Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Namaste, Durgaji said, <<I don't think these topics are outside the scope of Vedanta. >>> To me these are the main topics of Vedanta from which we can benefit. I think we should have more discussions on these matters. I think most of the people do not know even what is Moksha, etc., but they do know they have problems, not necessarily external like money, health, name/fame etc. and they do want to manage/avoid them in order that they can have a peaceful life. HARI OM R. S. Mani Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Emotional pain. How do we deal with it? First let us realize that any pain is always difficult to deal with - first it is very personal and no one other than the one who is feeling can know the intensity of that pain and the difficulty in dealing with it. It is easy for me to advise others to objectify the pain since you are not the pain and you are not in pain - If pain belongs to you, it will never leave you. You do not have pain when you go to deep-sleep (assuming that your could with all that pain!). You can welcome the pain and in the very welcoming you are ready to face it to the degree that it is no more painful. - Very good advice - of course as long as it is the others that are having pain. What should I do when I am having intense pain, anger, frustrations, etc? Not to have it is a useless advice since I already have it. Welcome the pain is good but that requires me standing apart and welcoming with full heart. But if I can stand apart to welcome it, I have already solved the problem since I am already disassociated myself from the pain. Here is the best approach for those who are already in pain. For those who are not in pain, this is only an academic discussion. Just go to the Lord and cry your heart out - The very crying and surrendering to the Lord decreases the intensity of the pain. Second recognize that He is there with you all the time to suffer along with you the pain. Once you have that confidence that you are not alone, then of course all other suggestions like welcoming it etc will apply. Hence pray first thing in the morning - pray last thing in the night - recognizing that He is there with you - remembering the Lord act on - The life will be less painful. Looking back you feel that it gave you another opportunity to think of the Lord - as Kunti requests Lord Krishna to give them as many painful things as he can since that way they will remember him all the time. Hence every pain is a step towards Him. Actually you have to be thankful that whatever Prarabda that one has to go through is getting over and you are getting cleansed because of it - provided of course you THINK OF HIM and turn your attention to higher. With Him present all pain will become bearable and becomes an opportunity to be with Him. Hari Om! Sadananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Sada-ji: I love your wonderful and spontaneous writing. If possible, over the summer, I will put a few more of such pieces on the HS community site/blog. The human condition inherently involves pain and suffering. For many, this is what makes them seek the mystery of life. Persistent suffering and pain can lead to sadness and hopelessness. The ancient sages understood the umbrella of protection needed by seekers and hence spoke of the importance of satsang, the company of good people in ones life. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Hasha advaitin , kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada wrote: > > > Emotional pain. How do we deal with it? > > First let us realize that any pain is always difficult to deal with - first it > is very personal and no one other than the one who is feeling can know the > intensity of that pain and the difficulty in dealing with it. It is easy for me > to advise others to objectify the pain since you are not the pain and you are > not in pain - If pain belongs to you, it will never leave you. You do not have > pain when you go to deep-sleep (assuming that your could with all that pain!). > You can welcome the pain and in the very welcoming you are ready to face it to > the degree that it is no more painful. - Very good advice - of course as long > as it is the others that are having pain. > > What should I do when I am having intense pain, anger, frustrations, etc? Not > to have it is a useless advice since I already have it. Welcome the pain is > good but that requires me standing apart and welcoming with full heart. But if > I can stand apart to welcome it, I have already solved the problem since I am > already disassociated myself from the pain. > > Here is the best approach for those who are already in pain. For those who are > not in pain, this is only an academic discussion. > > Just go to the Lord and cry your heart out - The very crying and surrendering > to the Lord decreases the intensity of the pain. > > Second recognize that He is there with you all the time to suffer along with > you the pain. Once you have that confidence that you are not alone, then of > course all other suggestions like welcoming it etc will apply. > > Hence pray first thing in the morning - pray last thing in the night - > recognizing that He is there with you - remembering the Lord act on - The life > will be less painful. Looking back you feel that it gave you another > opportunity to think of the Lord - as Kunti requests Lord Krishna to give them > as many painful things as he can since that way they will remember him all the > time. > > Hence every pain is a step towards Him. Actually you have to be thankful that > whatever Prarabda that one has to go through is getting over and you are > getting cleansed because of it - provided of course you THINK OF HIM and turn > your attention to higher. > > With Him present all pain will become bearable and becomes an opportunity to be > with Him. > > > Hari Om! > Sadananda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Dear sriniwasji Please note our changed email It is now slimaye Nirmala Limaye. - Srinivas Nagulapalli advaitin Friday, March 21, 2008 3:00 PM Re: Emotional Pain advaitin , " shyam_md " <shyam_md wrote: > > Pranams, > A question was posed to me on my blog, about how one deals with > emotional hurt, which prompted me to pen some thoughts about > " Emotional Pain " . > > http://poornamadam.blogspot.com/2008/03/hurt-is-form-of-emotional- pain.html Hari OM! Beautiful and reflective writeup on " emotional pain " . Even at physical level, why do we cut a finger while cutting onions? Cutting finger was neither the intention nor the goal. How come finger got cut when it was only about onion-cutting? Simply, lack of alertness. So too, it seems for emotional pain. Nothing wrong with the cutting knife, but the wielding hand and the guiding mind alone need alertness and vigilance. Nothing wrong with the world outside, but our interaction with it causes pain or joy. All so called accidents are merely those whose causes are ignored or not seen clearly by lack of alertness. How to stay alert then? Watching both inside and outside. Merely watching outside and ignoring our actions,words and thoughts is like cutting onion ignoring where holding fingers are resting. Merely watching within, our own actions, words, thoughts but ignoring outside is like watching only hand fingers, but ignoring where onion is! What cutting can that do! Skillful in watching inside and outside - samatvam yoga ucyate. No wonder spirituality is compared to walking on razor's edge! - Hari OM -Srinivas Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release 3/19/2008 9:54 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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