Krishna, who was benevolent to show His cosmic form, to Arjuna because he could see it, to Sanjaya who could describe it and to Maharshi Vyasa who saved it for posterity. Hari Om! Ramakrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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